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  • forghaniforghani Member
    edited June 27

    one of the things deluxhost should do is to suspend accounts of those who abuse/disrupt the service by runnign malware ddos, brute force port scan phishing mail botnets etc. pls consider these @DeluxHost

  • LebboLebbo Member

    Are we expecting another two weeks of dead servers ?

  • ChomsChoms Member

    @forghani said:
    one of the things deluxhost should do is to suspend accounts of those who abuse/disrupt the service by runnign malware ddos, brute force port scan phishing mail botnets etc. pls consider these @DeluxHost

    inb4 the DDoS was coming from within DH all along lol

  • @Gerrit said:

    @sbrivius said:
    certainly there are tickets with people complaining on the billing, but people know us
    and know they can count on us

    Are you sure about that? Yes... I am one of the people you have been ignoring for a week. You ignored my previous request for a refund and cancellation, something that isn't possible because you apparently think it's normal to invoice and automatically debit well over 1.5 months in advance so that it has to be resolved via a ticket.

    You know, that ticket that can't be opened as long as a technical ticket is open because you limit the maximum number per customer to one, and a bug makes it impossible to close the ticket.

    In other words, it's nice that you say all that, but for now, I can't really trust you... the only feeling and impression I've gotten is that you take a damn long time to do everything, constantly asking for patience and demanding respect, while eventually you just completely ignore me (and a number of other customers)!

    So... speaking of good service, just answer your customers via tickets and make it possible for tickets to be closed and reopened to, for example, finance for a refund.

    DeluxHost said:
    All funds are used for redundancy systems as we have demonstrated today, if you think we will get rich with these offers you are wrong

    Well... if people aren't satisfied... they're paying for nothing, then it is indeed easy money to make and get rich, and it is investing with money from dissatisfied customers who would rather have their money back than be screwed over.

    You guys have your WHMCS/PayPal renewal set way too early. I have a service until August 22nd, 2026 but an invoice was generated and auto paid via PayPal on yesterday June 26, 2026, that's 2 months early! It should maybe be 2 weeks early not 2 months! It's one thing to issue an invoice early but taking the payment 2 months before it is due is crazy!

    Thanked by 1Gerrit
  • @JohnnySac said:

    @Gerrit said:

    @sbrivius said:
    certainly there are tickets with people complaining on the billing, but people know us
    and know they can count on us

    Are you sure about that? Yes... I am one of the people you have been ignoring for a week. You ignored my previous request for a refund and cancellation, something that isn't possible because you apparently think it's normal to invoice and automatically debit well over 1.5 months in advance so that it has to be resolved via a ticket.

    You know, that ticket that can't be opened as long as a technical ticket is open because you limit the maximum number per customer to one, and a bug makes it impossible to close the ticket.

    In other words, it's nice that you say all that, but for now, I can't really trust you... the only feeling and impression I've gotten is that you take a damn long time to do everything, constantly asking for patience and demanding respect, while eventually you just completely ignore me (and a number of other customers)!

    So... speaking of good service, just answer your customers via tickets and make it possible for tickets to be closed and reopened to, for example, finance for a refund.

    DeluxHost said:
    All funds are used for redundancy systems as we have demonstrated today, if you think we will get rich with these offers you are wrong

    Well... if people aren't satisfied... they're paying for nothing, then it is indeed easy money to make and get rich, and it is investing with money from dissatisfied customers who would rather have their money back than be screwed over.

    You guys have your WHMCS/PayPal renewal set way too early. I have a service until August 22nd, 2026 but an invoice was generated and auto paid via PayPal on yesterday June 26, 2026, that's 2 months early! It should maybe be 2 weeks early not 2 months! It's one thing to issue an invoice early but taking the payment 2 months before it is due is crazy!

    They're also charging me two months early, but I requested a refund ! They were supposed to fix it, but it seems they're in the best interest of it..

    Thanked by 2JohnnySac Gerrit
  • LebboLebbo Member

    Is there any chance of bringing the server back to life sooner than two weeks ?

  • GerritGerrit Member

    @GhostInTheRack said:
    They're also charging me two months early, but I requested a refund ! They were supposed to fix it, but it seems they're in the best interest of it..

    When I raised this in a ticket with the "Technical" department (due to something else), the owner (Matteo Martelloni) asked me to create a new ticket with the Sales/Finance department.

    Of course, that wasn't possible, because not only are customers only allowed to have one ticket open, but closing the existing (Technical) ticket was also impossible.

    In other words, their entire ticket system is as buggy as it gets, making it impossible to request a refund if you have already opened a ticket. By now, the notification and confirmation that there is a ticket system bug dates back to June 18, and there is already some earlier information about the same issue in various topics here on LET.

    All eyes of DeluxHost are on mitigating the DDOS attacks, working on the firewall and enjoying soccer with a lot of bottles of beer (most of the time) and thus ignoring all other issues going on.

    Thanked by 1JohnnySac
  • LebboLebbo Member

    @DeluxHost I suggest you come up with a new, more believable excuse for your degraded servers, because only idiots who have no clue about the cost and resources required for such an attack ever bought that nonsense about a DDoS attack on a low-end provider. The abnormal heatwave in Europe would be way more plausible. There's just one catch: you'll need to explain why everything fell apart only at your end, while other providers are still working fine. But I'm sure you'll manage to come up with something for that too )

  • codeandsoldercodeandsolder Member
    edited June 27

    Could you fix clicking on the logo on the Configure page opening the image instead of the front page (which as far as I can see there's no way to do currently)? I did it twice already lol

  • bchotbchot Member

    @Gerrit said:

    @Calypso said:

    I don't think we differ in opinion about and experience with this provider

    True on that.

    @Calypso said:
    I only wanted to point out that - even though they communicate a lot

    They say a lot, but what they say is the same as the quality of the service ;)

    IPv4 (1min checks - updates automaticly)

    IPv6 (1min checks - updates automaticly)

    And here we go again, yet another reboot so IPv6 will come up. I have never experienced this sort of service, quality etc. in 28 years.

    i think, if in 28 years you haven't learned to stay away from cheaper options - it's on you.. i can only boast 22 years of renting servers though, and i have 9 VPS with DeluxHost, so what do i know?

  • LebboLebbo Member

    This crappy company claims 99% uptime, but in reality it's all downtime. Unbelievably garbage service.

  • LebboLebbo Member

    The servers are completely dead, yet they're still selling them. Unbelievable cynicism.

  • LebboLebbo Member

    What on earth are these piece-of-shit servers actually useful for? Who needs uptime that's one week on, two weeks off? This is an absolute goddamn nightmare

  • LebboLebbo Member

    Support has never provided a single reasonable response, and now they're just flat-out ignoring users altogether

  • LebboLebbo Member

    What is the logic behind charging for services that, in practice, have not been delivered at all — not for hours, not for days, but for weeks ?

  • LebboLebbo Member

    My paid server is down again — and this is constant. Fake uptime, dead hardware still being sold, useless support, weeks of outage. I've never left a Trustpilot review, but this time I have to.

  • GerritGerrit Member

    @bchot said:
    i think, if in 28 years you haven't learned to stay away from cheaper options - it's on you.. i can only boast 22 years of renting servers though, and i have 9 VPS with DeluxHost, so what do i know?

    First of all, it depends what service you order, what do you expect when you order a regular service from their site instead of taking one of their LEB/LET services? Just guess, you will have the same issues as those servers are within the same infrastructure. So it doesn't matter how much you pay with DeluxHost. It's even within most businesses that offer LEB/LET offers.

    Second, the price doesn't say anything. I know (a side of the specifications and low cost) that there are quite a few businesses around on LEB/LET who are trustworthy and that have not dissapointed many of their customers. Their service even go further than what I have noticed in a month time with DeluxHost.

    Sure I don't have to expect any professional service for any of the prices but a few of them really do offer that.

    Thanked by 1Choms
  • ChomsChoms Member

    @Gerrit said:

    @bchot said:
    i think, if in 28 years you haven't learned to stay away from cheaper options - it's on you.. i can only boast 22 years of renting servers though, and i have 9 VPS with DeluxHost, so what do i know?

    Sure I don't have to expect any professional service for any of the prices but a few of them really do offer that.

    honestly I disagree with this line, I do expect a professional service from any professional offering... I'm not renting a server from my 14yo niece... the price could not matter less

    if you advertise a service with certain characteristics, that is what I expect to receive, anything else is false advertisement, plain and simple - and if some company cannot do simple math to put up a sensible pricing they can support, that is neither my problem nor my concern as a consumer

  • edited June 28

  • honestly I disagree with this line, I do expect a professional service from any professional offering... I'm not renting a server from my 14yo niece... the price could not matter less

    if you advertise a service with certain characteristics, that is what I expect to receive, anything else is false advertisement, plain and simple - and if some company cannot do simple math to put up a sensible pricing they can support, that is neither my problem nor my concern as a consumer

    Very well written :)

    Thanked by 2buggedout Choms
  • greksoftgreksoft Member

    Their ticket system is broken and doesn't let you open a new one if an older one exists (it doesn't let you close the older one either).

    Does LET have any moderation/admins? I don't want to call this a scam but it's getting there.

  • sbriviussbrivius Member

    @DeluxHost said:
    the white message was due to a temporary bug that other people encountered and that has been fixed

    It wasn't fixed at the time, and that's not my fault. And again, with emails also containing blank replies and an evergreen status page, I had no clue of that.

    @DeluxHost said:
    if you read the customer area you could understand what happened as the warning is clearly visible, and what we are doing to resolve it, as you yourself posted

    Do you mean the Service Status Update banner at the top of the page? The one that states "attacks have been successfully mitigated and the situation is currently under control", and also "no action is required from customers"? Am I (a customer from less than a day, at the time) in charge of being aware of the problems affecting your systems more than you are? Am I also supposed to just accept it and be satisfied with your best-effort approach of yours?

    @DeluxHost said:
    I don't see any problem with how the situation was handled

    This is where the real problem lies. You should just acknowledge your responsibility for what happened, apologize and not complain about request of refund of a non functioning service from the start. Instead, you keep justifying yourself and expect customers to put up with everything.

    If you expect this level of patience and indulgence from your customers, than be clear about it when you advertise your services.

  • GerritGerrit Member
    edited June 28

    @Choms said:
    honestly I disagree with this line, I do expect a professional service from any professional offering... I'm not renting a server from my 14yo niece... the price could not matter less

    Let me correct what I indicated/meant:

    You have the standard service, so the service specifications, and based on that, the quality can be lower. DeluxHost simply adds a extra by creating additional expectations:

    • "Experience the Delux treatment"
    • "99.9% uptime"
    • "Support responses within 1 hour"
    • "24/7 DDoS protection"

    These statements contribute to customers being allowed to expect more in terms of service from DeluxHost, which contributes to the fact that it doesn't matter whether you pay €18.00 per year or €18.000.00 per year. They promise things they cannot deliver, with all the consequences that entails.

    Legally, you cannot and may not make these statements if you, as a company, cannot meet them. In EU consumer law, this is also known as misleading customers.

    Personally, I assume that at such a low price, you shouldn't expect too much. But when I look at DeluxHost's competitors, there are certainly companies active on LET that do indeed provide professional service and quality for next to nothing.

    For DeluxHost itself, however, this is no reason to indicate in comments that you shouldn't complain that the service and quality are commensurate with the price, since they themselves created those expectations through their (by now proven) misleading advertisements.

    And for Matteo @DeluxHost

    Istituto dell'Autodisciplina Pubblicitaria

    Art. 1 – Lealtà della comunicazione commerciale
    La comunicazione commerciale deve essere onesta, veritiera e corretta. Essa deve evitare tutto ciò che possa screditarla.

    Art. 2 – Comunicazione commerciale ingannevole
    La comunicazione commerciale deve evitare ogni dichiarazione o rappresentazione che sia tale da indurre in errore i consumatori, anche per mezzo di omissioni, ambiguità o esagerazioni non palesemente iperboliche, specie per quanto riguarda le caratteristiche e gli effetti del prodotto, il prezzo, la gratuità, le condizioni di vendita, la diffusione, l’identità delle persone rappresentate, i premi o riconoscimenti.

    Nel valutare l’ingannevolezza della comunicazione commerciale si assume come parametro il consumatore medio del gruppo di riferimento.

    ..........................

    Translated:

    Art. 1 – Honesty of commercial communication
    Commercial communication must be honest, truthful, and correct. It must avoid anything that could bring it into disrepute.

    Art. 2 – Misleading Commercial Communication
    Commercial communication must avoid any statement or representation that could mislead consumers, including through omissions, ambiguities, or non-obviously hyperbolic exaggerations, especially regarding product characteristics and effects, price, free offers, terms of sale, distribution, the identity of the persons represented, and prizes or awards.

    In assessing the misleading nature of commercial communication, the average consumer in the target group is used as a benchmark.

    Art. 3 – Terminology, Quotations, Technical and Scientific Evidence, Statistical Data
    Terminology, quotations, and references to technical and scientific evidence must be used appropriately. Technical and scientific evidence and statistical data with limited validity must not be presented in a manner that would appear to have unlimited validity.

    Art. 5 – Guarantees
    Mandatory guarantees may not be communicated in a manner that suggests their content is greater or different from that of the mandatory guarantees.

    When guarantees greater or different from those provided are communicated, the marketing communication must specify the content and terms of the guarantee offered, or provide a concise but meaningful description of the guarantee, along with a link to written information sources available at the point of sale or included with the product.

    Thanked by 2Choms sbrivius
  • LebboLebbo Member
    edited June 28

    Matteo looks a bit ragged, although he sometimes replies in LET with vigor and fierce optimism, despite the whole clusterfuck of the situation )
    Overall, the picture is reflected with Juveler-like precision

  • @Lebbo said:

    Matteo looks a bit ragged, although he sometimes replies in LET with vigor and fierce optimism, despite the whole clusterfuck of the situation )
    Overall, the picture is reflected with Juveler-like precision

    I don't think the image is very realistic. It is too negative.There should be a positive status page with green lights spreading optimism and showing the 100% uptime of all systems!

  • LebboLebbo Member

    Could you correct this pic to the 100% online status in the control user panel ?

  • LebboLebbo Member

    We needs some green lights )

  • zephyr32zephyr32 Member

    I would never believe that I would ever let a 6.99/year go without a second thought...

  • CalypsoCalypso Member

    @DeluxHost said:

    Furthermore, the compensation isn't the one you received, but there will be another one that will be communicated via email as mentioned by Sunday.

    Wondering which Sunday this is supposed to be. "Next Sunday" I think? Cause the first Sunday following this reply has passed.

    Well, I did receive a completely empty response on the (still open) ticket...

  • sbriviussbrivius Member

    @Calypso said: Well, I did receive a completely empty response on the (still open) ticket...

    That's impossible, they said they already fixed it!!!

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