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Toheebd · June 7

@DeluxHost said:

@Toheebd said:

@Calypso said:
Deeply, deeple dissatisfied by DeluxHost. They've admitted that they have too much CPU steal and other problems, but they do NOTHING about it.

When complaining, they don't reply to tickets and auto-close them.

Customer service "Deluxe Style" is ignoring customers and structurally overselling. Not recommended at all.

I used deluxhost VPS last year and i enjoyed it at least. Though i experienced server downtime and hardware damage issue last year too but they were able to correct things quickly. What I even like the most is the NEOPROTECT FIREWALL option where you can set your ports to any option you prefer: OPEN, FILTER, CLOSE, ACCEPT. Unfortunately, My experience on their VPS this year is not good enough. I have 3 good W-series VPS from Deluxhost where proxy ports like 80, 8880, 8080 etc are totally unusable on the VPS I can only use port 443. I created series of tickets and my ticket status still stuck on: TICKET ON HOLD for more than 72 hours without any solutions or suggestions or response from the support. I bought new F-SERIES from this ongoing offer here few days ago. Both my newly purchased F-Series and the old F-SERIES where port 80 etc are working fine for me just started bootable-unbootable-bootable-Unbootable error yesterday. Since yesterday the F-SERIES too have turned to crap that I can't even do any operation on it. Now I have more than 6 DELUXHOST VPS only 1 Germany F-series of it is 90% efficient and reliable. What I hate the most about deluxhost is how their support not always rendering quality assistance and most times not responsive for many days. Most times I will have to follow their representative here on lowendtalk before my tickets will be responded.

Hello,

For this we are waiting PletX, the upstream, for check it, i know your ticket, don't worry and i'm sorry for the delay.

This should be solved in 24 hours, you can always send me a dm, i try to help everyone how i can.

I understand you are really trying especially here on this forum to help deluxhost users out. I commend your efforts sir but please and please the port 80, 8880, 8080 are very essential in my VPN connection. Though they are working fine on my D-SERIES AND F-SERIES except the fluctuation THE F-SERIES started since yesterday which I didn't know that it affected multiple subscribers here until I read through the messages on this post. My favorite SERIES so far is the GERMANY D-SERIES. Consider bringing more of the Germany D-series in your feature adverts here. One more thing I have never received the bonus upgrade on any of my VPS so far. I requested for 1 core upgrade on my new F-SERIES but I didn't see it added till now as usual. That PLETx is not good for your VPS at all. Anywhere I see PletX on your VPS adverts I will pick my race immediately 🤣🤣. If possible change the PletX to basic on all my VPS

DeluxHost · June 7

@Lebbo said:
The real problem — ignored for weeks:
Every time this VPS goes down — and it goes down frequently — it does not recover on its own. It fails to find a boot device and sits dead until I log into the dashboard and manually press "Reboot." Not once. Not twice. Every single time. This is 100% reproducible, and I have over ten tickets documenting it.

I believe this is the case with the problems already announced via email some time ago, for which a migration had to be done, and for which it is also written on the status page. The problems of the last few days certainly have not helped, but I assure you that we will resolve them.

DeluxHost · June 7

@Grolfcry said:
Two days since I made order and I mostly cannot connect to server (now it is unavailable again) . Delux, can you explain current situation with outage? Or maybe it's time to make refund if you cannot guarantee vps stable working , can you refund if it was the crypto payment?

Everything is already explained on the statue page and you can also find our answers here. I'm obviously sorry and we are still monitoring the situation and trying to resolve where possible. I assure you that within some hours the problem will be 100% resolved, and we will send an email explaining what happened.

I can't give a precise time because it depends on GSL and other factors as already mentioned, but we are doing our best.

DeluxHost · June 7

@Toheebd said:

@DeluxHost said:

@Toheebd said:

@Calypso said:
Deeply, deeple dissatisfied by DeluxHost. They've admitted that they have too much CPU steal and other problems, but they do NOTHING about it.

When complaining, they don't reply to tickets and auto-close them.

Customer service "Deluxe Style" is ignoring customers and structurally overselling. Not recommended at all.

I used deluxhost VPS last year and i enjoyed it at least. Though i experienced server downtime and hardware damage issue last year too but they were able to correct things quickly. What I even like the most is the NEOPROTECT FIREWALL option where you can set your ports to any option you prefer: OPEN, FILTER, CLOSE, ACCEPT. Unfortunately, My experience on their VPS this year is not good enough. I have 3 good W-series VPS from Deluxhost where proxy ports like 80, 8880, 8080 etc are totally unusable on the VPS I can only use port 443. I created series of tickets and my ticket status still stuck on: TICKET ON HOLD for more than 72 hours without any solutions or suggestions or response from the support. I bought new F-SERIES from this ongoing offer here few days ago. Both my newly purchased F-Series and the old F-SERIES where port 80 etc are working fine for me just started bootable-unbootable-bootable-Unbootable error yesterday. Since yesterday the F-SERIES too have turned to crap that I can't even do any operation on it. Now I have more than 6 DELUXHOST VPS only 1 Germany F-series of it is 90% efficient and reliable. What I hate the most about deluxhost is how their support not always rendering quality assistance and most times not responsive for many days. Most times I will have to follow their representative here on lowendtalk before my tickets will be responded.

Hello,

For this we are waiting PletX, the upstream, for check it, i know your ticket, don't worry and i'm sorry for the delay.

This should be solved in 24 hours, you can always send me a dm, i try to help everyone how i can.

I understand you are really trying especially here on this forum to help deluxhost users out. I commend your efforts sir but please and please the port 80, 8880, 8080 are very essential in my VPN connection. Though they are working fine on my D-SERIES AND F-SERIES except the fluctuation THE F-SERIES started since yesterday which I didn't know that it affected multiple subscribers here until I read through the messages on this post. My favorite SERIES so far is the GERMANY D-SERIES. Consider bringing more of the Germany D-series in your feature adverts here. One more thing I have never received the bonus upgrade on any of my VPS so far. I requested for 1 core upgrade on my new F-SERIES but I didn't see it added till now as usual. That PLETx is not good for your VPS at all. Anywhere I see PletX on your VPS adverts I will pick my race immediately 🤣🤣. If possible change the PletX to basic on all my VPS

I completely understand, and you're right. Thank you for your kind words.

We've reached out to them again for assistance with your case. As mentioned, we hope to resolve it soon. Don't worry. Unfortunately, the issues of the last 48 hours haven't helped, as you can imagine. 😅

Nice69420 · June 8

Order Number: 3203969082

Finally up for me to set up! I'll get an extra free CPU core if you still have them spare

sergpalm · June 8

Z and f servers did not work during two days. What's going on? When i could connect to them?

bbn12 · June 8

up and crawling for over a day..but the CPU STEAL is highest I have ever seen ... constantly 50-70+... load I generate ~30%. shell works with delays, sometimes hangs for 5secs or more. probably super oversold

%Cpu(s): 10.5 us, 1.6 sy, 0.0 ni, 17.8 id, 2.4 wa, 0.0 hi, 3.0 si, 64.7 st

%Cpu(s): 1.7 us, 1.7 sy, 0.0 ni, 20.3 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 76.3 st

%Cpu(s): 1.5 us, 1.3 sy, 0.0 ni, 47.2 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2 si, 49.8 st

Lebbo · June 8

Not only did the VPS get stuck with a "no bootable device" status, but now the control panel has also frozen while trying to reboot it.

l0ser140 · June 8

Servers from Z-offer are affected by severe stability difficulties for almost 3 days. In fact they are simply inaccessible during this time

Servers keep flapping, at the same time "All Systems Operational" on the status page.

seyed · June 8

Offer N - still is down and cant reboot or boot it

SV_Nick · June 8

We down again?

We're back again!

Gerrit · June 8

All offer-servers are affected by the DDos attack, cause it's a DDos attack which is going on from time to time... as they mentioned at https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4806704/#Comment_4806704

nekomikoreimu · June 8

Order Number: 5783599565
Order Number: 1870762501

Thanks mate

millo · June 8

@deafcon said:

@millo said:

@DeluxHost said:

@millo said:

@DeluxHost said:

@millo said:
I bought this VPS just over two months ago, and I've already experienced two severe outages.

The first time, I let it slide – thought it was just bad luck. But now the second outage is even worse: it's still not resolved, and they can't even give a proper ETA.

I tried reinstalling the OS – didn't help. I contacted support. They're always very polite: "Thank you for your patience", "We are actively working on it" – all the right words, every time. But here's the thing: polite doesn't fix the server. The problem is still there, and I still can't log in.

So let me get this straight – in just two months, you've managed to prove, with back‑to‑back long outages, just how "reliable" your service really is.

I'm done trusting this kind of stability. To anyone considering this provider: think twice. Don't make the same mistake I did.

I think you're referring to the first outage when our datacenter went completely offline, something we can't do anything about. Serious or significant issues like this are extremely rare, so I still don't understand what you're referring to.

Our recent uptime, beyond the datacenter and other small issues, has always been stable.

If you think you're tired of this downtime and another one in April, I'm sorry, and I hope you find better.

I need to correct a few things in your reply.
First, you said the first outage was because "your datacenter went completely offline" – that's still your problem as the service provider. If a datacenter you chose fails, the responsibility doesn't magically disappear. I paid you for a working VPS, not the datacenter.
Second, you claim such serious issues are "extremely rare" – yet within just two months (including April and now), I have experienced two major outages. The current one is still ongoing, and I still cannot log in even after reinstalling the OS. That is not "extremely rare" by any reasonable standard.
Third, you say your recent uptime has "always been stable" – but my VPS is down right now as we speak. How is that stable?
Your support team has been polite, I admit that. But politeness does not fix downtime. You have offered no compensation, no solution, and now you are blaming the datacenter instead of taking responsibility.
If you truly think a customer expecting basic stability should "find better", then I will. And I will also share my experience so others can make an informed choice

Now, responding to both you and @Calypso , I can say that you're right. We're certainly also responsible, but understand that in some cases, if the data center is without power for 9 hours, there's not much I can do other than call them and send someone to speak to us in person. Unfortunately, we're very unlucky, but that doesn't mean yesterday's incident isn't still 100% resolved, and that remains absolutely our responsibility and fault.

We're doing everything we can to isolate it, but we're not completely successful.

Once everything is back online and stable, we'll send an email within 24 hours explaining everything and the chain of events that occurred.

But I repeat, leaving aside these two incidents, I have not seen any other incidents of this magnitude in the past or that in any case make me seriously doubt the stability on a general level. We have always resolved every issue or problem that has been reported to us at the network level, I'm talking about.

Thank you for admitting responsibility – that's a start.
Then you say "aside from these two incidents, I have not seen any other incidents of this magnitude". But two major outages in just over two months is already unacceptable. You can't dismiss them as unlucky exceptions and then claim general stability. For a service I pay for, even two such incidents in such a short time prove unreliability.
If you truly stand behind your service's stability, you would offer a concrete compensation – such as a configuration upgrade or extended service time – to rebuild trust. Words and future emails are cheap. Actions matter.
I expect a clear proposal from you. Otherwise, I will proceed with a refund request and a PayPal dispute, and I will share my experience so others know what to expect.

I agree with your thoughts on their failings and responsibilities, but dang. You're going to war over this shit. Refund request & a Paypal dispute? You trying to double here? Make some money on the deal? Also, it doesn't really help to threaten to share your experience when you're already calling them out publicly and their reputation is so bad already. Look, they are literally in the midst of a massive outage and people are still gobbling up their garbage. Reputation doesn't mean shit when you're the price leader apparently.

I understand your point, but let me clarify: a refund or PayPal dispute is not about making money. It's about getting my own money back for a service that has become unusable due to repeated, extended outages.

There's no "double" here – I paid for a working VPS, and I received an unreliable one. If I ask for a refund, I'm simply undoing the transaction, not profiting from it. I don't want extra money; I just want either a stable service (which they haven't provided) or my original payment back.

As for sharing my experience – I'm not threatening them to hurt their reputation; I'm just being honest about what happened so other potential buyers can make an informed choice. If their reputation is already bad, that's not my problem.

Thanks for your input though.

deafcon · June 8

@millo said:

@deafcon said:

@millo said:

@DeluxHost said:

@millo said:

@DeluxHost said:

@millo said:
I bought this VPS just over two months ago, and I've already experienced two severe outages.

The first time, I let it slide – thought it was just bad luck. But now the second outage is even worse: it's still not resolved, and they can't even give a proper ETA.

I tried reinstalling the OS – didn't help. I contacted support. They're always very polite: "Thank you for your patience", "We are actively working on it" – all the right words, every time. But here's the thing: polite doesn't fix the server. The problem is still there, and I still can't log in.

So let me get this straight – in just two months, you've managed to prove, with back‑to‑back long outages, just how "reliable" your service really is.

I'm done trusting this kind of stability. To anyone considering this provider: think twice. Don't make the same mistake I did.

I think you're referring to the first outage when our datacenter went completely offline, something we can't do anything about. Serious or significant issues like this are extremely rare, so I still don't understand what you're referring to.

Our recent uptime, beyond the datacenter and other small issues, has always been stable.

If you think you're tired of this downtime and another one in April, I'm sorry, and I hope you find better.

I need to correct a few things in your reply.
First, you said the first outage was because "your datacenter went completely offline" – that's still your problem as the service provider. If a datacenter you chose fails, the responsibility doesn't magically disappear. I paid you for a working VPS, not the datacenter.
Second, you claim such serious issues are "extremely rare" – yet within just two months (including April and now), I have experienced two major outages. The current one is still ongoing, and I still cannot log in even after reinstalling the OS. That is not "extremely rare" by any reasonable standard.
Third, you say your recent uptime has "always been stable" – but my VPS is down right now as we speak. How is that stable?
Your support team has been polite, I admit that. But politeness does not fix downtime. You have offered no compensation, no solution, and now you are blaming the datacenter instead of taking responsibility.
If you truly think a customer expecting basic stability should "find better", then I will. And I will also share my experience so others can make an informed choice

Now, responding to both you and @Calypso , I can say that you're right. We're certainly also responsible, but understand that in some cases, if the data center is without power for 9 hours, there's not much I can do other than call them and send someone to speak to us in person. Unfortunately, we're very unlucky, but that doesn't mean yesterday's incident isn't still 100% resolved, and that remains absolutely our responsibility and fault.

We're doing everything we can to isolate it, but we're not completely successful.

Once everything is back online and stable, we'll send an email within 24 hours explaining everything and the chain of events that occurred.

But I repeat, leaving aside these two incidents, I have not seen any other incidents of this magnitude in the past or that in any case make me seriously doubt the stability on a general level. We have always resolved every issue or problem that has been reported to us at the network level, I'm talking about.

Thank you for admitting responsibility – that's a start.
Then you say "aside from these two incidents, I have not seen any other incidents of this magnitude". But two major outages in just over two months is already unacceptable. You can't dismiss them as unlucky exceptions and then claim general stability. For a service I pay for, even two such incidents in such a short time prove unreliability.
If you truly stand behind your service's stability, you would offer a concrete compensation – such as a configuration upgrade or extended service time – to rebuild trust. Words and future emails are cheap. Actions matter.
I expect a clear proposal from you. Otherwise, I will proceed with a refund request and a PayPal dispute, and I will share my experience so others know what to expect.

I agree with your thoughts on their failings and responsibilities, but dang. You're going to war over this shit. Refund request & a Paypal dispute? You trying to double here? Make some money on the deal? Also, it doesn't really help to threaten to share your experience when you're already calling them out publicly and their reputation is so bad already. Look, they are literally in the midst of a massive outage and people are still gobbling up their garbage. Reputation doesn't mean shit when you're the price leader apparently.

I understand your point, but let me clarify: a refund or PayPal dispute is not about making money. It's about getting my own money back for a service that has become unusable due to repeated, extended outages.

There's no "double" here – I paid for a working VPS, and I received an unreliable one. If I ask for a refund, I'm simply undoing the transaction, not profiting from it. I don't want extra money; I just want either a stable service (which they haven't provided) or my original payment back.

As for sharing my experience – I'm not threatening them to hurt their reputation; I'm just being honest about what happened so other potential buyers can make an informed choice. If their reputation is already bad, that's not my problem.

Thanks for your input though.

I just meant to say that usually you request a refund, and if you don't get it, then you dispute. You normally don't do both at the same time. I agree that you should get what you paid back.

DeluxHost · June 8

I'd like to point out that the servers haven't experienced any further general downtime since last night, just occasional drops and lag spikes. If you experience any issues, please open a ticket or try a reboot.

The situation remains under monitoring, and we don't rule out further fixes in the coming hours to further stabilize everything.

SV_Nick · June 8

@DeluxHost said:
I'd like to point out that the servers haven't experienced any further general downtime since last night, just occasional drops and lag spikes. If you experience any issues, please open a ticket or try a reboot.

The situation remains under monitoring, and we don't rule out further fixes in the coming hours to further stabilize everything.

I submitted a ticket on Friday about the slow I/O on the storage disks but this has still gone unanswered.

krawed21 · June 8

It's very bad when the hoster decides to hide his problems in this way - he closes the general chat and writes non-existent SLA percentages

DeluxHost · June 8

@krawed21 said:
It's very bad when the hoster decides to hide his problems in this way - he closes the general chat and writes non-existent SLA percentages

We're probably not seeing the same things? We've been talking here on the forums and in tickets for two days, and I honestly don't think that's the case sir.

DeluxHost · June 8

@SV_Nick said:

@DeluxHost said:
I'd like to point out that the servers haven't experienced any further general downtime since last night, just occasional drops and lag spikes. If you experience any issues, please open a ticket or try a reboot.

The situation remains under monitoring, and we don't rule out further fixes in the coming hours to further stabilize everything.

I submitted a ticket on Friday about the slow I/O on the storage disks but this has still gone unanswered.

Ticket ID?

krawed21 · June 8

@DeluxHost said:

@krawed21 said:
It's very bad when the hoster decides to hide his problems in this way - he closes the general chat and writes non-existent SLA percentages

We're probably not seeing the same things? We've been talking here on the forums and in tickets for two days, and I honestly don't think that's the case sir.

Why did you close the chat then?

Grolfcry · June 8

The hosting is terribly oversold, launching a simple console application - mc, can lead to work-stealing at 90% and several tens of seconds to launch. For example on F-3 (2vCPU), mostly every run any not cpu-havy apps lead to freezes - ST% current/average:
21:16:18 - 100% - 55.84% 21:16:18 - 71% - 55.98% 21:16:20 - 56% - 55.98% 21:16:20 - 78% - 56.18% 21:16:22 - 37% - 56.01% 21:16:24 - 70% - 56.13% 21:16:24 - 89% - 56.42% 21:16:25 - 68% - 56.52% 21:16:28 - 59% - 56.54% 21:16:28 - 94% - 56.86% 21:16:29 - 96% - 57.18% 21:16:29 - 55% - 57.17% 21:16:32 - 73% - 57.30% 21:16:33 - 99% - 57.64% 21:16:33 - 88% - 57.89% 21:16:38 - 86% - 58.11% 21:16:39 - 70% - 58.21% 21:16:40 - 82% - 58.40%

DeluxHost · June 8

@krawed21 said:

@DeluxHost said:

@krawed21 said:
It's very bad when the hoster decides to hide his problems in this way - he closes the general chat and writes non-existent SLA percentages

We're probably not seeing the same things? We've been talking here on the forums and in tickets for two days, and I honestly don't think that's the case sir.

Why did you close the chat then?

Discord chat is not a support chat, being used incorrectly it is temporarily blocked but will be unblocked soon

DeluxHost · June 8

@Grolfcry said:
The hosting is terribly oversold, launching a simple console application - mc, can lead to work-stealing at 90% and several tens of seconds to launch. For example on F-3 (2vCPU), mostly every run any not cpu-havy apps lead to freezes - ST% current/average:
21:16:18 - 100% - 55.84% 21:16:18 - 71% - 55.98% 21:16:20 - 56% - 55.98% 21:16:20 - 78% - 56.18% 21:16:22 - 37% - 56.01% 21:16:24 - 70% - 56.13% 21:16:24 - 89% - 56.42% 21:16:25 - 68% - 56.52% 21:16:28 - 59% - 56.54% 21:16:28 - 94% - 56.86% 21:16:29 - 96% - 57.18% 21:16:29 - 55% - 57.17% 21:16:32 - 73% - 57.30% 21:16:33 - 99% - 57.64% 21:16:33 - 88% - 57.89% 21:16:38 - 86% - 58.11% 21:16:39 - 70% - 58.21% 21:16:40 - 82% - 58.40%

It's not about overselling or anything else in this case, but some remaining issues from the outage, Although the servers are currently online and working, the server load has remained high and we are fixing it.

dcrypt · June 8

Order Number: 9355985424

+1 vCore would be nice

mustang · June 8

@mustang said:
Order Number: 8148029909
+1 vCore, if possible

humble reminder

Grolfcry · June 8

@DeluxHost said:
Although the servers are currently online and working, the server load has remained high and we are fixing it.

Your monitoring shows that all systems are operating normally, but you claim that the server load is high and that it's affecting the VPS's performance (just as it would be with overbooking). Either your monitoring system isn't trusted, or you aren't. But what difference does it make to me, as a customer, if I haven't been able to use the server for three days since purchasing it and have no up-to-date information about the status of your systems?
I've already requested a refund, and I hope you can at least handle that.

Calypso · June 9

@Grolfcry said:
The hosting is terribly oversold, launching a simple console application - mc, can lead to work-stealing at 90% and several tens of seconds to launch. For example on F-3 (2vCPU), mostly every run any not cpu-havy apps lead to freezes - ST% current/average:

What node are you on?

Just curious, because I'm discussing CPU Steal for quite some time now with DeluxHost. Don't know how it is now, I've turned the VPS (and my monitoring on it) off, and I must say, life is much more relaxed now...

iwaswrongonce · June 9

@DeluxHost said:

@Grolfcry said:
The hosting is terribly oversold, launching a simple console application - mc, can lead to work-stealing at 90% and several tens of seconds to launch. For example on F-3 (2vCPU), mostly every run any not cpu-havy apps lead to freezes - ST% current/average:
21:16:18 - 100% - 55.84% 21:16:18 - 71% - 55.98% 21:16:20 - 56% - 55.98% 21:16:20 - 78% - 56.18% 21:16:22 - 37% - 56.01% 21:16:24 - 70% - 56.13% 21:16:24 - 89% - 56.42% 21:16:25 - 68% - 56.52% 21:16:28 - 59% - 56.54% 21:16:28 - 94% - 56.86% 21:16:29 - 96% - 57.18% 21:16:29 - 55% - 57.17% 21:16:32 - 73% - 57.30% 21:16:33 - 99% - 57.64% 21:16:33 - 88% - 57.89% 21:16:38 - 86% - 58.11% 21:16:39 - 70% - 58.21% 21:16:40 - 82% - 58.40%

It's not about overselling or anything else in this case, but some remaining issues from the outage, Although the servers are currently online and working, the server load has remained high and we are fixing it.

Oh really? What else would cause such high steal from an "outage".

I bought a VPS last week. Running ping 1.1.1.1 causes CPU to soar, and network barely works.

Everyone just chargeback your money and move on.

Who is the next best replacement for this clown?

SwordfishBE · June 9

@iwaswrongonce said:

@DeluxHost said:

@Grolfcry said:
The hosting is terribly oversold, launching a simple console application - mc, can lead to work-stealing at 90% and several tens of seconds to launch. For example on F-3 (2vCPU), mostly every run any not cpu-havy apps lead to freezes - ST% current/average:
21:16:18 - 100% - 55.84% 21:16:18 - 71% - 55.98% 21:16:20 - 56% - 55.98% 21:16:20 - 78% - 56.18% 21:16:22 - 37% - 56.01% 21:16:24 - 70% - 56.13% 21:16:24 - 89% - 56.42% 21:16:25 - 68% - 56.52% 21:16:28 - 59% - 56.54% 21:16:28 - 94% - 56.86% 21:16:29 - 96% - 57.18% 21:16:29 - 55% - 57.17% 21:16:32 - 73% - 57.30% 21:16:33 - 99% - 57.64% 21:16:33 - 88% - 57.89% 21:16:38 - 86% - 58.11% 21:16:39 - 70% - 58.21% 21:16:40 - 82% - 58.40%

It's not about overselling or anything else in this case, but some remaining issues from the outage, Although the servers are currently online and working, the server load has remained high and we are fixing it.

Oh really? What else would cause such high steal from an "outage".

I bought a VPS last week. Running ping 1.1.1.1 causes CPU to soar, and network barely works.

Everyone just chargeback your money and move on.

Who is the next best replacement for this clown?

Overselling or abusive neighborhood. And it is probably both. The only way to make a profit with such ridiculously low prices is massive overselling. I expect that if Deluxhost doesn't change its business model, they won't be around within a year.

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