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As I said earlier, they're both in the wrong.
And as I said earlier, if you keep poking someone and causing them pain, not everybody is going to keep taking it, and sooner or later they might retaliate. I believe the modern kids call it FAFO.
So jar can use his position to create an attack flash sale, dox a guy, and try to get him fired, but WyvernCo is escalating by posting about what happened?
Lol, this fucker is definitely stalking your inbox. Absolute nutjob. Takes a lifetime to build a reputation and five minutes of crazy to ruin it. Can't wait to watch his 'business' crash and burn.
To be fair, half of the 18 page thread if not more is just discussion and people taking jar side, some taking this side and some being in middle. There is nuance and there were some good discussions too. Painting as its all one side really feels an biased take and once again jar is writing comments on lowendspirit and other platforms too so :-/
But it seems to me (and I may be wrong) that you are stating that jar's attacks are justified.
I was in WyvernCo's position and I laughed it off after a few minutes. But that doesn't mean everyone will react that way. Jar used his position to amplify an attack in a way WyvernCo could not have done due to the asymmetry in their reach.
I think the problem is that you don't want your E-mail provider to f*ck around and find out. You expect some sense from them to be more cool-headed, atleast that's my opinion.
Yet people forgot about it pretty quickly
@whynotlearn you're spamming "a bit", chill.
When you say "it's on reddit now", looking at the username it's just Wyvern who's posting it.
Is wyvern even a customer? Jar said he's not even a customer.
I am going to go sleep now, good night y'all :-)
Have a long sleep
He's not, neither of them claim one was a customer.
So you're saying that WyvernCo is really your business name and not simply a fictitous online forum screen name? That would explain how he got your information (when Hetzner and/or PayPal asked him to respond to your complaint that you proved ownership of the name WyvernCo [as opposed to making an anonymous complaint without proving name ownership, in which case they wouldn't have bothered him in the first place]).
No, I'm saying that Wyvern's attacks from the absolutely beginning of the original post were completely unjustified, and everything that has transpired since is the result of him acting like a dick, and then jar acting like a dick in response.
So, let me get this right. Is your made up nickname registered somewhere as real trademark ?
Like a little kid who bullies everyone but goes to his mommy sobbing when someone actually snaps back
Major fafo get a job
What attacks? Genuinely asking, I don't remember any until jar's attack thread.
What I remember was criticism for his actions on TrustPilot which, at least to me, appeared non-aggressive.
Whats even worse, Hetzner acting on report based on what ?
Give it time I'm sure people will forget about this shit the exact same
It's fresh news we're all gonna jump on it like vultures
WyvernCo must have proved to Hetzner (and PayPal) that he has trademark ownership rights to the name WyvernCo.
Which was how Jar was able to identify him with some very simple googling.
I drive home from work and come back to 100+ new replies, wtf. How is this still going
In what country ?
It's easily googlable.
The UK.
At the end of the day, someone using their audience to amplify an attack is always in the wrong, and it is incredibly immature of them to react that way because someone criticized them for their behavior on TrustPilot, even if they were followed in a few threads.
And it's quite unexpected. A hosting provider getting hacked is at least not out of the ordinary.
A couple years ago I might've said this but Jar does seem to publicly crashout here every 2-3 months for some reason or another so I kinda saw it coming again eventually
@jar runs a cutting-edge email service at an unbeatable price. I became a customer even though I didn't particularly need separate email because I liked his frank, tough-guy attitude on LET, even though I did not agree with everything he wrote.
I'm a little disappointed now because tough guys shouldn't pick on the weak just for sport.
Remember, Ronald Reagan said of Michael Dukakis: "I’m not going to pick on an invalid.”
Take a vacation, @jar, relax a bit and we'll be here as your customers when you get back.
The coupon code "forest_and_WyvernCo_are_psycho" was an immediate legend and will always remain so.
What surprises me most is seeing a couple people try to excuse his behavior.
It's usually funny as hell too
Well, as you say, when you google his nickname it comes out more than 20 different persons and groups. He can sue them all and make millions