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VSYS Ukraine down?

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  • Russia will keep hitting them, that's the main issue

  • For those who think their dedicated servers won't come up, there is big chance it will but as Vsys said, it needs proper inspection before powering up those DEDI servers.

    I had a VPS in that location, Critical data on it, and as they promised, it came online 2 days ago, operational and 0 data loss, I am migrating it to NL location.

    Don't pay attention to these angry rumours circling around. They said majority of servers survived, then majority of servers survived! If you can wait please do, but if dont, simply run your disaster recovery plan.

    Everyone be a little fair, they got hit by a Missile/Drone!

  • Don't get your hopes up, 1-2 weeks is the minimum timeframe.

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  • Following the disaster, ITLDC provided timely and frequent updates on recovery progress; once they regained access to the facility, they assisted dedicated server clients with data backups and helped users set up dedicated servers with identical or superior specifications at other data centers. In contrast, VSYS performed poorly in this regard: https://status.itldc.com/incident/188

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:
    Following the disaster, ITLDC provided timely and frequent updates on recovery progress; once they regained access to the facility, they assisted dedicated server clients with data backups and helped users set up dedicated servers with identical or superior specifications at other data centers. In contrast, VSYS performed poorly in this regard: https://status.itldc.com/incident/188

    from https://status.itldc.com/incident/188

    "We remind all customers that independent backups are essential, regardless of datacenter location or service type."

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  • I don't understand people fiercely defending VSYS. It's a service, and while I know the attack wasn't their fault, it's obvious this recovery process is being poorly managed. Other hosting providers facing the exact same issue already restored their dedicated servers. VSYS, on the other hand, stopped updating their status and isn't even answering support tickets anymore. The least they could do is keep us informed.

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  • @GN9101 said:
    I don't understand people fiercely defending VSYS. It's a service, and while I know the attack wasn't their fault, it's obvious this recovery process is being poorly managed. Other hosting providers facing the exact same issue already restored their dedicated servers. VSYS, on the other hand, stopped updating their status and isn't even answering support tickets anymore. The least they could do is keep us informed.

    Yes, they have been quite poor when it comes to keeping people informed.

    It is true that their competitors also experienced outages, but after a few days they moved their services to a different location and brought them back online. At the very least, I think users should be given updates such as “20% of services have now been restored,” so they have some idea of the progress and do not remain uncertain.

    I still have not received any response to the support ticket I submitted this morning. They only keep updating the status of the ticket, but no actual information is being provided.

    At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

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  • I don’t understand how people can defend such inadequate service either. I guess they don’t understand because they haven’t experienced it themselves.

  • I’m also eager for this to be resolved. I asked if they could tell me whether my dedicated server was in the first or the second data center, and they replied as follows.

    Thank you for your kind words and understanding. We truly appreciate it.

    Based on the information we have at the moment, your server was located in the data center that remained was severely affected . According to our information, most servers have survived.

    We understand how important your data is to you, and we will provide you with further updates regarding your server as soon as we have more information.

    --
    Best regards,
    VSYS Host Support Team

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  • GN9101GN9101 Member
    edited September 28

    The whole situation feels very suspicious. Honestly, I see only two possibilities:

    The data (or most of it) is completely lost, which is why they stopped updating and replying to tickets.

    The recovery is being so poorly managed that they still don't even have a location to place the physical servers. If that’s the case, the bare minimum they should do is keep us informed.

    They need to realize that dedicated server clients represent far more revenue than basic VPS instances yet VPS were prioritized first. With this approach, they are forcing dedicated server clients to switch providers as soon as this is resolved.

    Nobody expects miracles; we just want STATUS UPDATES so we can make informed decisions for our businesses. The service itself has always been solid that's why I hired them in the first place but their communication and crisis management pale in comparison to other providers who have already recovered.

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  • apollo15apollo15 Veteran
    edited September 28

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:
    Following the disaster, ITLDC provided timely and frequent updates on recovery progress; once they regained access to the facility, they assisted dedicated server clients with data backups and helped users set up dedicated servers with identical or superior specifications at other data centers. In contrast, VSYS performed poorly in this regard: https://status.itldc.com/incident/188

    ITLDC is a big and reputable company

    VSYS is a small time hosting provider making a living selling illegal crap nobody wants to touch

    you can't be serious comparing those two

    it is not VSYS fault at all... not keeping backups is purely your fault. You should have restored elsewhere the moment gets came out already

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  • @apollo15 said:

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:
    Following the disaster, ITLDC provided timely and frequent updates on recovery progress; once they regained access to the facility, they assisted dedicated server clients with data backups and helped users set up dedicated servers with identical or superior specifications at other data centers. In contrast, VSYS performed poorly in this regard: https://status.itldc.com/incident/188

    ITLDC is a big and reputable company

    VSYS is a small time hosting provider making a living selling illegal crap nobody wants to touch

    you can't be serious comparing those two

    it is not VSYS fault at all... not keeping backups is purely your fault. You should have restored elsewhere the moment gets came out already

    In your logic, only VSYS and ITLDC were attacked, and zero other hosters. I don't know what's worse—what you said or your reasoning behind it.

    Not everybody has the same business model as you. VSYS exists because there's demand for it. Should everyone have offsite backups? Of course, but that's not the point here—your lack of reading comprehension is showing. The issue is how they're addressing the problem:

    • 0 responses to support tickets

    • 0 status updates

    • Prioritizing VPS over dedicated servers

    This is basic: no one is discussing legalities or backup habits here. The whole complaint is about their crisis management. If you lack the reading comprehension for 4 simple lines and just post whatever comes to mind, you're better off moving along to another thread.

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  • @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

  • @krobzow said:

    @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

    Yes, status updates should be provided daily, especially given that competitors have already resumed operations. If a new data center hasn't been found within a week, the company should simply shut down vsys, announce its closure, and cede the business to its competitors. I recommend Maple-Hosting's offshore servers, even though they are a bit pricier. :)

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  • chinagadschinagads Member
    edited September 28

    Starlink Dedicated Service
    Starlink Dedicated Service for Enterprise is designed for high-throughput enterprise installations. Starlink says it provides unlimited data with its highest traffic-priority tier, and sites have to be qualified and approved by Starlink Sales. Starlink
    One configuration is 6+ bonded Performance terminals, providing approximately:

    • 2.4 Gbps download
    • 600 Mbps upload
    • Multiple Starlinks bonded together
    • Unlimited data
    • Enterprise/highest-tier prioritization

    This would be cool to open in a remote area of ukraine russia does not give a shit about.

             STARLINK CONSTELLATION
                     │
       ┌─────────────┼─────────────┐
       │             │             │
    

    Gateway Group A Group B Group C...
    20G 20G 20G
    │ │ │
    └─────────────┼─────────────┘
    │
    BGP EDGE
    100/400 GbE
    │
    400G CORE PAIR
    / | \
    Rack 1 Rack 2 ... Rack N
    │ │ │
    Dedicated Dedicated Dedicated
    Servers Servers Servers

  • apollo15apollo15 Veteran
    edited September 28

    @GN9101 said: Prioritizing VPS over dedicated servers

    VPS Nodes was easiest to take out and rack somewhere. They saved what can be saved, not what makes them most of money.

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said: Maple-Hosting

    just global-layer reseller. And global-layer is not offshore provider, it is just marketing gimmick.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @chinagads said:
    Starlink Dedicated Service
    Starlink Dedicated Service for Enterprise is designed for high-throughput enterprise installations. Starlink says it provides unlimited data with its highest traffic-priority tier, and sites have to be qualified and approved by Starlink Sales. Starlink
    One configuration is 6+ bonded Performance terminals, providing approximately:

    • 2.4 Gbps download
    • 600 Mbps upload
    • Multiple Starlinks bonded together
    • Unlimited data
    • Enterprise/highest-tier prioritization

    This would be cool to open in a remote area of ukraine russia does not give a shit about.

             STARLINK CONSTELLATION
                     │
       ┌─────────────┼─────────────┐
       │             │             │
    

    Gateway Group A Group B Group C...
    20G 20G 20G
    │ │ │
    └─────────────┼─────────────┘
    │
    BGP EDGE
    100/400 GbE
    │
    400G CORE PAIR
    / | \
    Rack 1 Rack 2 ... Rack N
    │ │ │
    Dedicated Dedicated Dedicated
    Servers Servers Servers

    People tried that, putting up multiple starlinks, it doesn't scale like that.

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  • @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

    Yes, status updates should be provided daily, especially given that competitors have already resumed operations. If a new data center hasn't been found within a week, the company should simply shut down vsys, announce its closure, and cede the business to its competitors. I recommend Maple-Hosting's offshore servers, even though they are a bit pricier. :)

    10.00: Still haven't found a new DC
    18.00: Still havent't found a new DC

    People are of course free to use a competitor, and honestly I don't even understand why they don't.
    If/when VSYS come back in some week or months, people can switch back to them then if they want to.

    This is probably gonna take a while. And as they said, there's currently no ETA.
    And while you're waiting for ETA, use someone else.

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  • @krobzow said:

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

    Yes, status updates should be provided daily, especially given that competitors have already resumed operations. If a new data center hasn't been found within a week, the company should simply shut down vsys, announce its closure, and cede the business to its competitors. I recommend Maple-Hosting's offshore servers, even though they are a bit pricier. :)

    10.00: Still haven't found a new DC
    18.00: Still havent't found a new DC

    People are of course free to use a competitor, and honestly I don't even understand why they don't.
    If/when VSYS come back in some week or months, people can switch back to them then if they want to.

    This is probably gonna take a while. And as they said, there's currently no ETA.
    And while you're waiting for ETA, use someone else.

    Comparisons can be painful. While it may indeed be a case of force majeure, the fact that others managed to handle it while you didn't makes it your problem. Timely disclosure allows users to make informed choices—isn't that the bare minimum? Everyone else is discussing how vsys could have done better, yet you are busy lecturing and blaming the users.

  • @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

    Yes, status updates should be provided daily, especially given that competitors have already resumed operations. If a new data center hasn't been found within a week, the company should simply shut down vsys, announce its closure, and cede the business to its competitors. I recommend Maple-Hosting's offshore servers, even though they are a bit pricier. :)

    10.00: Still haven't found a new DC
    18.00: Still havent't found a new DC

    People are of course free to use a competitor, and honestly I don't even understand why they don't.
    If/when VSYS come back in some week or months, people can switch back to them then if they want to.

    This is probably gonna take a while. And as they said, there's currently no ETA.
    And while you're waiting for ETA, use someone else.

    Comparisons can be painful. While it may indeed be a case of force majeure, the fact that others managed to handle it while you didn't makes it your problem. Timely disclosure allows users to make informed choices—isn't that the bare minimum? Everyone else is discussing how vsys could have done better, yet you are busy lecturing and blaming the users.

    I think you need to re-read my post. I haven't blamed any users. I said I don't understand why they don't use another DC while they're waiting, if they can. Why sit around and wait for VSYS to come back online?

    According to their site:

    As of today, we have not found a facility that meets all of these requirements. The search is ongoing.

    This is why there is currently no ETA for dedicated server restoration. Any estimate given before a facility is confirmed would not be reliable, and we would rather not give customers a date we cannot stand behind.

    No ETA is no ETA. They can of couse state this twice a day like you asked, maybe even three or four times a day, but that still doesn't change anything.

  • @Neoon said:

    @chinagads said:
    Starlink Dedicated Service
    Starlink Dedicated Service for Enterprise is designed for high-throughput enterprise installations. Starlink says it provides unlimited data with its highest traffic-priority tier, and sites have to be qualified and approved by Starlink Sales. Starlink
    One configuration is 6+ bonded Performance terminals, providing approximately:

    • 2.4 Gbps download
    • 600 Mbps upload
    • Multiple Starlinks bonded together
    • Unlimited data
    • Enterprise/highest-tier prioritization

    This would be cool to open in a remote area of ukraine russia does not give a shit about.

             STARLINK CONSTELLATION
                     │
       ┌─────────────┼─────────────┐
       │             │             │
    

    Gateway Group A Group B Group C...
    20G 20G 20G
    │ │ │
    └─────────────┼─────────────┘
    │
    BGP EDGE
    100/400 GbE
    │
    400G CORE PAIR
    / | \
    Rack 1 Rack 2 ... Rack N
    │ │ │
    Dedicated Dedicated Dedicated
    Servers Servers Servers

    People tried that, putting up multiple starlinks, it doesn't scale like that.

    LOL I would be happy with 10mbps at this point

  • @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

    Yes, status updates should be provided daily, especially given that competitors have already resumed operations. If a new data center hasn't been found within a week, the company should simply shut down vsys, announce its closure, and cede the business to its competitors. I recommend Maple-Hosting's offshore servers, even though they are a bit pricier. :)

    10.00: Still haven't found a new DC
    18.00: Still havent't found a new DC

    People are of course free to use a competitor, and honestly I don't even understand why they don't.
    If/when VSYS come back in some week or months, people can switch back to them then if they want to.

    This is probably gonna take a while. And as they said, there's currently no ETA.
    And while you're waiting for ETA, use someone else.

    Comparisons can be painful. While it may indeed be a case of force majeure, the fact that others managed to handle it while you didn't makes it your problem. Timely disclosure allows users to make informed choices—isn't that the bare minimum? Everyone else is discussing how vsys could have done better, yet you are busy lecturing and blaming the users.

    I will use someone else FOR NOW! but I will be RIGHT back to VSYS because well this was not their fault so why blame them I blame me yes I had a backup server in a different datacenter no one could know BOTH would get knocked out =(*

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @krobzow said:

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

    Yes, status updates should be provided daily, especially given that competitors have already resumed operations. If a new data center hasn't been found within a week, the company should simply shut down vsys, announce its closure, and cede the business to its competitors. I recommend Maple-Hosting's offshore servers, even though they are a bit pricier. :)

    10.00: Still haven't found a new DC
    18.00: Still havent't found a new DC

    People are of course free to use a competitor, and honestly I don't even understand why they don't.
    If/when VSYS come back in some week or months, people can switch back to them then if they want to.

    This is probably gonna take a while. And as they said, there's currently no ETA.
    And while you're waiting for ETA, use someone else.

    I mean, if they bombed most of them, how you gonna find one?

  • @Neoon said:

    @chinagads said:
    Starlink Dedicated Service
    Starlink Dedicated Service for Enterprise is designed for high-throughput enterprise installations. Starlink says it provides unlimited data with its highest traffic-priority tier, and sites have to be qualified and approved by Starlink Sales. Starlink
    One configuration is 6+ bonded Performance terminals, providing approximately:

    • 2.4 Gbps download
    • 600 Mbps upload
    • Multiple Starlinks bonded together
    • Unlimited data
    • Enterprise/highest-tier prioritization

    This would be cool to open in a remote area of ukraine russia does not give a shit about.

             STARLINK CONSTELLATION
                     │
       ┌─────────────┼─────────────┐
       │             │             │
    

    Gateway Group A Group B Group C...
    20G 20G 20G
    │ │ │
    └─────────────┼─────────────┘
    │
    BGP EDGE
    100/400 GbE
    │
    400G CORE PAIR
    / | \
    Rack 1 Rack 2 ... Rack N
    │ │ │
    Dedicated Dedicated Dedicated
    Servers Servers Servers

    People tried that, putting up multiple starlinks, it doesn't scale like that.

    Why wouldn't it scale if you used MPTCP?

  • d2411d2411 Member
    edited September 29

    @Neoon said:

    @krobzow said:

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

    Yes, status updates should be provided daily, especially given that competitors have already resumed operations. If a new data center hasn't been found within a week, the company should simply shut down vsys, announce its closure, and cede the business to its competitors. I recommend Maple-Hosting's offshore servers, even though they are a bit pricier. :)

    10.00: Still haven't found a new DC
    18.00: Still havent't found a new DC

    People are of course free to use a competitor, and honestly I don't even understand why they don't.
    If/when VSYS come back in some week or months, people can switch back to them then if they want to.

    This is probably gonna take a while. And as they said, there's currently no ETA.
    And while you're waiting for ETA, use someone else.

    I mean, if they bombed most of them, how you gonna find one?

    In addition, you are not the only one who is looking for rack space. When I am correct , there are 4 DCs destroyed. So all of these servers have to be relocated. That’s a tricky situation

  • @d2411 said:

    @Neoon said:

    @krobzow said:

    @duonghowuaaxtnw763 said:

    @krobzow said:

    @Verunix said: At the very least, there should be one or two updates per day regarding the situation.

    Two updates per day? About what? That they're still haven't found a new DC?

    Yes, status updates should be provided daily, especially given that competitors have already resumed operations. If a new data center hasn't been found within a week, the company should simply shut down vsys, announce its closure, and cede the business to its competitors. I recommend Maple-Hosting's offshore servers, even though they are a bit pricier. :)

    10.00: Still haven't found a new DC
    18.00: Still havent't found a new DC

    People are of course free to use a competitor, and honestly I don't even understand why they don't.
    If/when VSYS come back in some week or months, people can switch back to them then if they want to.

    This is probably gonna take a while. And as they said, there's currently no ETA.
    And while you're waiting for ETA, use someone else.

    I mean, if they bombed most of them, how you gonna find one?

    In addition, you are not the only one who is looking for rack space. When I am correct , there are 4 DCs destroyed. So all of these servers have to be relocated. That’s a tricky situation

    Finding a new location shouldn't be that difficult, right? Unless VSYS has dozens of racks that need to be relocated.

    It's been several days with basically no status update

  • support totally dead we are with vsys but they are not with us anymore

  • itldc.com is also offershore/DMCA ignore hosting?

  • @MikeorMic said:
    itldc.com is also offershore/DMCA ignore hosting?

    yes i need

  • Many people don't even know what dedicated servers are; many have over 100 TB of storage set up and talk as if they could just switch to another provider. Regarding Vsys: the fact that there has been only one update in a week is an absolute outrage—leaving customers in the lurch like this. Option A: They claim the servers were exposed to water (it feels like the servers were destroyed and are no longer usable), but they won't admit it—or rather, they are spreading chaos among customers. Option B: All other hosting providers were attacked too, but they reacted quickly and regained customer trust, whereas Vsys is handling the situation very poorly; tickets aren't being answered, and the chat isn't working at all. We just want information.

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