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I'm not going to bring his name up again, so feel free to let this mini rant die out.
Yep, most of these hosts I'm checking are either hosted on cPanel servers that don't have a license or have expired 15 Day Trials.
well I guess it might be time to ban them from LET ...?
oh, wait. Nevermind.
Did they ever actually have a license? Maybe that was how they managed to keep unlimited reseller accounts, using cracked cpanel..
I think it is possible someone at cPanel found out about all of them and thus the hasty exit.
No idea, I am making a list now.
Do you see the Virmach Thread with
100k111k views? such irony.People are bashing against CC and still buying stuff from a reseller.
If you are against CC, then stop buying anything related to them, simple, then you can go bashing.
@Neoon they say consistency is a small-minded hobgoblin
I say doesn't matter, got virmach
They've been clouded by the irresistible deals
I came to the conclusion that these scams are originated with in ColoCrossing. It never being impossible for anyone to create 25+ fake accounts without LLC or any company registrations, using ColoCrossing for the hosting, leasing Dedicated Servers, buying bulk IPs, handling hardwares and network problems, handling DCMA notices inside their network. At least DCMA need a proper Know Your Customer sort of formalities, SCAM is originating inside ColoCrossing.
fuck that. Virmach is good stuff. And I'll bash CC until the cows come home.
This is AMERICA, dammit!
Here we go sirs, I must admit someone loves Linode over at CC.
One note all the cPanel servers that have expired all expired on the 6th Dec. So if anyone had any shared hosting accounts they wouldn't have been able to make a backup over the weekend/today.
Edit using better image upload.
And what will you do when CC fcks Virmach? Reseller is a subordinate to purveyor. Don't idolize your provider, don't imagine that they have a heart and will not sell you in a blink of an eye. If your gut says something is wrong - listen to it and stop. Ask your-self does Virmach will hold another coming year?
So what? There's no evidence that VirMach is owned by CC in any way. VirMach also explained at least once that they are in no way affiliated to CC except they are their customer.
There's nothing wrong for me to bash while I am one of their clients' client. Even then, VirMach does resell more than just CC.
Do you care about how good or bad the factories who produced those foods for restaurant? Most likely not. You will most likely only care about the end result aka how nice the food is.
Similarly, if a company like VirMach proved themselves to be great, why will you want to ruin their hard work just because you don't like their upstream?
Also some of the hosting sites shared the same host node for their VMs at Linode. Even more, evidence they are connected.
My point just was, that your or someone else his money goes indirect to ColoCrossing, the same company you/we are try to avoid because of the scams they are pulling off.
But, not every location is owned by CC they are using correct, especially on BF I saw only US locations, most of them Buffalo, NY => Colocrossing.
Yes, but its more delightfull if you go borderline.
I do, you don't?
upstream? what? They run servers in the datacenter, of colocrossing.
No doubt, that bad CC PR will damage virmach, collateral damage.
But that's not my goal, its a side affect.
Not familiar with that story. Have a link for me?
Dunno, I think it's pretty consistent with his public demeanor. He's always been loud about this sort of stuff, in this case that loudness just comes with a URL in an attempt to knock LEB/LET/CC off the throne.
Wait, so these companies were not tied to their own LLCs? They must be tied to something - either social security or tax ID. If not - I am sure the IRS would love to dig a bit deeper and collect.
That had been the excuse for refusing to upgrade.
But now, with Vbulletin dead, moving to another forum, like Xenforo, will require a fair amount of efforts which is something they'd rather not bother at this point, probably.
Laugh and move on, idgaf really
well - obviously my gut seems to be telling me something quite different about virmach.
So what now? Please advice!
Ok. Magic 8-ball says YES.
Now if it's okay with you, we maybe can get back to our focus here on CC and the alleged scams apparently facilitated by some presumed insiders there who may or may not be connected with @jbiloh and @CVPS_Chris and that whole shitpool puppet show ...
For God's sake! Companies can be registered in the Cayman Islands, on the homeless, to whom they gave $ 50. Such registration is more than enough for everything they did. I’m not saying that ColoCrossing didn’t participate, you just don’t have to think that the hosting company must be from the USA if it rents a server in Buffalo.
I was there when it happened.
At that time, I was in agreement with AntFish. Dagoon was indeed sig-spamming.
But I will say that the ban was undeserved.
As a professional troll to amateur troll I advice you to increase medicine dose and pray for the fast nigh.
So at some point, we should consider a class action suit against CC for promoting an affiliate program that's just a scheme to lock up annual deals, then shudder their affiliate(s). Has anyone heard anything from CC, or should we just keep assuming they're in on the scheme?
I'd say that CC is getting a fat commission from this.
I'd even say that the whole fiasco could be CC's own doing.
... estimate for size of the class?
... amount of damages?
I could be wrong, but I'm really not sure this would actually be all that interesting to most attorneys who can operate at the required level of competence
I am not a lawyer, but in bird law, the principle of caveat emptor vis-à-vis a fool's money is established precedent, to wit the Ninth Circuit ruling in Dix vs. Johnson inter alia @deank
tl;dr: #dicks
The people who got scammed are looking for the same package if not cheaper.
There is no hope for those and the term "lawsuit" is not something they are capable of since it costs dearly money.
They are happy with "It worked for some months, so I am content."
@teamacc - I guess we now know why we saw the steady price increases leading to black friday. It was all in a last pitched pump and dump effort to cash out as much as possible. No doubt they (the shithosts and CC) knew months in advance when they were going to close down the operation.
@jsgguy - still wish to defend the steady price increases of CC-backed hosts in prep for their post-BF deadpool extravaganza?
@Nick - were all of these hosts taking advantage of HVH's reseller program? Perhaps you'd like to comment on where all these hosts came from, how one person registered 20+ hosts with CC, how they secured LEB posts (while increasing prices when getting closer to their prescribed deadpool date), and how they were all able to vanish in the blink of an eye like nothing happened? Thanks mate.
@uptime @deank @iHavenoName there is no need for lawsuits, if this is an exit scam the authorities are to investigate it, the problem the people need to report it, it could be $5 as many say, but if you add the $5+$5+$5.....+$5, its not $5 anymore, multiply that by how many years this has been going on
even if there is no smoking gun, once the authorities will start to take interest, I am pretty sure the summer host business will vanish forever, the advantage of this exit scam is that it seems to be contained in this forum, if people start spreading the word, and complain to the media or the authorities instead of wasting their breath here, in time the authorities will notice it and will start to notice also that something is not right, and I am sure whoever is behind this will stop doing it
a good start would be also to contact the website developer of all the websites and to ask for an opinion on his work and if he knows what it was used for
this, in my opinion, is the only strategy to make this stop
I spot-checked a half-dozen of the list at WHMCS and they're all "authorized to be using WHMCS". Guessing that they won't be so authorized in a couple weeks then their monthly isn't renewed.