Low End VPS Offer Posting Rules (Update 2012)
This forum can be used by VPS hosting providers to post special offers for the LowEndTalk community. These are the rules for posting in this category:
- Members must have 5 posts and have been registered for 7 days to be allowed to post in this forum.
- You must have a website with a proper ordering system. "Email me to get this deal" does not count.
- VPS offers only. No shared hosting, cloud hosting or other products where the actual users do not get root or Administrator account.
Low End offers only. Currently a price point must be met
- USD$7/month recurring on monthly billing, with no setup fee, or
- USD$60/year recurring on annual billing, with no setup fee, if the provider has been in business for more than a year.
- For currency other than USD, use the foreign exchange on the day of posting to verify the cost fits the requirement.
- Do not list packages that do not pass the pricing test, even if you have one or more that do.
Maximum 1 post per provider per 14 days. More frequent than that would be regarded as spams and posts will be removed.
Using a nulled WHMCS grants you a lifetime ban on LowEndBox and LowEndTalk.
Providers under 12 months old need to display valid Public WHOIS information on their domain.
Please be informative in your offers. Please list out basic specifications (amount of memory, storage space, monthly data/bandwidth and port speed), virtualization method (Xen, OpenVZ, KVM, etc), data center location and a test IP would be ideal.
Discussion threads that do not conform to the rules will be deleted, and repeating offenders will have account suspended.
Just for information, it would be nice to list down all the payment gateways one provider supports.
For me, I have to place an order to know what payment gateways they support, in my country Paypal does not work
Thanks for putting this in writing. Not having such was an issue before.
edit: I would suggest though dropping the post count down to 5. We don't get that much traffic around here.
@drmike -- Yup done. Thanks for suggestion. More rules will be written regarding to the conduct on the this community forum (when I get a chances).
So no offer posts during the 1st 7 days?
@miTgiB -- to prevent people signing up just to post their offers, rather than wanting to be part of the community first.
While I know it doesn't pertain to this site much, I'm just throwing my advertising rules from FreeWHT in hopes it can offer some ideas: http://www.freewebhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?12231-Advertisement-Rules
I'm a huge fan of the post + age requirement to prevent spam. I normally do 10 posts + 24 hours for posting links, images, or using signatures but for advertising I do 10 posts + 7 days. Bravo LEA!
While I know many others disagree with this, might I suggest a similar requirement that WHT has, require non-hidden WHOIS for domains? I know some people hide their WHOIS for privacy but as a company you shouldn't hide behind it. Just my opinion of course.
Thanks for the link. I'll "study" it a bit today after work
Edit -- @KuJoe yes it makes sense to have non-hidden WHOIS for actual commercial site where people entrusted their credit card info or PayPal info with.
Are the cheap dedicated server offers not allowed?
@dmmcintyre3 -- At the beginning I did list cheap dedicated servers at $30/month or less. However I found
Yes I know there is still a market for it, and it's something I need to think about. LowEndBox/LowEndTalk wasn't really aiming at filling every space there's a market though.
I would not posting any offer here..
I'm going to miss the investigation that LEA do on LEB.
I'd love to see some info about the 'provider' at least if he's a real company with a tax id, and how long he's been in business as a company.
Additionally, who can post offers? Only providers or also resellers, with a referral code (pls, no!). Last year Linode did a great offer that someone (Dr Mike?) posted on let. Will that be allowed?
@marrco -- good question. If someone from the community found a good offer posted in other forums that fit into the criteria, can that be posted? I would think so, as "sharing a good VPS deal" is quite a community thing to do.
That means I might need to rewrite the rules a bit
I've posted offers that I've come across before. Seems like most of them wind up in the dead pool though. I don't have much good luck with finding good ones.
Takes 5 minutes to get a PMB. (Heck, I use one of the resource centers that I used to volunteer at for my whois) Never saw the need for a hidden Whois.
Thieves love the WHOIS Privacy.
@marrcomarrco LEA has posted resellers before on the main site. He usually states that they're resellers though although I believe we've caught a couple that has gotten by him.
Is it possible to open a dedicated section to post LEB offers? A mix of discussions and offers will be confusing.
@fan - you're just looking at it odd Check the right hand side of the main index and you'll see categories. The default view is a massive 'group all'.
@fan - all the offers will be here.
Well in theory of course they'll be there. We've had a few providers who I wouldn't be sure for them to get their offers in the right place.
@LEA Is the goal to have all offers submitted in the offers section then cherry pick what you like best to be featured on LEB?
@miTgiB - yes that was my plan. Maybe not just from the providers, but also other users if they have spotted an offer. And I don't mind current customers leaking customer-only deals
How much time I can spend on LEB/LET is really limited as I have work and other commitments. Sometimes I too have missed some great offers. Some good offers were sent to me, and by the time I managed to post them they either have sold out or close to expiry. So maybe an Offers forum would help.
But yes, rules need to be in place to prevent too much spams.
@LEA Great, I was seeing how this was playing out and that struck me as a great idea, and you've added some more benefits to doing it that way as well, should turn into a success for everyone.
About the 5 post requirement and the 7 days of registration time, it would be good to limit the posts to multiple days (at least on 2 different days) and also that they are quality posts, not crappy posts like "yeah, you're right", "i disagree (if no points are mention)". Otherwise, some hosts could began spaming again.
Hmm - would this replace the system whereby you emailed contact @ [leb].com ?
the availability of native ipv6 should also be part of the offer (I think)
So maybe create some template form where a provider has to fill all the required fields and only then his post appears on the offers section? This way it will be easier to compare the offers.
Does this means in case that same offer appear at LET and then at LEB doubled discussion?
If yes I see some potential long term problems here like a lot doubled posts, doubled arguments, etc, etc.. or opposite - some important part, some discovery, some interesting users experience... in one of those two doubled threads missing, etc.
Sometimes appear some really interesting discussion about some host - and now isn't a bit problematic to have SAME interesting popular discussion divided into two places?
How often they're allowed to post offers here would also be something that needs to be looked at.