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  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member

    @forest said:

    @WyvernCo said: I think you are just trying to rile me up so I get banned. I have some choice words about you and your insinuations about me.

    I truly think @MannDude is not actually trying to get you banned. There has been a lot of misinfo in here and it's understandable that he won't automatically side with you. But he's not the kind of person to try that.

    Alright; I don't know him, I just see his signature where he runs a privacy-focused provider and at the same time comes to the defense of a doxxer, and it doesn't look great.

  • forestforest Member

    @WyvernCo said:

    @forest said:

    @WyvernCo said: I think you are just trying to rile me up so I get banned. I have some choice words about you and your insinuations about me.

    I truly think @MannDude is not actually trying to get you banned. There has been a lot of misinfo in here and it's understandable that he won't automatically side with you. But he's not the kind of person to try that.

    Alright; I don't know him, I just see his signature where he runs a privacy-focused provider and at the same time comes to the defense of a doxxer, and it doesn't look great.

    It's best not to judge a book by its cover. He was just, at the time, under the impression that you went from 0 to 100 at once without even trying to report jar to mods.

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo buzzyLET
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited April 8

    @forest said:

    @WyvernCo said: I think you are just trying to rile me up so I get banned. I have some choice words about you and your insinuations about me.

    I truly think @MannDude is not actually trying to get you banned. There has been a lot of misinfo in here and it's understandable that he won't automatically side with you. But he's not the kind of person to try that.

    This.

    My stance changes based on available info. I apologize if I've not followed or read every word as clearly as they're written, on mobile at the moment as mentioned in all my replies. Will be to my office shortly though.

    My only major concern was I legit was going to drop MXR, a provider that has been rock solid for me for many years, because I originally thought he was snooping on a customers emails for retaliation. Turns out it that was not the case and it was some forum drama and some people (Jar included) being malicious in response.

    Anyhow, anything I've said has only been my personal opinion so again, attack my character but not my business if my words have caused some form of harm.

    Edit: I'm not defending jar either. I've said time and time again the trust pilot review was insanely stupid. I'm sure he knows that now and regrets doing that in his response to prior escalation.

  • forestforest Member
    edited April 8

    @MannDude said: My only major concern was I legit was going to drop MXR

    If you do, it should be because jar is willing to attack others who have business with him for petty reasons and because he cancels customers for equally petty reasons. Whether or not he snoops is not something that has been proven yet.

    @MannDude said: Edit: I'm not defending jar either. I've said time and time again the trust pilot review was insanely stupid. I'm sure he knows that now and regrets doing that in his response to prior escalation.

    Given that he's doubling down on Reddit and other forums, I really doubt it.

  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member
    edited April 8

    @MannDude said: I apologize if I've not followed or read every word as clearly as they're written, on mobile at the moment as mentioned in all my replies.

    If this is an apology for the earlier statements then thank you. I do understand it's 23 pages of posts at this point and rather involved, and possible to get things wrong.

    We did not know the exact mechanism Jar was using for the doxxing at the time (and still don't), it was Protocol903 who figured out the most likely mechanism later on in the thread (which didn't rely on e-mail contents).

  • ObelousObelous Member

    "[...] I would like to de-escalate, and that has been my goal with this user."

    Calling someone a psycho and then targeting their (alleged) employer, interesting way to de-escalate...

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo forest
  • forestforest Member

    It can get quite heated, but I'm glad it's not getting derailed or causing new and unnecessary fights.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • forestforest Member
    edited April 8

    @Obelous said:
    "[...] I would like to de-escalate, and that has been my goal with this user."

    Calling someone a psycho and then targeting their (alleged) employer, interesting way to de-escalate...

    It's interesting how his followers seem to be a part of a cult of personality. Just looking through his subreddit, it's full of people endlessly congratulating him for doing various things that are typically considered antisocial.

    Thanked by 2buzzyLET WyvernCo
  • Oh good, I’m glad to see we’re another 100 posts deep after my nap.

    Thanked by 3WyvernCo host_c Rocco
  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member

    @Obelous said:
    "[...] I would like to de-escalate, and that has been my goal with this user."

    Calling someone a psycho and then targeting their (alleged) employer, interesting way to de-escalate...

    Especially since apparently he threatened legal action:

    I contacted their employer, not to get them fired, but hoping they'd de-escalate once they realized I knew who they were and could pursue actual legal action if necessary

    And continues to do so:

    it’s quite clear that I was in error to try to avoid going the legal route.

    Based on some other comments here and on reddit, I think Jar is used to bullying people and having them back down.

    Now, I don't doubt Jar can waste his money trying to sue me, but the consumer protection laws here are pretty good for my defense, and I have some great counter claims (publicity rights, libel/defamation, etc). Jar also has a lot more to lose than I do, so it'd be a fantastically dumb fight for him to pick. I am not going to escalate this to court first though, if he wants that fight, he's going to have to instigate it.

    I will not be silenced by his threats.

  • edited April 8

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @cybertech said:
    go for a walk/jog, swim/do sports or simply lift heavy. much better use of time.

    Correct.
    Push-ups solve all the problems.

  • The real exciting part of the day is I got another 5TB of storage for $55! Storage, glorious storage!

  • forestforest Member

    @AlteredParadox said:
    The real exciting part of the day is I got another 5TB of storage for $55! Storage, glorious storage!

    But how much bandwidth?

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • @forest said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    The real exciting part of the day is I got another 5TB of storage for $55! Storage, glorious storage!

    But how much bandwidth?

    Do not need bandwidth to idle. idles

  • ObelousObelous Member

    @Obelous said:
    "[...] I would like to de-escalate, and that has been my goal with this user."

    Calling someone a psycho and then targeting their (alleged) employer, interesting way to de-escalate...

    And he just edited the comment.

    Hi jar! Please do something other than spamming F5 here.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member
    edited April 8

    Given that he just reported this post and the linked post that I wrote earlier, I assume that the user doesn't want me to answer questions about it.

    This is hilarious given he was the one who blocked me on Reddit, preventing me from replying to his post in my reddit thread.

    I can't even access his subreddit (I'm banned there, no surprise) except in an incognito window. I literally don't have a report button (correction, apparently there is one, I just didn't know where it was), so now he's just flat out lying. (I never reported either of his posts)

  • buzzyLETbuzzyLET Member

    @WyvernCo said:

    Given that he just reported this post and the linked post that I wrote earlier, I assume that the user doesn't want me to answer questions about it.

    This is hilarious given he was the one who blocked me on Reddit, preventing me from replying to his post in my reddit thread.

    I can't even access his subreddit (I'm banned there, no surprise) except in an incognito window. I literally don't have a report button, so now he's just flat out lying. (I never reported either of his posts)

    Some crazy stuff going on in the reddit thread - I went in earlier and upvoted a few of the buried threads on there, and a few hours later my reddit account got flagged for "suspicious behavior" (!), the top post also is talking about how there's been crazy brigading and flagging on Reddit's end. I've used reddit for years and never once got a flag on my account like this, it's got to be related

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • forestforest Member

    @buzzyLET said:

    @WyvernCo said:

    Given that he just reported this post and the linked post that I wrote earlier, I assume that the user doesn't want me to answer questions about it.

    This is hilarious given he was the one who blocked me on Reddit, preventing me from replying to his post in my reddit thread.

    I can't even access his subreddit (I'm banned there, no surprise) except in an incognito window. I literally don't have a report button, so now he's just flat out lying. (I never reported either of his posts)

    Some crazy stuff going on in the reddit thread - I went in earlier and upvoted a few of the buried threads on there, and a few hours later my reddit account got flagged for "suspicious behavior" (!), the top post also is talking about how there's been crazy brigading and flagging on Reddit's end. I've used reddit for years and never once got a flag on my account like this, it's got to be related

    Someone was botting or brigading. It likely thought you were one of them due to the algorithm being on alert. The fraudulent votes seem to have disappeared and the heavy vote fuzzing is gone.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @AlteredParadox said:
    The real exciting part of the day is I got another 5TB of storage for $55! Storage, glorious storage!

    Where?

  • buzzyLETbuzzyLET Member

    @forest said:

    @buzzyLET said:

    @WyvernCo said:

    Given that he just reported this post and the linked post that I wrote earlier, I assume that the user doesn't want me to answer questions about it.

    This is hilarious given he was the one who blocked me on Reddit, preventing me from replying to his post in my reddit thread.

    I can't even access his subreddit (I'm banned there, no surprise) except in an incognito window. I literally don't have a report button, so now he's just flat out lying. (I never reported either of his posts)

    Some crazy stuff going on in the reddit thread - I went in earlier and upvoted a few of the buried threads on there, and a few hours later my reddit account got flagged for "suspicious behavior" (!), the top post also is talking about how there's been crazy brigading and flagging on Reddit's end. I've used reddit for years and never once got a flag on my account like this, it's got to be related

    Someone was botting or brigading. It likely thought you were one of them due to the algorithm being on alert. The fraudulent votes seem to have disappeared and the heavy vote fuzzing is gone.

    Yup I see that now, Jar's comment at -100 now and the negative reasonable reply is positive. That is so crazy, I was trying to figure out what it could be until I came back here and remembered this thread

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • forestforest Member

    @buzzyLET said:

    @forest said:

    @buzzyLET said:

    @WyvernCo said:

    Given that he just reported this post and the linked post that I wrote earlier, I assume that the user doesn't want me to answer questions about it.

    This is hilarious given he was the one who blocked me on Reddit, preventing me from replying to his post in my reddit thread.

    I can't even access his subreddit (I'm banned there, no surprise) except in an incognito window. I literally don't have a report button, so now he's just flat out lying. (I never reported either of his posts)

    Some crazy stuff going on in the reddit thread - I went in earlier and upvoted a few of the buried threads on there, and a few hours later my reddit account got flagged for "suspicious behavior" (!), the top post also is talking about how there's been crazy brigading and flagging on Reddit's end. I've used reddit for years and never once got a flag on my account like this, it's got to be related

    Someone was botting or brigading. It likely thought you were one of them due to the algorithm being on alert. The fraudulent votes seem to have disappeared and the heavy vote fuzzing is gone.

    Yup I see that now, Jar's comment at -100 now and the negative reasonable reply is positive. That is so crazy, I was trying to figure out what it could be until I came back here and remembered this thread

    It's been below -160 for a while now.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • chorongchorong Member

    Honestly hilarious that it's gone on for this long. I feel like this could have been resolved a long time ago but both sides kept escalating and now it's come to a head.

  • Also I just remembered @host_c used my username as a promo code a while ago, am I supposed to get his website shut down now or how does this work?! I need an ai summary. > @rpqu said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    The real exciting part of the day is I got another 5TB of storage for $55! Storage, glorious storage!

    Where?

    Hostbrr transfer, another of the drama threads today! 🤣

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • [@forest said]
    It's been below -160 for a while now.

    Did you forget to shut off your downvote bot?!?

  • forestforest Member

    @AlteredParadox said:

    [@forest said]
    It's been below -160 for a while now.

    Did you forget to shut off your downvote bot?!?

    The bots were removed, which is why Reddit is no longer fuzzing the votes.

    I haven't even voted manually once, but that's not out of a lack of willingness: Reddit seems to block Tor sign-ups.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • rpqurpqu Member

    @chorong said:
    Honestly hilarious that it's gone on for this long. I feel like this could have been resolved a long time ago but both sides kept escalating and now it's come to a head.

    They're terrible match. Usually, one side would take the losses and stop.
    That's why you wouldn't see their personality type on nuclear command center

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Also I just remembered @host_c used my username as a promo code a while ago, am I supposed to get his website shut down now or how does this work?! I need an ai summary. > @rpqu said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    The real exciting part of the day is I got another 5TB of storage for $55! Storage, glorious storage!

    Where?

    Hostbrr transfer, another of the drama threads today! 🤣

    Ah, @rohitsingh1333 's drama. On the other hand, let's see whether we can bother @host_c lol

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • @forest said:

    @AlteredParadox said:

    [@forest said]
    It's been below -160 for a while now.

    Did you forget to shut off your downvote bot?!?

    The bots were removed, which is why Reddit is no longer fuzzing the votes.

    I haven't even voted manually once, but that's not out of a lack of willingness: Reddit seems to block Tor sign-ups.

    They really love Mullvad....

  • NoctNoct Member

    @whynotlearn said:

    @WyvernCo said:

    @forest said: Well, that's assuming it did happen. If it didn't then jar is lying of course, but I'd hope he wouldn't lie about something like that.

    Can't know for sure, but he has been known to stretch the truth quite a bit in past. Like in his retaliatory reviews, where he equates leaving a bad review of MXRoute on Trustpilot to "attempted to utterly destroy our business."

    That being said, I just found something far more interesting...

    Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    I know he's infamous for his retaliatory reviews, but this is crazy 🤣

    What the actual duck, jar is showing some actual psychotic behaviour if he's doing this... this questions his all integrity/any statement he says or has said previously. Oh boy. Jar what is all of this behaviour. I am unsure how customers of MXRoute might feel about all of this too.

    How did he even find where you work, was he intentionally searching your name and trying to find you on the internet and then leave an somewhat-false review to your employer?, it feels extremely wrong for him to do this.

    This is the man who has many a person heres mail.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • @rpqu said:

    @chorong said:
    Honestly hilarious that it's gone on for this long. I feel like this could have been resolved a long time ago but both sides kept escalating and now it's come to a head.

    They're terrible match. Usually, one side would take the losses and stop.
    That's why you wouldn't see their personality type on nuclear command center

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Also I just remembered @host_c used my username as a promo code a while ago, am I supposed to get his website shut down now or how does this work?! I need an ai summary. > @rpqu said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    The real exciting part of the day is I got another 5TB of storage for $55! Storage, glorious storage!

    Where?

    Hostbrr transfer, another of the drama threads today! 🤣

    Ah, @rohitsingh1333 's drama. On the other hand, let's see whether we can bother @host_c lol

    Don't forget the C-Servers drama thread, too! we need a DRAMA MEGATHREAD, maybe we can get DRAMA DEALS

    Thanked by 2rpqu host_c
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