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Well good to know who to blame for the whole unlimited reseller thing.
Looks like cPanel is getting DDoS'd, went to check forums and they're offline - main site is moving very very slow as well.
I can't take the blame for how people abused selling the features/resources, etc...just the functionality of a reseller account was my idea. ;-)
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No, he is not. I am not aware Thru change the domain from centos web panel to control web panel. And as far as I know CWP doesn't offer hosting, they only offer support.
I am interested in @Francisco and @HostMantis response about this. Because I have A LOT OF CLIENT with them. Personally I don't really care what kind of control panel they use as long as it works, and have softaculous or some kind of auto installer.
I personally is a fan of vesta cp because of its simple interface. But their file manager suck, as in very bad.
@Francisco, did you already disable adding account? Because my API failed to add new account.
I didn't, are you getting an error?
We'll likely do a flat $1.50/year increase on shared, and resellers will get $0.10 charged per account. I may need to write a cron/etc to tally things and adjust billing for renewals, i'll have to see.
I'll most likely look at putting out DirectAdmin based nodes in the coming week or two. I had just provisioned new gear to get more cPanel plans up, but not at this pricing.
Francisco
anyone experience webuzo ?
for shared web hosting ?
Maybe give the option to the users? Original pricing if you use DA and $0.1/cP account if you stick on with cPanel
Possible. I'll see how Karen feels, but I think she's outright against cPanel.
Francisco
Let's all stand with Karen.
So, looking at the alternatives to the popular webhosts that absolutely swear by cPanel, how will this affect the ones with custom panels? Is there anything out there that we should be paying attention to after this goes into effect?
Well, this was inevitable. It's sort of about time there was some disruption in this space, but cPanel is the only solution out there I know of with a significant development/support team. Security is paramount in this shared envs and I wouldn't want to trust any old dev / custom panel / OSS Panel with customers data.
Dear all,
Oakley Capital required that, this is bad when they are monopoly. They want to reduce the presure Cpanel on Plesk and Everyone choose other alternatives.
Who give them the right for collect about our hosting account? That is confidential information. They want to have a law court.
Regards,
That was what I was thinking. "..and Anthony just wanted to get more into shared.."
Anyway, it's for the best, I guess. Now you can still more easily navigate to some alternative panel
ISPConfig is love ❤️
Give ISPConfig a roll
For what it's worth you atleast had cPanel account limits in place but I feel for you. I've got 2 reseller Accounts with you and right now only a total of ~4 cPanel accounts on them. As long as your resource limit allows (that is to say I don't run out of cpu/ram) , in the future, I'll try to put some more addon domains on my cPanel accounts and only create an extra cPanel account when I consider it really necessary
All the best!
But is it secure in love ?
The ones with custom panels are laughing today.
It is one of the oldest and most stable control panels that still gets updated today. The Forum is quite active (HowToForge), the owner and main dev Till is always happy to help and the multi-server feature is a nice one to have
It even has it's own "Softaculous" sorta, which comes with it for free (of course fewer apps but still..).
I prefer changing the control panel. My clients already prepaid for a year. Convincing them to change control panel is much easier than asking them to pay more.
I can easily convincing them as long as the site is working then that's the only thing that matters. My clients mostly school, and local business, so they don't do much tinkering on the control panel.
Inb4 Oakleycapital buys EIG
If you make an arrangement, state your price and take the money for a one year contract in advance - it would not look good rising prices. You took the money in advance for a whole year. That has its benefits, but things like this cPanel price change are the downsides and risks of such policy/contracts.
Same goes for cPanel change - if the hosting is sold as cPanel hosting.
On the other hand, the position cPanel put many hosts in is a risk of going bancrupt for those who sold many cPanel accounts on each server.
Definitely a good lesson for hosting providers and customers in terms of making long term offers/arrangements, giving large long term pay-in-advance discounts etc. Hosting providers that lead the price race to the bottom will probably be the one taking a largest hit with this.
And the customers, of course, through higher hosting prices, especially for reseller accounts.
I personally think it's reasonable to re-negotiate with the provider so the deal works for all the parties (sharing the price rise?). But I'd understand if a customer says "don't care, honor the deal". Would hosting providers cut your price if you have some unexpected expenses?
As much as we may not like them, I am really intrigued to know how this will effect bigger corps like EIG.
Site5, HostGator, all these big names that still today are offering Resellers with Unlimited Accounts... I think you could be looking at a big shake up in the industry and potential substantial loss in revenues here for cPanel no matter what.
This model simply does not work for the industry. Sure it works for WHMCS based on how many client accounts because you as the user of WHMCS have control over that. They have shown zero respect to long-time cPanel supports here.
telling everyone to contact their account manager is great, if 90% of us actually had one. What we do have however is a company we used to call partners that has completely forgotten how they have got to where they are today. A company that, admittedly is out there like the rest of us to make a profit, but in doing so has shot themselves in the foot. A foot they are now unable to reach due to the vast amount of greed consumed in its stomach.
The EIG host I had a client on until recently uses their own custom control panel.
The best thing cPanel could do is grandfather all existing licences and use new structure for all new licences. However, this won’t happen.
The VC actuaries would have calculated very carefully the loss of some customers/providers vs the uplift in cost and profit to the others. They will know for some businesses moving away from cPanel will not be possible. Within their portfolio Oakley have a few web hosts themselves including Host Europe which has acquired other hosts under that brand.
Are you sure about that? I recall Site5 was using cPanel/WHM but from the clients perspective it looked completely proprietary. The reality is, it was still cPanel. Their websites do list cPanel/WHM as what is being used too.
I cant find a definitive answer on this, are 'add-on' domains charged also or it it only the main hosting account that the per head cost applies to?