Dedirock data loss

plumberg · April 21

My backups if present are on same drive in a folder called backup

TimboJones · April 21

@Saragoldfarb said:

@zed said:
yo raid0 kinda reckless tho

My porn is in raid0. YOLO.

Size Queen.

cybertech · April 21

who needs backups

rpqu · April 22

@dbadude said:

@rpqu said:

@ITChristian said:
Also, @DediRock confirmed many of the nodes are using RAID 5 now, which adds an extra layer of confidence.

Considering this failure, I think @DediRock should consider using RAID 6, although it would mean increasing the price by few bucks

RAID is overated, its still not a backup

It's not, but it permits 2nd disk failure which may occur during rebuild

dbadude · April 22

@rpqu said:

@dbadude said:

@rpqu said:

@ITChristian said:
Also, @DediRock confirmed many of the nodes are using RAID 5 now, which adds an extra layer of confidence.

Considering this failure, I think @DediRock should consider using RAID 6, although it would mean increasing the price by few bucks

RAID is overated, its still not a backup

It's not, but it permits 2nd disk failure which may occur during rebuild

yes true, but we are talking about extreme lowend architectures. I would also rather have raid 1+0 with netapp filestore with a bigIP firewall, but that would add to the costs considerably.

Yachiyo · April 22

@DediRock Hoping everything goes well, and I purchased five VPS instances from you, including two 1.5TB storage-optimized VPS instances.

DediRock · April 22

@zed said:
they're pretty budget to be using for backups, but different folks. or maybe you have multiple vps you're using.

Hey @zed We try to keep prices competitive Thank you for the comment.

DediRock · April 22

@Carlin0 said:
@DediRock

Hey @Carlin0 how ya been man? Yep was able to get talk to @ITChristian to make sure all was okay. Thanks!

DediRock · April 22

@zed said:
wait i thought he got a ticket from dedirock saying they lost data, was it a different dedirock?

Hey @zed,

Yes, we had opened tickets to all customers affected when the incident happened. Since then, we actually now send out updates from the the Virtualizor system in order to communicate things faster.

Thanks!

DediRock · April 22

@ShalaWorks said:
I've already lost data once, and it seems to be common. It doesn't surprise me; at those prices, they're obviously recycling ancient hardware.

Hey @ShalaWorks we continue to dial things in Out of the 29 storage nodes we have now, all but 2 are fully upgraded to RAID-5 So that is a step in the right direction!

Also I did check your INV 28830 and the node that VM is on, I was able to add 1GB extra ram, just reboot your server and you should see it!

A Quadruple-DediRock Offender™

The DediRam Special™

DediRock · April 22

@fluffernutter said:
I think they're running raid0, I remember @DediRock saying at some point they plan on upgrading to raid5 or something similar.

Hello! @fluffernutter in addition to making it Off The IPV6 Hall Of Shame™ we are almost fully upgraded to RAID-5 across all storage nodes. Only 2 left to upgrade and that is in progress

Thanks for the comment!

DejavuMoe · April 23

@DediRock said:

@fluffernutter said:
I think they're running raid0, I remember @DediRock saying at some point they plan on upgrading to raid5 or something similar.

Hello! @fluffernutter in addition to making it Off The IPV6 Hall Of Shame™ we are almost fully upgraded to RAID-5 across all storage nodes. Only 2 left to upgrade and that is in progress

Thanks for the comment!

great!!!

Although I have suffered from data loss once, everything will run well in the future (no compensation), but I am very satisfied with the service you provide at this price.

I hope you can maintain a good operating condition. After all, there are not many service providers who offer transactions of less than $7/y. I wish you all the best!

ShalaWorks · April 25

@DediRock said:

@fluffernutter said:
I think they're running raid0, I remember @DediRock saying at some point they plan on upgrading to raid5 or something similar.

Hello! @fluffernutter in addition to making it Off The IPV6 Hall Of Shame™ we are almost fully upgraded to RAID-5 across all storage nodes. Only 2 left to upgrade and that is in progress

Thanks for the comment!

thanks for that

ralf · April 25

@Saragoldfarb said:

@zed said:
yo raid0 kinda reckless tho

My porn is in raid0. YOLO.

I thought the stripes were just marks from the whips.

jsg · April 25

@dbadude said:

@rpqu said:

@ITChristian said:
Also, @DediRock confirmed many of the nodes are using RAID 5 now, which adds an extra layer of confidence.

Considering this failure, I think @DediRock should consider using RAID 6, although it would mean increasing the price by few bucks

RAID is overated, its still not a backup

That's true, BUT: If I'm not mistaken we're talking about a storage server here that is, a server with one single job, to - hopefully reliably - store data. To offer a storage server without redundancy in the drives aka Raid 1, 5 or 60 (or 10/50/60, but certainly not on a dirt cheap one) is, frankly, utterly nonsensical and unprofessional.
I get it, how to offer that for $7/yr is a major problem for a provider.
My advice to @ITChristian is to expressly ask for the disk setup and to walk away if it's not reasonably professional.

FWIW I have 2 backup servers from reliable top-providers, one from @host_c and the other one on an AlphaVPS / @AlexBarakov dedi (Raid 1). And with neither I've lost a single byte in years.

That $7 thingy of @DediRock I did not even look at.

DediRock · April 25

@budi1413 said:
thats why we need backup server for the backup server

that is a great idea @budi1413 maybe a new product

DediRock · April 25

@ITChristian said:
I have messaged DediRock directly. Thank you all for your replies — I needed to know other users’ opinions and experiences on these matters.

@TimboJones said:

@ITChristian said:
Christ is Risen!

That's a new rename that won't take.

In Orthodox Christianity, this is Easter week. This is how we greet each other

Hey @ITChristian,

Glad we could get everything all sorted out, have a great weekend, thanks for your patience and understanding.

The DediRock Family™

DediRock · April 25

@WebProject said:

@fluffernutter said:
I think they're running raid0, I remember @DediRock saying at some point they plan on upgrading to raid5 or something similar.

provider raid setup is not backup, as raid can fail and wipe all the data.

@ITChristian said: i recently found a ticket opened saying they lost my data.

have you got any alternative backups?

Hello @WebProject,

That is true, data loss can still happen even with RAID, thanks for the comment.

DediRock · April 25

@zed said:

@fluffernutter said:
I think they're running raid0, I remember @DediRock saying at some point they plan on upgrading to raid5 or something similar.

lol what?

Yup! Getting closer to the migrations and updates to RAID5 being done All new nodes (5 new ones here shortly) are RAID5 now.

Thanks

DediRock · April 25

@fluffernutter said:

@zed said:

@fluffernutter said:
I think they're running raid0, I remember @DediRock saying at some point they plan on upgrading to raid5 or something similar.

lol what?

premium provider i guess

Goals @fluffernutter Goals Have a great weekend man, thx for the comment.

DediRock · April 25

@aRNoLD said:
They are performing maintenance job.

Down for Maintenance (Err 3)

We are currently performing maintenance and will be back shortly.

Hey @aRNoLD,

How are you man? Yes, we were working on a WHMCS upgrade, got it all done! Thanks for your patience and sorry for any inconvenience caused, have a great day and weekend!

The DediRock Family™

DediRock · April 25

@ITChristian said:
They seem to be a good provider — very polite, and they offered me an extra month free as compensation for the data loss. Fortunately I didn’t lose anything important: just a few pieces of software I created; the rest of the files are in a previous backup of the backup. So everything’s fine. Also, @DediRock confirmed many of the nodes are using RAID 5 now, which adds an extra layer of confidence.

Hello @ITChristian,

Awesome man, thank you very much for the compliment, correct, most nodes are now upgraded to RAID5. All new ones moving forward, will all be RAID5 from the start, thanks again, have a great weekend.

Thanks

DediRock · April 25

@dbadude said:
@ITChristian no problems with my dedirock vps-es at LA+BUFFALO

Hello @dbadude,

Thank you and awesome to hear, have a great weekend!

The DediRock Family™

DediRock · April 25

@NotFoundException said:

@dbadude said:

@rpqu said:

@ITChristian said:
Also, @DediRock confirmed many of the nodes are using RAID 5 now, which adds an extra layer of confidence.

Considering this failure, I think @DediRock should consider using RAID 6, although it would mean increasing the price by few bucks

RAID is overated, its still not a backup

Yea, I also think it's better to loose all live data when a single drive fails. The best part of it is, that my backup job is running each second, so I still have that data. lol

Hello @NotFoundException,

Yes, RAID0 was a bit intense, having RAID5 is much better

Thanks!

DediRock · April 25

@dbadude said:

@rpqu said:

@ITChristian said:
Also, @DediRock confirmed many of the nodes are using RAID 5 now, which adds an extra layer of confidence.

Considering this failure, I think @DediRock should consider using RAID 6, although it would mean increasing the price by few bucks

RAID is overated, its still not a backup

back to @budi1413's idea

DediRock · April 25

@dbadude said:

@NotFoundException said:

@dbadude said:

@rpqu said:

@ITChristian said:
Also, @DediRock confirmed many of the nodes are using RAID 5 now, which adds an extra layer of confidence.

Considering this failure, I think @DediRock should consider using RAID 6, although it would mean increasing the price by few bucks

RAID is overated, its still not a backup

Yea, I also think it's better to loose all live data when a single drive fails. The best part of it is, that my backup job is running each second, so I still have that data. lol

We are talking about a 7 dollar/Year chicken not a enterprise solution. That would be 10 dollar per year.

Working on the enterprise solution soon!

DediRock · April 25

@zed said:
yo raid0 kinda reckless tho

A little like drinking milk 1 day after the expiration date.....

Def glad to we are doing the upgrades to RAID5

DediRock · April 25

@nameserver said:
ehhh I use dedirock for my valuable proxmox cluster

maybe i need to grab another deal to backup the proxmox backup server using dedirock?

I trust dedirock. I went raid 0 on one of my homelab.

Thx @nameserver,

I am thinking about doing some sort of offer on backups, so customers can have more than one storage VM on different nodes, and maybe a higher limit on bandwidth, etc, thanks!

The DediRock Family™

DediRock · April 25

@plumberg said:
My backups if present are on same drive in a folder called backup

lol excellent @plumberg

DediRock · April 25

@dbadude said:

@rpqu said:

@dbadude said:

@rpqu said:

@ITChristian said:
Also, @DediRock confirmed many of the nodes are using RAID 5 now, which adds an extra layer of confidence.

Considering this failure, I think @DediRock should consider using RAID 6, although it would mean increasing the price by few bucks

RAID is overated, its still not a backup

It's not, but it permits 2nd disk failure which may occur during rebuild

yes true, but we are talking about extreme lowend architectures. I would also rather have raid 1+0 with netapp filestore with a bigIP firewall, but that would add to the costs considerably.

Thx @dbadude,

Something for me to look into I have also been getting lots of requests to add a small SSD drive for the OS.

Thanks!

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