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Francisco/BuyVM - question for you

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  • Hey @Francisco would a UK location be a possibility, or a pipe dream? :-)

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Luna location plz.

    Mars location by 2025 plz.

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @Nekki said:
    BuyVMs ‘secret sauce’ is never having stock when you need it, make it even more desirable.

    because they don't oversell

    No, it's a sales tactic. Making your product scarce can reduce churn. Overselling has nothing to do with it.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited October 2021

    @jackb said:

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @Nekki said:
    BuyVMs ‘secret sauce’ is never having stock when you need it, make it even more desirable.

    because they don't oversell

    No, it's a sales tactic. Making your product scarce can reduce churn. Overselling has nothing to do with it.

    somehow this sales “tactic” is not working for (or used by) other VPS providers

  • @Nekki said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Nekki said:

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @Nekki said:
    BuyVMs ‘secret sauce’ is never having stock when you need it, make it even more desirable.

    because they don't oversell

    Yeah, that’s the public explanation…

    Any reasoning for your assertion….
    please exclude jealousy

    What a humourless place this has become. Time to make myself scarce again.

    Google Translate doesn’t understand humour.

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  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2021

    @dev_vps said:
    somehow this sales “tactic” is not working for (or used by) other VPS providers

    The "double bandwidth" tactic wasn't used by other providers for months. Not uncommon to see some techniques in use in a small number of providers.

    There's a trade off to everything - being out of stock reduces churn, but increases the likelihood of someone going elsewhere as they can't buy from you. The double bandwidth thing gets more attention, both positive and negative.

  • @deank said:
    Luna location plz.

    Mars location by 2025 plz.

    I thought Luna location was covered by @yoursunny

  • @Pixels said:

    @deank said:
    Luna location plz.

    Mars location by 2025 plz.

    I thought Luna location was covered by @yoursunny

    Currently he is busy with his Antartica DC, maybe he will expand to Luna soon.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    We do have a host in Luna node?

    That lying bastard doesn't have servers on Luna. He should be banned.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @Pixels said:

    @deank said:
    Luna location plz.

    Mars location by 2025 plz.

    I thought Luna location was covered by @yoursunny

    Currently he is busy with his Antartica DC, maybe he will expand to Luna soon.

    This novelette predicts that we'll have a luna location someday:
    https://yoursunny.com/t/2021/1302.8/

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @jackb said:

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @Nekki said:
    BuyVMs ‘secret sauce’ is never having stock when you need it, make it even more desirable.

    because they don't oversell

    No, it's a sales tactic. Making your product scarce can reduce churn. Overselling has nothing to do with it.

    Not sure how it's a sales tactic when I'm dropping nodes pretty damn often :) We sent 2 crates of servers to LUX (and gave birth to a new company meme) within 3 months of each other.

    Vegas has had a steady stream of new nodes every month this year and NY is maxed out and requires we order more racks.

    Miami went live in June and we'll probably send more once we market it more.

    As for new locations, i've been floating the idea of Chicago but maybe it's too clogged of a location to join in. Australia will probably never happen. UK...maybe? Would have to study the market more and see how we'd do.

    Right now we're focused on the ICANN accreditation for the new brand. Task #1 is buying the domain off this squatter so we'll see how many 0's I gotta put on this bid. Bastards.

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:
    UK...maybe? Would have to study the market more and see how we'd do.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @NobodyInteresting said:

    @Francisco said:
    UK...maybe? Would have to study the market more and see how we'd do.

    All I can think about is her... SWEET FRAN.

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco said: Right now we're focused on the ICANN accreditation for the new brand.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited October 2021

    @jackb said:

    @dev_vps said:
    somehow this sales “tactic” is not working for (or used by) other VPS providers

    The "double bandwidth" tactic wasn't used by other providers for months. Not uncommon to see some techniques in use in a small number of providers.

    There's a trade off to everything - being out of stock reduces churn, but increases the likelihood of someone going elsewhere as they can't buy from you. The double bandwidth thing gets more attention, both positive and negative.

    Double bandwidth promotion is actually a lot different from artificial “out of stock” promotion. Less than 10% VPS customers actually use more than 20% bandwidth.

    And, to be honest, artificial “out of stock” promotion is a bad idea.

    I have been seeing BuyVM out of stock for over two years now. The in stock appears end of month and around 7th month.

    BuyVM is actually in a “envious” state. Ask any VPS provider competitor.

  • Top four providers (in alphabetical order), in my opinion

    1. BuyVM
    2. HostHatch
    3. InceptionHosting
    4. RackNerd

    The fastest single core VPS performance
    HostCram (@shakib)

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  • There are very few provider who clearly list
    percentage core dedicated to the VPS

    HostHatch and BuyVM are pretty transparent that way. Some vendors confirm in the private message (their interpretation of fair usage)

    Integrity and Transparency are two most important aspects of quality, IMHO.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @0xbkt said:

    @Francisco said: Right now we're focused on the ICANN accreditation for the new brand.

    You rang? :) Yes, we're working to start selling domains, but not just reselling someone else.

    There's an opening in the market for it, especially with law of the land and all that.

    Francisco

  • VayVayKaVayVayKa Member
    edited October 2021

    @dev_vps said:
    percentage core dedicated to the VPS

    It's just a line that shouldn't be crossed 24/7. It remained the same even after migrating from Intel to Ryzen. Although Ryzen has more cores. Those Fran, with the same rented space, significantly increased the "scale of production".
    Nevertheless, I must admit the fact that VPS have become noticeably faster, for the same money for the client.

  • @Francisco said:

    @0xbkt said:

    @Francisco said: Right now we're focused on the ICANN accreditation for the new brand.

    You rang? :) Yes, we're working to start selling domains, but not just reselling someone else.

    There's an opening in the market for it, especially with law of the land and all that.

    Francisco

    The next Epik?

  • @Francisco said:

    @jackb said:

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @Nekki said:
    BuyVMs ‘secret sauce’ is never having stock when you need it, make it even more desirable.

    because they don't oversell

    No, it's a sales tactic. Making your product scarce can reduce churn. Overselling has nothing to do with it.

    Not sure how it's a sales tactic when I'm dropping nodes pretty damn often :) We sent 2 crates of servers to LUX (and gave birth to a new company meme) within 3 months of each other.

    Vegas has had a steady stream of new nodes every month this year and NY is maxed out and requires we order more racks.

    Miami went live in June and we'll probably send more once we market it more.

    As for new locations, i've been floating the idea of Chicago but maybe it's too clogged of a location to join in. Australia will probably never happen. UK...maybe? Would have to study the market more and see how we'd do.

    Right now we're focused on the ICANN accreditation for the new brand. Task #1 is buying the domain off this squatter so we'll see how many 0's I gotta put on this bid. Bastards.

    Francisco

    Chicago is very clogged, but it's clogged for a reason. I'm sure it would do well for you!

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran
    edited October 2021

    @rick2610 said: The next Epik?

    Franik™

    @Francisco said: As for new locations, i've been floating the idea of Chicago but maybe it's too clogged of a location to join in.

    What about other international locations, like somewhere in Asia-Pacific? There's already a lot of US locations... What value would a Chicago location add over the existing ones?

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  • A Chicago location would be great. I need to start monitoring the Discord more, I had no idea that all this is happening. And complaints about stock will always be the case, unless Fran finally decides to flood his racks with a year’s worth of supply, lol, that might just work for a few days

  • I heard Chicago might be next.

  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran

    Instead of Chicago, why not a more obscure location that you could somewhat normalize?

    Not many providers in Luxembourg, which makes it a unique location that many use now because BuyVM is there.

    I'd focus on seeking a location that is similar in that regards. Not super saturated, geographically unique and a place that is a bit more privacy friendly that would be better suited as a 5th location for anycast services.

    Just my $0.02

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @MannDude said:
    Instead of Chicago, why not a more obscure location that you could somewhat normalize?

    Not many providers in Luxembourg, which makes it a unique location that many use now because BuyVM is there.

    I'd focus on seeking a location that is similar in that regards. Not super saturated, geographically unique and a place that is a bit more privacy friendly that would be better suited as a 5th location for anycast services.

    Just my $0.02

    Honestly I was thinking about a Swiss location if we wanted 1 more EU.

    Push on the privacy side.

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @MannDude said:
    Instead of Chicago, why not a more obscure location that you could somewhat normalize?

    Not many providers in Luxembourg, which makes it a unique location that many use now because BuyVM is there.

    I'd focus on seeking a location that is similar in that regards. Not super saturated, geographically unique and a place that is a bit more privacy friendly that would be better suited as a 5th location for anycast services.

    Just my $0.02

    Honestly I was thinking about a Swiss location if we wanted 1 more EU.

    Push on the privacy side.

    Francisco

    South Africa has somewhat decent privacy & freedom of speech laws with somewhat of the infrastructure and would be totally unique with a niche.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Be more creative, Fran.

    Under sea, in middle of nowhere. Sea servers only bound by international laws.

    Southpole servers. Northpole servers by having a floating platform.

    Dick is the limitation.

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  • tinyweaseltinyweasel Member
    edited October 2021

    @Francisco kill the matrix/discord bridge(s) for the IRC. Those users are terrible. Just do it.

    Edit: oh, and the BuyVM circlejerk is well and alive. BuyVM is overpriced for what you're getting, anyway.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    South Africa has somewhat decent privacy & freedom of speech laws with somewhat of the infrastructure and would be totally unique with a niche.

    And batshit insanely overpriced.

    Francisco

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