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PSA: Avoid 365NAP. Yet another Joshua Prout Scam

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  • imokimok Member

    @johnxenspec are you Joshua?

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  • johnxenspecjohnxenspec Member, Host Rep

    @imok No I'm not, are you?

  • imokimok Member

    @johnxenspec said:
    @imok No I'm not, are you?

    That's something he used to say.

  • zafouharzafouhar Veteran

    @johnxenspec said:
    @imok No I'm not, are you?

    Welcome back Josh!

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited June 2019

    A certain member here tipped me off, and may jump up and take the credit for the great find if they wish :)

    Edit: Apparently this was seen a while ago, but recently ramped up:

    Neoon said: Can someone confirm or deny that this is not related to him?
    https://interconnx.net/

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  • DcunninghamDcunningham Member
    edited June 2019

    @jar said:
    A certain member here tipped me off, and may jump up and take the credit for the great find if they wish :)

    Edit: Apparently this was seen a while ago, but recently ramped up:

    Neoon said: Can someone confirm or deny that this is not related to him?
    https://interconnx.net/

    Hey guys David here from ICX. Someone tipped me off about this post so I'm just going to nip it in the butt after taking a few hours to read it over @jar

    First off lets address TA correlation with 365NAP. 365NAP was never apart of TA. InterConnX was the sole owner of the space at 1415 Louisiana St and was never apart of TA or 365NAP.

    View Proof Below:
    https://imgur.com/a/3XmF56r
    https://imgur.com/a/bbPHU8e

    InterConnX owned the space at 1415 Louisiana St. We have no idea the operation that was transpiring with TA helping obelisk recover any equipment from 365NAP or anything of that nature. To my knowledge 365NAP was a customer of TA inside of our facility. At to be correct and NIP this accusation in the butt as well TA did nothing except for help Obelisk recover equipment as shown below.

    View Proof Below:
    https://imgur.com/a/wPyAAWj
    https://imgur.com/a/f2x0M0K

    https://imgur.com/a/BKDPYtW - I'm not sure how this twisted around but it being so much time since this incident happen I believe TA (which is no longer) ended up recovering over 80% of the units for Obelisk.

    @qps https://imgur.com/a/ItPyW5j this was addressed above 1415 might of not updated there website but InterConnX owned the space at 1415, TA was simple a customer with a private cage view images above you can match the suite numbers.

    Also there was something brought up about ASN's matching to to clear that up as well.
    https://ipinfo.io/AS33434

    After we acquired TA which went out of business shortly after the accusations of being related to 365NAP we acquired TA's ASN which is no match to 365NAP.

    TA - ASN https://bgp.he.net/AS397097

    Also to this day we still host Obelisk equipment and don't have any problems with them whatsoever. I'm not sure how all of this data was misconstrued but its good to nip all these things in the butt when its so easy for people to get things confused.

    @jar so any tips you might have or any members that might have some @Neoon I can nip them in the butt before they go any further while I'm here.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited June 2019

    Dcunningham said: David here from ICX

    If you're a real person, you are being used as a puppet (and not the first to be tricked into doing his dirty work by any stretch). Whether or not you are aware of it is irrelevant, we have a 100% accurate record of determining Prout's startups and this is one of them. A healthy amount of doubt, a good story, and no "smoking gun" have always been part of the process. But if you wait for the smoking gun, it's when he runs away with the hardware, every single time.

    My aim has always been to protect people from losing hardware in these scams time and time again.

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  • DcunninghamDcunningham Member
    edited June 2019

    @jar said:

    Dcunningham said: David here from ICX

    If you're a real person, you are being used as a puppet. Whether or not you are aware of it is irrelevant, we have a 100% accurate record of determining Prout's startups and this is one of them. A healthy amount of doubt, a good story, and no "smoking gun" have always been part of the process. But if you wait for the smoking gun, it's when he runs away with the hardware, every single time.

    Prout is nowhere in the ICX operation or anywhere higher up. I know of him in passing and seeing him around the 1415 building which he is now banned from aside from that being at or around any of ICX facilities he is not.

    • I understand where everyone on the LET community is with Prout. It makes my job a lot harder having to vet new customer, monitor transactions from customers and searching for any of our customer in association with Prout but whatever needs to be done to protect ICX is what Ill do. Believe me I understand I've been having to defend ICX from this guy on multiple forum as well as with multiple people.

    • We've also lost customers due to the drama so my aim is to protect ICX from Prout and us losing business because of the accusations of being associated with him. Whatever we need to do to accomplish that and to keep our image clean because we do great real estate and data center business is my/our goal.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited June 2019

    Dcunningham said: I understand where everyone on the LET community is with Prout. It makes my job a lot harder having to vet new customer, monitor transactions from customers and searching for any of our customer in association with Prout but whatever needs to be done to protect ICX is what Ill do. Believe me I understand I've been having to defend ICX from this guy on multiple forum as well as with multiple people.

    It's always Prout if:

    1. Houston
    2. Colo
    3. Website hosted on Namecheap shared hosting

    Any reasonable person can recognize that these variables do not function as proof, but given how specific they are (who has their own IP space and hosts Houston-specific datacenter sites on Namecheap shared hosting other than Prout?) and that the variables have had a 100% success rate (0% false positive rate) in identifying his scams one could reasonably arrive at the conclusion of "This has to be good enough." Especially when the only smoking gun is the disappearance of hardware, which inevitably comes every time.

    How many times have you personally met Katrina Roberts? Because I think I know who that is, and I think it's a friend of Prout's who he pays to put her name on things, and a fake LinkedIn profile photo. If you're real, I would bet money that she hired you and you've conveniently never met face to face. If you have, then I'd bet money that you are Prout and she's a hair dresser.

    It's no skin off my back, Prout just tends to back down not long after I call him out so just doing my part.

    P.S. https://securitytrails.com/domain/interconnx.net/history/a

  • PieHasBeenEatenPieHasBeenEaten Member, Host Rep

    @Dcunningham Ok something does not ad up the address provided on your website points to the same address for a law firm? Well wow they confirmed their address over the phone. Pretty funny

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  • @jar said:

    Dcunningham said: I understand where everyone on the LET community is with Prout. It makes my job a lot harder having to vet new customer, monitor transactions from customers and searching for any of our customer in association with Prout but whatever needs to be done to protect ICX is what Ill do. Believe me I understand I've been having to defend ICX from this guy on multiple forum as well as with multiple people.

    It's always Prout if:

    1. Houston
    2. Colo
    3. Website hosted on Namecheap shared hosting

    Any reasonable person can recognize that these variables do not function as proof, but given how specific they are (who has their own IP space and hosts datacenter sites on Namecheap shared hosting other than Prout?) and that the variables have had a 100% success rate (0% false positive rate) in identifying his scams one could reasonably arrive at the conclusion of "This has to be good enough." Especially when the only smoking gun is the disappearance of hardware, which inevitably comes every time.

    How many times have you personally met Katrina Roberts? Because I think I know who that is, and I think it's a friend of Prout's who he pays to put her name on things, and a fake LinkedIn profile photo. If you're real, I would bet money that she hired you and you've conveniently never met face to face.

    I've personally met everyone on the ICX team besides a few of the channel managers which mostly do social media work back end stuff. We have multiple locations not just Houston and we offer multiple products not just colocation. It feels like were going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I simple came to provide the facts of InterConnX owning the space at 1415 which was in question. Also someone mentioned IP's or ASN's matching so I felt I needed to clarify those things before they were taken out of context or flipped and turned into something else.

  • @PieHasBeenEaten said:
    @Dcunningham Ok something does not ad up the address provided on your website points to the same address for a law firm? Well wow they confirmed their address over the phone. Pretty funny

    Which address are you referring to? 1001 Texas Ave. 8th floor? or another office we have multiple in the Houston area?

  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor
    edited June 2019

    Found some smoke and followed the trail...

    @Dcunningham, seems your ICX account was banned from mc-market.

    Proof: https://www.mc-market.org/threads/488854/

    Banned Forever For: Ban evading (3VM, https://www.mc-market.org/members/60075/)

    Digging further reveals...

    Another account, (Steph), was also banned for ban evasion after being linked to the aforementioned 3VM account. This Steph persona was a representative for Carrier-4, an already confirmed Prout shell/scam company.

    Proof: https://www.mc-market.org/threads/191357/#post-1942282
    Proof2: https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/111327/scam-alert-carrier-4-com-datadatum-net-gonode5-in-houston-tx

    Draw your own conclusions, people. But it all seems pretty obvious to me.

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Dcunningham said: I've personally met everyone on the ICX team

    Which one did the website and chose Namecheap shared for it?

  • DcunninghamDcunningham Member
    edited June 2019

    @MasonR said:
    Found some smoke and followed the trail...

    @Dcunningham, seems your ICX account was banned from mc-market.

    Proof: https://www.mc-market.org/threads/488854/

    Banned Forever For: Ban evading (3VM, https://www.mc-market.org/members/60075/)

    Digging further reveals...

    Another account, (Steph), was also banned for ban evasion after being linked to the aforementioned 3VM account. This Steph persona was a representative Carrier-4, an already confirmed Prout shell/scam company.

    Proof: https://www.mc-market.org/threads/191357/#post-1942282

    Draw your own conclusions, people. But it all seems pretty obvious to me.

    That is being resolved with whoever the moderator was on MCM, more than likely something drama filled and someone trying to pretend to resell or be apart of ICX. I've been getting a lot of complaints lately from customer about people claiming to work for ICX or being apart of ICX just for the giggles. Its probably one of those shenanigans going around again but I'm sure its going to be taken out of context as well and ill have to fact check it like I'm doing this deck of cards built plot here.

  • @jar said:

    Dcunningham said: I've personally met everyone on the ICX team

    Which one did the website and chose Namecheap shared for it?

    I'm not sure about that one, we manage our own building space in Houston so I cross many faces with ICX Realty shirts on knowing all of the roles they play is not something study.

  • PieHasBeenEatenPieHasBeenEaten Member, Host Rep

    @Dcunningham icxrealty anyways. So you say you own data center space or what ever. I live 45 mins away from the houston area. If you are really serious then show me your operation then. Let me take a tour as a potential client. Anyways

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  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor

    @PieHasBeenEaten said:
    @Dcunningham icxrealty anyways. So you say you own data center space or what ever. I live 45 mins away from the houston area. If you are really serious then show me your operation then. Let me take a tour as a potential client. Anyways

  • DcunninghamDcunningham Member
    edited June 2019

    @PieHasBeenEaten said:
    @Dcunningham icxrealty anyways. So you say you own data center space or what ever. I live 45 mins away from the houston area. If you are really serious then show me your operation then. Let me take a tour as a potential client. Anyways

    You can setup a tour with the DC manager in Houston chadhguary [@] icxrealty.com he is the on site property managers for our Houston offices and 1001 space facility.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @PieHasBeenEaten said:
    @Dcunningham icxrealty anyways. So you say you own data center space or what ever. I live 45 mins away from the houston area. If you are really serious then show me your operation then. Let me take a tour as a potential client. Anyways

    Remember, Houston can't afford to hire enough cops to do anything other than be there to take a statement afterward. Watch your back, no one else will there.

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    So the suspicion is that @Dcunningham = Prout?

  • @angstrom said:
    So the suspicion is that @Dcunningham = Prout?

    This is a prime example of how rumors and misconstrued information gets started/spread.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @angstrom said:
    So the suspicion is that @Dcunningham = Prout?

    I'm going to go with yes because I don't think one can meet this person in the photo under this name:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrina-roberts-bbb501174/

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  • mk1mk1 Member

    @jar said:

    @angstrom said:
    So the suspicion is that @Dcunningham = Prout?

    I'm going to go with yes because I don't think one can meet this person in the photo under this name:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrina-roberts-bbb501174/

    Odd that she was working in NY and going to school in Texas at the same time

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    mk1 said: Odd that she was working in NY and going to school in Texas at the same time

    Granted I'm no stranger to being in Texas and working in NY. What I found interesting is that both people fell off the map professionally on the same month in 2017, only to appear again for this venture.

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  • KrisKris Member

    Dcunningham said: Also to this day we still host Obelisk equipment and don't have any problems with them whatsoever. I'm not sure how all of this data was misconstrued but its good to nip all these things in the butt when its so easy for people to get things confused.

    Well Prout, his new companies, etc. have been sued and seemingly lost in a default judgement against them by a company who deals in crypto: https://unicourt.com/case/tx-hrj-merito-alpha-i-llc-vs-365nap-internet-llc-proutech-llc-823340

    https://www.wraltechwire.com/2018/12/11/chapel-hill-startup-lands-1-1m-for-cryptocurrency-mining-plan-involving-gamers-video/

    Wonder how much of that investment infusion went towards Prout.

    I'd run from this entire operation. Shells upon shells.

    Poor grammar and english on the homepage shows this isn't a polished operation, but is trying so hard to sound polished by someone not too educated.

    ICX Realty invest invests* heavily in operational leadership, training, tools and systems across all of our owned and managed critical environments (run on sentence). [This helps to] mitigate human error and maintain up time. As a privately help held* company, we are well capitalized to develop infrastructure where needed, when needed necessary*, while consistently adapting to customer needs.

    You've got some grammar issues, run on sentences, and mis-used words. Further, you should avoid using 'needed' twice in one sentence as it sounds redundant.

    Finally, you should not be scamming people, 100% this was written by someone who watched Wolf Of Wall Street and this is their Stratton Oakmont, but was smart enough to hire a front-man this time.

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  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor
    edited June 2019

    @Dcunningham, could you please elaborate on how you earned a Master's degree from a grade 7-12 boarding school?

  • @Kris said:

    Dcunningham said: Also to this day we still host Obelisk equipment and don't have any problems with them whatsoever. I'm not sure how all of this data was misconstrued but its good to nip all these things in the butt when its so easy for people to get things confused.

    Well Prout, his new companies, etc. have been sued and seemingly lost in a default judgement against them by a company who deals in crypto: https://unicourt.com/case/tx-hrj-merito-alpha-i-llc-vs-365nap-internet-llc-proutech-llc-823340

    https://www.wraltechwire.com/2018/12/11/chapel-hill-startup-lands-1-1m-for-cryptocurrency-mining-plan-involving-gamers-video/

    Wonder how much of that investment infusion went towards Prout.

    I'd run from this entire operation. Shells upon shells.

    Poor grammar and english on the homepage shows this isn't a polished operation, but is trying so hard to sound polished by someone not too educated.

    ICX Realty invest invests* heavily in operational leadership, training, tools and systems across all of our owned and managed critical environments (run on sentence). [This helps to] mitigate human error and maintain up time. As a privately help held* company, we are well capitalized to develop infrastructure where needed, when needed necessary*, while consistently adapting to customer needs.

    You've got some grammar issues, run on sentences, and mis-used words. Further, you should avoid using 'needed' twice in one sentence as it sounds redundant.

    Finally, you should not be scamming people, 100% this was written by someone who watched Wolf Of Wall Street and this is their Stratton Oakmont, but was smart enough to hire a front-man this time.

    We shouldn't be scamming people? I'm not sure where that came from but way left field. No scams have been reported against ICX from anywhere we aren't that type of ops.

  • KrisKris Member
    edited June 2019

    Dcunningham said: We shouldn't be scamming people? I'm not sure where that came from but way left field. No scams have been reported against ICX from anywhere we aren't that type of ops.

    So you just brushed over the fact that your homepage is claiming to be a high level realty specalty company but was written by someone who likely failed graduating high school.

    Yes, scams often have a period where they aren't reported, only once the scam begins do things go sour, like your last company names.

    I'll see you in 6-12 months, you seem to be the perfect blend of dumb-shit and stock photo these idiots need.

    I hope when the lawsuits come, if you exist - are personally named.

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  • DcunninghamDcunningham Member
    edited June 2019

    @MasonR said:
    @Dcunningham, could you please elaborate on how you earned a Master's degree from a grade 7-12 boarding school?

    Now your just being petty its from UNSA no elaboration needed. If this is just going to turn into petty questions and assumptions ill see myself out. @PieHasBeenEaten when you schedule that tour let me know would like to meet you.

    If anyone finds any other information worth me responding to with FACTS just let me know. If you cant reach me on here I typically respond to the ICX sales email. By the looks of it nothing will be resolved here because no facts are being brought forward.

    ICX owned the space at 1415 its been proven and we have the purchase documents as well as proof of sale for the space after we acquired TA.

    ASN's from 365NAP do not match ICX I didn't see any other information that warranted a reply with facts but again if anything does come up ill respond accordingly when I see it.

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