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Introducing ServerVerify: built with the LowEndTalk community in mind

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  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh something weird happening here - the second one is the one i submitted - the top one is the version i posted on LET that got scraped, I guess - has the wrong provider and half the score, but they're the same YABS? The cpu score also changes between providers from an a to a b, even though its identical in the geekbench?

    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/4399458d-d343-4a87-990d-adef1abc2387
    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/f46a56ce-44e9-4e03-bab7-935b78e8ca74

    average server verify "manually verified" review

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @forest said:
    Is YABS data entered manually or is it automatically parsed? In other words, what would happen if a YABS report were to contain homoglyphs, reverse text using RTL unicode to correct it, and other such techniques that make it render normally despite being a mess for parsers?

    We have an automation layer to parsing YABS but every single report that gets published is reviewed and approved by the ServerVerify admin team to ensure data integrity.

    So you're saying you really love it a lot when i go through my entire fleet of VPS' and run yabs one after another!?!?

    I am the primary approver. I love seeing the activity. :)

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @jsg said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @forest said:
    Is YABS data entered manually or is it automatically parsed? In other words, what would happen if a YABS report were to contain homoglyphs, reverse text using RTL unicode to correct it, and other such techniques that make it render normally despite being a mess for parsers?

    We have an automation layer to parsing YABS but every single report that gets published is reviewed and approved by the ServerVerify admin team to ensure data integrity.

    Which LET users/mods/admins are in the ServerVerify admin team?

    It's the same helpdesk backend when it comes to support tickets and contact forms.

    With benchmark approvals I am the one doing most of them right now.

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh something weird happening here - the second one is the one i submitted - the top one is the version i posted on LET that got scraped, I guess - has the wrong provider and half the score, but they're the same YABS? The cpu score also changes between providers from an a to a b, even though its identical in the geekbench?

    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/4399458d-d343-4a87-990d-adef1abc2387
    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/f46a56ce-44e9-4e03-bab7-935b78e8ca74

    I am looking into this right now. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @beanman109 said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh something weird happening here - the second one is the one i submitted - the top one is the version i posted on LET that got scraped, I guess - has the wrong provider and half the score, but they're the same YABS? The cpu score also changes between providers from an a to a b, even though its identical in the geekbench?

    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/4399458d-d343-4a87-990d-adef1abc2387
    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/f46a56ce-44e9-4e03-bab7-935b78e8ca74

    average server verify "manually verified" review

    Seems we have a bug here, working to fix that now.

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @jbiloh said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh something weird happening here - the second one is the one i submitted - the top one is the version i posted on LET that got scraped, I guess - has the wrong provider and half the score, but they're the same YABS? The cpu score also changes between providers from an a to a b, even though its identical in the geekbench?

    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/4399458d-d343-4a87-990d-adef1abc2387
    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/f46a56ce-44e9-4e03-bab7-935b78e8ca74

    I am looking into this right now. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    This has been fixed.

    Thank you for pointing out this bug to us.

    Thanked by 2AlteredParadox oloke
  • zejjntzejjnt Member

    Suggestion; when viewing reviews and sorting by highest it would make more sense (to me) to sort by number of reviews rather than alphabetic order of provider name.
    Grouping reviews for each provider and using a modal or similar to expand and show the individual reviews would also make it much more practical.

  • @jbiloh another one for ya:
    Mine: https://serververify.com/benchmarks/79930742-6ea8-48f4-87ea-68670917f0b5
    Scraped: https://serververify.com/benchmarks/79930742-6ea8-48f4-87ea-68670917f0b5

    They're certainly not drastically different, 12.5 vs 12.6, but again - if its the exact same data, should it not have the exact same score?

    Also, it seems a little silly to have LET scrapes that are identical to submissions in the first place - is there some way to compare the yabs results themselves, and if something identical already exists discard the scrape? Or maybe make the scrape wait a bit before posting and then do said check, if the scrape is happening before the serververify submission gets approved?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh another one for ya:
    Mine: https://serververify.com/benchmarks/79930742-6ea8-48f4-87ea-68670917f0b5
    Scraped: https://serververify.com/benchmarks/79930742-6ea8-48f4-87ea-68670917f0b5

    They're certainly not drastically different, 12.5 vs 12.6, but again - if its the exact same data, should it not have the exact same score?

    Also, it seems a little silly to have LET scrapes that are identical to submissions in the first place - is there some way to compare the yabs results themselves, and if something identical already exists discard the scrape? Or maybe make the scrape wait a bit before posting and then do said check, if the scrape is happening before the serververify submission gets approved?

    Looking into this one now.

    Thanked by 1AlteredParadox
  • Does this mean I win? I guess I can stop uploading benchmarks now. :joy:

    Thanked by 2rpqu tentor
  • Congrats on the launch, Jon! It’s about time we had a centralized 'source of truth' for benchmarks instead of digging through years of forum pages.

    One quick question regarding the data: will there be a 'Recency Filter'? Since providers often cycle their hardware, it would be great to see results specifically from the last 3-6 months. This would prevent legacy E5-Xeon scores from skewing the averages for their newer Ryzen or EPYC deployments. Any plans for that?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @AlteredParadox said:

    Does this mean I win? I guess I can stop uploading benchmarks now. :joy:

    Awesome! Congrats.

    You should win a prize as our first to that level.

    Send me your PayPal address for a little gift!

    Any suggestions for higher tiers?

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @brainjava said:
    Congrats on the launch, Jon! It’s about time we had a centralized 'source of truth' for benchmarks instead of digging through years of forum pages.

    One quick question regarding the data: will there be a 'Recency Filter'? Since providers often cycle their hardware, it would be great to see results specifically from the last 3-6 months. This would prevent legacy E5-Xeon scores from skewing the averages for their newer Ryzen or EPYC deployments. Any plans for that?

    This is an excellent suggestion, thank you.

    Would you like to see a time filter or a check box or some other presentation for this concept?

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • @jbiloh said:

    @AlteredParadox said:

    Does this mean I win? I guess I can stop uploading benchmarks now. :joy:

    Awesome! Congrats.

    You should win a prize as our first to that level.

    Send me your PayPal address for a little gift!

    Any suggestions for higher tiers?

    I'm terrible at naming things, but based on the current tiers, Claude came up with: 500+ Legendary Contributor, 750+ Mythic Contributor, 1000+ Benchmark Titan, and I like it.

  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @jbiloh said:

    @AlteredParadox said:

    Does this mean I win? I guess I can stop uploading benchmarks now. :joy:

    Awesome! Congrats.

    You should win a prize as our first to that level.

    Send me your PayPal address for a little gift!

    @BilohBucks will be promptly transferred <3

    btw @jbiloh i kinda like this leaderboard o:)

    image

    hope it will stay this way for long

    Thanked by 1AlteredParadox
  • rpqurpqu Member

    @oloke said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @AlteredParadox said:

    Does this mean I win? I guess I can stop uploading benchmarks now. :joy:

    Awesome! Congrats.

    You should win a prize as our first to that level.

    Send me your PayPal address for a little gift!

    @BilohBucks will be promptly transferred <3

    btw @jbiloh i kinda like this leaderboard o:)

    image

    hope it will stay this way for long

    I kneel @onidel .

    There's still room for improvement, though

    Rankings
    Metric Overall Grade
    Overall Score Top 0.02% a
    CPU Top 17.5% a
    Disk Top 0.01% a
    Network Top 56% d

  • @jbiloh said:
    Hi Everyone,

    We’re excited to share that ServerVerify, a new platform created to track hosting provider reviews and benchmarks, will launch publicly on Monday, September 15.

    ServerVerify makes it easy to:

    • Track the Leaderboard to see what hosts are performing best
    • See YABS benchmarks linked directly to each provider
    • Compare providers with reviews from the community
    • Spot verified coupons and deals
    • Explore enhanced connections between LowEndTalk, LowEndBox, and ServerVerify

    Soon hosts featured on LowEndBox will have their offers measured by ServerVerify as a way to promote improved performance for the end user. We hope to see the same theme happen naturally at LowEndTalk.

    Behind the scenes, we’ve added features like provider replies to reviews, benchmark reporting, and a faster system overall, making sure the data you see is clean and trustworthy all thanks to the feedback from LowEndTalk hosting providers the past few weeks.

    We built this platform with the LowEndTalk community at its core, and your input, benchmarks, and reviews are what make it valuable. Once live, we encourage you to log in, explore, and share your feedback.

    So checkout ServerVerify.com and let us know what you think!

    Best,
    Jon

    That’s awesome news/

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Chester143 said:

    @jbiloh said:
    Hi Everyone,

    We’re excited to share that ServerVerify, a new platform created to track hosting provider reviews and benchmarks, will launch publicly on Monday, September 15.

    ServerVerify makes it easy to:

    • Track the Leaderboard to see what hosts are performing best
    • See YABS benchmarks linked directly to each provider
    • Compare providers with reviews from the community
    • Spot verified coupons and deals
    • Explore enhanced connections between LowEndTalk, LowEndBox, and ServerVerify

    Soon hosts featured on LowEndBox will have their offers measured by ServerVerify as a way to promote improved performance for the end user. We hope to see the same theme happen naturally at LowEndTalk.

    Behind the scenes, we’ve added features like provider replies to reviews, benchmark reporting, and a faster system overall, making sure the data you see is clean and trustworthy all thanks to the feedback from LowEndTalk hosting providers the past few weeks.

    We built this platform with the LowEndTalk community at its core, and your input, benchmarks, and reviews are what make it valuable. Once live, we encourage you to log in, explore, and share your feedback.

    So checkout ServerVerify.com and let us know what you think!

    Best,
    Jon

    That’s awesome news/

    We've added a lot of features since the initial release.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @AlteredParadox said:

    Does this mean I win? I guess I can stop uploading benchmarks now. :joy:

    Awesome! Congrats.

    You should win a prize as our first to that level.

    Send me your PayPal address for a little gift!

    Any suggestions for higher tiers?

    I'm terrible at naming things, but based on the current tiers, Claude came up with: 500+ Legendary Contributor, 750+ Mythic Contributor, 1000+ Benchmark Titan, and I like it.

    We've added another tier at 500 submissions.

    PS: You still need to send me your PayPal address for a little prize for being awesome and ServerVerify's #1 benchmark contributor right now!

    Thanked by 2oloke AlteredParadox
  • @jbiloh said:
    PS: You still need to send me your PayPal address for a little prize for being awesome and ServerVerify's #1 benchmark contributor right now!

    I messaged it to you when you asked last time I think, I’ll send it again tho!

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited April 1

    @jbiloh said:
    PS: You still need to send me your PayPal address for a little prize for being awesome and ServerVerify's #1 benchmark contributor right now!

    Depends, I guess. The number of my reviews can be multiplied by at least 30 because my reviews contain almost always 30+ benchmark runs. So I actually ran well over 1000 benchmarks (vs. his 244).

    My main point though is not to take part in a pissing contest but rather that single (or a few) benchmark runs are basically all but worthless due to the fact that VPS performance by their very nature constantly change. That is why I (almost) always do (avg) 30+ runs over at least a full 24 hr period. Even that at the end of the day is just "a single glimpse" but at least one can see the spread and derive a meaningful guess (best case, worst case, etc.).

    Thanked by 1forest
  • @jbiloh would be handy to see triennial billing as an option, as well as allow setting the price in dollars and cents, even if it just takes that value and rounds it... otherwise i have to do math! :D

    Thanked by 2oloke forest
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh would be handy to see triennial billing as an option, as well as allow setting the price in dollars and cents, even if it just takes that value and rounds it... otherwise i have to do math! :D

    Agreed, will add. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • ThrowRaPestThrowRaPest Member, Patron Provider

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh would be handy to see triennial billing as an option, as well as allow setting the price in dollars and cents, even if it just takes that value and rounds it... otherwise i have to do math! :D

    Yeah triennial billing would actually be nice, and making people backsolve weird rounded pricing by hand is some real caveman UX.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @ThrowRaPest said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh would be handy to see triennial billing as an option, as well as allow setting the price in dollars and cents, even if it just takes that value and rounds it... otherwise i have to do math! :D

    Yeah triennial billing would actually be nice, and making people backsolve weird rounded pricing by hand is some real caveman UX.

    I don't want to be a caveman!!

    We will get this fixed in the next update, coming soon.

  • ThrowRaPestThrowRaPest Member, Patron Provider

    @jbiloh said:

    @ThrowRaPest said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @jbiloh would be handy to see triennial billing as an option, as well as allow setting the price in dollars and cents, even if it just takes that value and rounds it... otherwise i have to do math! :D

    Yeah triennial billing would actually be nice, and making people backsolve weird rounded pricing by hand is some real caveman UX.

    I don't want to be a caveman!!

    We will get this fixed in the next update, coming soon.

    hahaha ok I believe you

  • NushairAlviNushairAlvi 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @jbiloh can I get an update on the ticket #RUG-358375, please

  • Good service! Thanks for this.

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    Why is "Raw Benchmark Report (YABS)" not even the actual YABS benchmark results? For example, https://serververify.com/benchmarks/9fed2f42-7ab3-44ee-abd7-8f2c9e0b9a9e. There are certainly more than just this. If it isn't YABS, why even mention it?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @x0x0x said:
    Why is "Raw Benchmark Report (YABS)" not even the actual YABS benchmark results? For example, https://serververify.com/benchmarks/9fed2f42-7ab3-44ee-abd7-8f2c9e0b9a9e. There are certainly more than just this. If it isn't YABS, why even mention it?

    Help me better understand.

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