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Are you having any issues signing up? They're telling me that the address I've provided doesn't match the address on file with my bank or payment method. This is not true.
I told customer services the same thing and offered to provide a statement showing the address, phone number and everything else.
Let's hope they fix it for me.
Oracle is there for the big players, they dont care about you, with your free account signup problems.
Always free account here. It has yet to affect me.
It will probably affect both PAYG and Free accounts at some point. Let's just hope it only applies to the newly created accounts or instances...
Sure. Then don't offer free tier if you do not want good sign ups. Instead straight up ask for 50 cents a month administration charges for a free tier or something like Scaleway Stardust etc
Would you pay administrative fee?
Why not? They are offering a really good free tier with so many good locations to pick from.
They changed the plans for old user (I am free tier)
So apparently, they didn't grandfathered old users.
I think if you already had an instance with the old 4 OCPU / 24 GB Always Free limits, it'll probably keep working as long as you don't terminate it or scale it down. The new 2 OCPU / 12 GB limit seems to apply when creating or resizing instances on Always Free accounts. PAYG accounts can still recreate instances with the old 4 OCPU / 24 GB allocation.
It's a huge difference of termination or rescaling. Termination seems logical to me, because then they can easily apply new limits. But rescaling? I mean it is a FLEX product, it is meant to be rescaled all the time. Actually I am on free tier and it still shows me the old limits in the banner on top.
I'm on PAYG, so I can't confirm how it behaves on Always Free. If I had a Free Tier account, though, and still had a 4 OCPU / 24 GB instance on the old limits, I personally wouldn't scale it down until Oracle clarifies whether the old allocation can be restored after resizing.
taking away your previously allocated free resources and then asking money for the missed resources is like stealing candy from a kid and asking money for it if they want it back. Only bankers can think of this, anyway Larry is from the banking kind.
In your example, you left out that you gave the kid the candy for free. It might be more like withholding allowance until kid does some chores.
Yes correct, Oracle gave the candy and then take half away and then asking money for it, if they want it back, for the 'always free' candy. Oracle licensing world is similar, with their java runtimes.. Omg. Stay away like the plague.
July 1st Oracle notification on a PAYG account:
https://i.postimg.cc/CK0j1TDK/PAYG.jpg
They say paid resources are not affected, but isn't Ampere A1 4c/24 a free resource ?
And also, the block volume storage now states : 2 block volumes, up to 200 GB. Is this 2 block volumes a new limit ? I don't recall having this limit, only the 200 GB limit.
edit: I think the 2 volumes limit is only for block volumes and not for boot volumes ...
https://i.postimg.cc/Kj92K2R2/block-volume.jpg
There was def a limit of 200Gb but i am not sure whether for boot and block. I am actually being charged for Storage (i think) more than I was charged in the past, so need to check it. I only have boot volumes.
I think free or not free may relate to the account - free or PAYG
No, it still isn't FFS. No kid holds onto candy indefinitely; this is monthly candy. Instead of four lollipops they only get two on the 1st of the month from now on.
And really, they haven't reclaimed any resources.
Old PayG oracle account here since 2023. Allocated 4/24 all the way back since I created this account. Didnt know that there is this changes until now, panics go and check billing section, still shows 0.00 so far (calmed), so I think that its true that there will be "no changes" for billing structure for old PayG account. Lets see for July....
After doing that they should stop calling it "always free" should they not?
In fact they did! My x86 instances are still called "always free", my ARM has been renamed to "always free eligible" in the OCI. However they shouldn't have named it "always free" in the first place, since we all know now, that "always" just ended.
Did they ever say anything about existing instances being affected? Or is it just new deployments?
I think a few posts back it was for new and changed plans. I haven't touched mine, still 4cores and 24gb. To be honest, I didn't expect this plan to last as long as it has, it's been years and a solid developer box, I've had a good run
Yes, free tier is going to be reduced. If you log in, you will see a banner. If you don't downsize, they will shut down your VPS. PAYG is probably going to be charged then for half of the month.
I see it now, the last time I logged in, there was no such banner.
same, banner now visible, is it confirmed if you don't change it, they delete it?
the only time i was charged was for storage when i moved from SJC to CH and now im just back in SJC with $0 in charges for the month and next month n so on. i still am on the old legacy PAYG plan since 2021
Not really confirmed that they delete it. But the site clearly states now:
Always Free
1,500 OCPU hours and 9,000 GB hours per month
This is also what I see as limits within my account. Suppose you don't downsize, you will have used up your free hours after half of the month. That means as free tier user they will turn your VPS off (and possibly reclaim/delete it after 7 days of idle). As PAYG user they will start charging you then on the 15th. Nobody knows if there will be a grace period for this month, but I already downsized, loosing my ARM is too much risk to me. Typically you cannot recreate it because out-of-capacity errors.
I am still using 4vCPU and 24 GB. On the homepage I got the banner but on the instances page, mine still says I got the old limits:
Interestingly the billing page forecast predicts the cost to remain zero:
https://www.oracle.com/cloud/price-list/
Yes, you are (all) right, there is many contradicting information currently on OCI and within the docs. If you check Reddit, you can find out that there is even more confusion if you contact Oracle support, because different people there will tell you even more different things.
What we know so far for sure:
What we don't know:
Just because I have seen Oracle in the past deleting "always free" instances (now called "always free eligable") for no reason, my opinion is: better be careful.