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I love criticism! Thank you! But I also do not want to sound mean, but this bit of criticism is the most useless criticism one can devise. Do you find anything else?
That's taken form that cheap eastern pseudo philosophy you're reading, right? I'm not a fan.
Sorry.
That's so silly.
Debian rules the low end, that's all you can say.
Nope, left.
You are doing the community a disservice by claiming the code you put in a repo is GPL licensed.
The ownership of bot generated code is impossible to assert and you cannot copyright such code under current U.S. and European copyright laws.
You are not the copyright holder of code generated by a bot, you can only claim copyright to code you own.
You own the prompts and the code corrections you made to the bot generated code, and that's all. The code in that repo is not yours to license as you please.
If you want to license something then license the prompts and the code corrections you authored, that's all you are allowed to do according to US and European laws.
Your licensing is illegal in the U.S. and in Europe
probably illegal in Canada too.
Now that's even cheaper philosophy man.
Take my advice, stay with the cheap eastern kind, it will make you look better.
Cannot care more about how other think I look. But great advice otherwise
Yeah, I smell a Karen from miles away. But now I know your also not very smart as you think you are.
There is no copyright of any to Jabali because it's GPL. Applying a copyright-based open-source license (like the GPL) to pure AI code is legally ineffective (because there is no copyright to grant or condition), placing the code in a repository with an open license signals to the community that the code is free to use and share.
So.. Sue me
Besides, I thought you said you have many things on your hands, so how about doing that and leave this thread alone? This trolling is for kids, and I stopped dealing with it back in School.
Cheap eastern philosophy is very popular in some circles, it makes you look good at parties. A lot of ladies love it.
Ineffective licensing terms applied to ineffective code.
That seems like a good fit.
Wow, you worded it so politely! When I heard about torvalds utterings on ai, my first reaction was "Oops, now he seems to be in a race with greg k-h who is the more [self-censored] of the two!"
But maybe I just missed that he got a kind of ai transplant. Might actually be the next logical step for linux.
@jabali
Your panel seems to have some attractive features - but I don't care as it's ai slop, sorry.
Yeah, Linus knows nothing about programming or code. He is an AI shill now...
Can you give us some insights on why AI code is bad?
You are such a nice person!
And so well educated as well, as if all you know comes from some LLM.
You can't put a license on something you don't own.
Your code is effectively public domain, so none of the limitations of the GPL apply here or would be enforceable.
I am trying to be nice as much as possible.
My knowladge came from Books and wikipedia. I am old
That is fine by me.
Tell your ai to not put words in my mouth. I did not say he knows nothing about programming.
Oh, that was me being cynical on your censored comment on Linus and Greg.
I will spare you what my AI think about your remark about Linus and Greg. (he wasn't polite like me)
I have been testing this control panel for over 3 months, any problem that arises gets fixed quick, by the developer witch has shown great knowledge, the panel users based is growing, ... I encourage anyone looking for a free panel to give it a try. .. AI also needs human help.
Here is my honest opinion about Jabali.
The company I work for Webquest has been trying to find suitable hosting for sometime. The problems we were facing were high renewal costs after the first year and web admin panels that were nearly as much as the hosting. We weren't able to, for various reasons, able to pass the full cost on to our customers and at the time platforms like cPanel were hiking their subscriptions.
There were a lot of cheap alternatives on the market, based on a Google search, but most of them seemed to be no longer supported. It was only after going through pages and pages of listings on Github.com that I found Jabali. Not a Google search, not through an advertising campaign, but by searching the hard way.
The first thing I check on Github.com for any project is the Issues tab. How often are current and new issues being addressed. This is the main point for me. To my surprise all issues were being systematically addressed with the Jabali project.
Now I didn't jump in straightaway. I researched it for about a month using a VPS virtualisor running on my laptop, slowly trying it with some of our WordPress sites and some of which were not fully updated. I also tried some Django/Wagtail apps which I admittedly had a few problems with. However I found the ticket system most adequate for getting help. Sometimes it was something I had done wrong and sometimes a bug in Jabali which I reported on github Issues and it would usually be fixed within 24 hours and sometimes a bit longer. The responses I got back from the Jabali team were often quite comprehensive, often several paragraphs. I am probably one of the stress testers of the system as I run about 50 websites on it. Anyway coming in now will reap the benefit of those bug fixes.
After about a month we purchased a VPS from Hostinger which is one of those fully automated hosting platforms and installed Jabali on a VPS. Then we proceeded to move all of our sites off of DreamIT. Note that we have no grievance against DreamIT. Their support was good. However they were quite conservative about what web panels they would provide and they felt Jabali was too new.
My personal view about Jabali is that I like it more than cPanel or DirectAdmin. I like the System Status page which shows the health of the server at a glance and which user accounts are hogging resources. You can set limits for many OS resources, like CPU, on a per user basis. Something I've never had on DirectAdmin or cPanel. Some things I found a bit of a learning curve, for instance the cron works a little differently to cPanel or DirectAdmin. Nothing that turned out to be a major problem but there was a little bit of a learning curve and I think much of that came around learning Jabali's security model.
I think for me, at the start, I knew there was some risk into jumping into something new, and I am fairly conservative by nature but in the end I considered the added benefits were worth it and that month of prior testing gave me some confidence that it wouldn't be an immediate disaster.
For anyone deciding to set this up on a production system I would advise taking a server for backup before running Jabali updates, especially if from the development branch. Otherwise I have no regrets.
Hope that helps someone. 🙂
Demo looks good and smooth.
If anyone has an offer, feel free to let me know:
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/222295/looking-for-kvm-vps-for-jabali-panel-testing-4gb-ram-50gb-ssd#latest
Install it on a VirtualBox and try it! I will be gladly give you full support on Github issues.
basura de IA (again)
initially i don't really interested for yet another slop project but after seeing Debian 13, Go and AGPL-v3 i decided to stop by. interesting feature for isolation & hardening btw. questions;
Hmmmm..... - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=818bebeb63dd6bf5f4e07e145f6cdbace520a34c
Linus made Linux without Linux using not Linux to make Linux because Linux wasn't Linux before Linus made Linux, but how did Linus make Linux without Linux when Linux needs Linux to make Linux but Linux didn't exist until Linus made Linux without Linux
I don't think AI is in a good place yet. AI can help us generate what we're thinking much faster, but leaving everything entirely to AI just creates more slop. It can produce great code with proper direction and prompting, but that also means the person using it needs to have enough knowledge to understand what they're doing.
AI Slop Discussions
I've been using Jabali for a while now and its very promising. I only have good thing to say about it. Planning to move my cpanel clients one server at a time eventually.
You should have read the thread, it was a cynical remake I made for someone said that Linus is [censored] for using AI and showing signs of decadence along with Greg.
I love AI and I think it's a great power tool in the developer arsenal. I don't think any of the critics of AI here can write half as good as any AI.
I think the slop in software dev is where people with no development background create a software with tons of bugs and never bother to maintain it. Which makes bad softwares flood.
But if you know what you are doing, and keep up with the bug fix, it can not considered as a slop.
I get that it was a joke.........