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Oracle Free Tier being reduced....

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  • manishmanish Member

    Are you having any issues signing up? They're telling me that the address I've provided doesn't match the address on file with my bank or payment method. This is not true.

    I told customer services the same thing and offered to provide a statement showing the address, phone number and everything else.

    Let's hope they fix it for me.

  • dbadudedbadude Member

    @manish said:
    Are you having any issues signing up? They're telling me that the address I've provided doesn't match the address on file with my bank or payment method. This is not true.

    I told customer services the same thing and offered to provide a statement showing the address, phone number and everything else.

    Let's hope they fix it for me.

    Oracle is there for the big players, they dont care about you, with your free account signup problems.

  • MonocleMonocle Member

    @mustafamw3 said:
    I only asked Oracle about the PAYG limits, and they confirmed they're still 3,000 OCPU-hours and 18,000 GB-hours per month. So my guess is that, for now, the reduced allocation only affects Always Free accounts. Unless Oracle says otherwise, PAYG doesn't appear to have been reduced.

    Always free account here. It has yet to affect me.
    It will probably affect both PAYG and Free accounts at some point. Let's just hope it only applies to the newly created accounts or instances...

  • manishmanish Member

    @dbadude said: Oracle is there for the big players, they dont care about you, with your free account signup problems.

    Sure. Then don't offer free tier if you do not want good sign ups. Instead straight up ask for 50 cents a month administration charges for a free tier or something like Scaleway Stardust etc :smiley:

  • LeviLevi Member

    @manish said:

    @dbadude said: Oracle is there for the big players, they dont care about you, with your free account signup problems.

    Sure. Then don't offer free tier if you do not want good sign ups. Instead straight up ask for 50 cents a month administration charges for a free tier or something like Scaleway Stardust etc :smiley:

    Would you pay administrative fee?

  • manishmanish Member

    @Levi said: Would you pay administrative fee?

    Why not? They are offering a really good free tier with so many good locations to pick from.

  • varwwwvarwww Member

    They changed the plans for old user (I am free tier)

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  • jolo22jolo22 Member
    edited June 26

    @varwww said:
    They changed the plans for old user (I am free tier)

    So apparently, they didn't grandfathered old users.

  • mustafamw3mustafamw3 Member, Patron Provider, LIR

    @jolo22 said:

    @varwww said:
    They changed the plans for old user (I am free tier)

    So apparently, they didn't grandfathered old users.

    I think if you already had an instance with the old 4 OCPU / 24 GB Always Free limits, it'll probably keep working as long as you don't terminate it or scale it down. The new 2 OCPU / 12 GB limit seems to apply when creating or resizing instances on Always Free accounts. PAYG accounts can still recreate instances with the old 4 OCPU / 24 GB allocation.

  • @mustafamw3 said:

    @jolo22 said:

    @varwww said:
    They changed the plans for old user (I am free tier)

    So apparently, they didn't grandfathered old users.

    I think if you already had an instance with the old 4 OCPU / 24 GB Always Free limits, it'll probably keep working as long as you don't terminate it or scale it down. The new 2 OCPU / 12 GB limit seems to apply when creating or resizing instances on Always Free accounts. PAYG accounts can still recreate instances with the old 4 OCPU / 24 GB allocation.

    It's a huge difference of termination or rescaling. Termination seems logical to me, because then they can easily apply new limits. But rescaling? I mean it is a FLEX product, it is meant to be rescaled all the time. Actually I am on free tier and it still shows me the old limits in the banner on top.

  • mustafamw3mustafamw3 Member, Patron Provider, LIR

    @jorohe6515 said:

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @jolo22 said:

    @varwww said:
    They changed the plans for old user (I am free tier)

    So apparently, they didn't grandfathered old users.

    I think if you already had an instance with the old 4 OCPU / 24 GB Always Free limits, it'll probably keep working as long as you don't terminate it or scale it down. The new 2 OCPU / 12 GB limit seems to apply when creating or resizing instances on Always Free accounts. PAYG accounts can still recreate instances with the old 4 OCPU / 24 GB allocation.

    It's a huge difference of termination or rescaling. Termination seems logical to me, because then they can easily apply new limits. But rescaling? I mean it is a FLEX product, it is meant to be rescaled all the time. Actually I am on free tier and it still shows me the old limits in the banner on top.

    I'm on PAYG, so I can't confirm how it behaves on Always Free. If I had a Free Tier account, though, and still had a 4 OCPU / 24 GB instance on the old limits, I personally wouldn't scale it down until Oracle clarifies whether the old allocation can be restored after resizing.

  • dbadudedbadude Member

    taking away your previously allocated free resources and then asking money for the missed resources is like stealing candy from a kid and asking money for it if they want it back. Only bankers can think of this, anyway Larry is from the banking kind.

  • @dbadude said:
    taking away your previously allocated free resources and then asking money for the missed resources is like stealing candy from a kid and asking money for it if they want it back. Only bankers can think of this, anyway Larry is from the banking kind.

    In your example, you left out that you gave the kid the candy for free. It might be more like withholding allowance until kid does some chores.

  • dbadudedbadude Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @dbadude said:
    taking away your previously allocated free resources and then asking money for the missed resources is like stealing candy from a kid and asking money for it if they want it back. Only bankers can think of this, anyway Larry is from the banking kind.

    In your example, you left out that you gave the kid the candy for free. It might be more like withholding allowance until kid does some chores.

    Yes correct, Oracle gave the candy and then take half away and then asking money for it, if they want it back, for the 'always free' candy. Oracle licensing world is similar, with their java runtimes.. Omg. Stay away like the plague.

  • EdiEdi Member
    edited July 1

    July 1st Oracle notification on a PAYG account:
    https://i.postimg.cc/CK0j1TDK/PAYG.jpg

    They say paid resources are not affected, but isn't Ampere A1 4c/24 a free resource ?

    And also, the block volume storage now states : 2 block volumes, up to 200 GB. Is this 2 block volumes a new limit ? I don't recall having this limit, only the 200 GB limit.

    edit: I think the 2 volumes limit is only for block volumes and not for boot volumes ...

    https://i.postimg.cc/Kj92K2R2/block-volume.jpg

  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member
    edited July 1

    There was def a limit of 200Gb but i am not sure whether for boot and block. I am actually being charged for Storage (i think) more than I was charged in the past, so need to check it. I only have boot volumes.

    I think free or not free may relate to the account - free or PAYG

  • @dbadude said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @dbadude said:
    taking away your previously allocated free resources and then asking money for the missed resources is like stealing candy from a kid and asking money for it if they want it back. Only bankers can think of this, anyway Larry is from the banking kind.

    In your example, you left out that you gave the kid the candy for free. It might be more like withholding allowance until kid does some chores.

    Yes correct, Oracle gave the candy and then take half away and then asking money for it, if they want it back, for the 'always free' candy. Oracle licensing world is similar, with their java runtimes.. Omg. Stay away like the plague.

    No, it still isn't FFS. No kid holds onto candy indefinitely; this is monthly candy. Instead of four lollipops they only get two on the 1st of the month from now on.

    And really, they haven't reclaimed any resources.

  • leang97leang97 Member

    Old PayG oracle account here since 2023. Allocated 4/24 all the way back since I created this account. Didnt know that there is this changes until now, panics go and check billing section, still shows 0.00 so far (calmed), so I think that its true that there will be "no changes" for billing structure for old PayG account. Lets see for July....

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  • @TimboJones said:

    @dbadude said:
    taking away your previously allocated free resources and then asking money for the missed resources is like stealing candy from a kid and asking money for it if they want it back. Only bankers can think of this, anyway Larry is from the banking kind.

    In your example, you left out that you gave the kid the candy for free. It might be more like withholding allowance until kid does some chores.

    After doing that they should stop calling it "always free" should they not?

  • @stable_genius said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @dbadude said:
    taking away your previously allocated free resources and then asking money for the missed resources is like stealing candy from a kid and asking money for it if they want it back. Only bankers can think of this, anyway Larry is from the banking kind.

    In your example, you left out that you gave the kid the candy for free. It might be more like withholding allowance until kid does some chores.

    After doing that they should stop calling it "always free" should they not?

    In fact they did! My x86 instances are still called "always free", my ARM has been renamed to "always free eligible" in the OCI. However they shouldn't have named it "always free" in the first place, since we all know now, that "always" just ended.

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