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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @host_c said:

    @default said: You might want to better secure all your servers mate. Your credentials are now public.

    Host: 127.0.0.1
    User: the-boss
    Password: who's-your-baby?

    There you go, fixed, it is with BOLD characters and the password is ITALIC, so beat that :D :D

    Much safer. Now it does not work.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @jsg said:
    With a bit of luck the ai bubble will blow up soon and the market will be flooded with all the memory, disks, etc, when they try to save what little of investments can be saved.

    May this prophecy come true! May your beliefs come with blessings upon your (mouth) keyboard and shine light upon your golden (tongue) fingers!

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @host_c said:
    I really don't see the future evolution of AI dependent on GPU and CPU ( x86 based ), sincerely, it is like Crypto, as the models get more and more complex, and they do, you will need ASIC's very soon ( some use this already, yet I will put these to V1.1 at the moment ). I mean, you can run basic LLM on cpu and GPU, but complex models will hit a computational barrier. They suffer from latency issues as most moved to NVLink, NVSwitch, Infiniband, RoCE, yet I think this will change also, why? they need more.

    I just wish to share my view on the AI Boom/Bubble:

    Raw power is one aspect, you also need something lightning fast to access storage and the rest of the parts of the system.

    Data movement is the real problem, or the second after processing power.

    They eat RAM like popcorn on a good movie night ( or a LET shit-show :D ) as for the moment the technology is not mature enough/is pretty new, so RAM is the only way to store stuff for fast access, I see that this will change, at least it has to, as it is very inefficient.

    On what technologies do large companies bet for AI? I have no clue, but I don't think for near future is x86 based systems, they are very inefficient for this.

    It is all fun and games for RAM and Storage manufacturers this year, but they will also have to do something, as the general population will not take the price hikes indefinitely. I doubt that this can drag on for years, that would be pure stupidity, yet ...... I might not be the smartest elephant in the room.

    Yeah latency is a problem .

    "single AI rack draws up to 600 kW and optical networking alone can consume 10% of that power envelope. "Scale-up optics — the chip-to-chip interconnects within NVIDIA’s NVLink domain — are approaching a transition point as the NVLink-connected GPU domain expands from 72 GPUs in Blackwell to larger configurations in Rubin, pushing copper electrical signaling toward its physical limits in bandwidth-per-watt at the frequencies required for 800 Gbps links. NVIDIA’s CPO-based systems, such as Quantum-X and Spectrum-X Photonics, target power consumption reductions of up to 3.5x and resiliency improvements of 10x, gains that become essential when a single AI rack draws up to 600 kW and optical networking alone can consume 10% of that power envelope.

    Scale-out optics — the rack-to-rack fabric layer using pluggable and eventually co-packaged transceivers — face a volume problem, as clusters scaling to tens of thousands of GPUs require hundreds of thousands of optical links, each dependent on the same constrained InP laser supply. NVIDIA is positioning itself to lead both domains by transitioning from traditional pluggable transceivers to vertically integrated CPO.


    Especially in current setup where multiple GPU is required to run latest model.
    And, reading recent news. it seems they're developing 100+Tbps core system in-a-rack
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @jsg said:
    With a bit of luck the ai bubble will blow up soon and the market will be flooded with all the memory, disks, etc, when they try to save what little of investments can be saved.

    I

    Thanked by 2jsg AlteredParadox
  • eliphaseliphas Member

    where is the drama? HOURS from the terms update have been passed! peuple musst be pissd!

    spoiler: the pissed ones are the ones that still won't get the email update lol

  • @eliphas said:
    where is the drama? HOURS from the terms update have been passed! peuple musst be pissd!

    spoiler: the pissed ones are the ones that still won't get the email update lol

    Clearly this calls for "We updated the terms and nobody had any drama" celebratory deals.

    Thanked by 2host_c rpqu
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @eliphas said:
    where is the drama? HOURS from the terms update have been passed! peuple musst be pissd!

    spoiler: the pissed ones are the ones that still won't get the email update lol

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    damn, forgot... IPV6 only :D :D

    Yet i might do outbound NAT IPV4 on it, still thinking of that is to any use ?????

    This is a follow up from here:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/215366/host-c-pioneer-5tb-storage-user-looking-for-alternatives#latest

    Would an outbound only IPV4 NAT be to any use on a IPV6 only service?? Or most got the hang of cloud-flare tunneling or other for IPV4 access?????

    Thanked by 2rpqu AlteredParadox
  • @host_c said:

    damn, forgot... IPV6 only :D :D

    Yet i might do outbound NAT IPV4 on it, still thinking of that is to any use ?????

    This is a follow up from here:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/215366/host-c-pioneer-5tb-storage-user-looking-for-alternatives#latest

    Would an outbound only IPV4 NAT be to any use on a IPV6 only service?? Or most got the hang of cloud-flare tunneling or other for IPV4 access?????

    I mean I already have my own ipv4 nat figured out through one of my dual stack boxes, its even part of my ansible script :joy: but it does make things like talking to github or running unmodified YABS a little easier for folks, id imagine.

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @host_c said:

    damn, forgot... IPV6 only :D :D

    Yet i might do outbound NAT IPV4 on it, still thinking of that is to any use ?????

    This is a follow up from here:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/215366/host-c-pioneer-5tb-storage-user-looking-for-alternatives#latest

    Would an outbound only IPV4 NAT be to any use on a IPV6 only service?? Or most got the hang of cloud-flare tunneling or other for IPV4 access?????

    I mean I already have my own ipv4 nat figured out through one of my dual stack boxes, its even part of my ansible script :joy: but it does make things like talking to github or running unmodified YABS a little easier for folks, id imagine.

    yeah, I was thinking as at least outbound access to IPV4 only sites would be much easier this way...

    Let's see what others think.....

    Thanked by 1AlteredParadox
  • edited March 20

    @host_c said:

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @host_c said:

    damn, forgot... IPV6 only :D :D

    Yet i might do outbound NAT IPV4 on it, still thinking of that is to any use ?????

    This is a follow up from here:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/215366/host-c-pioneer-5tb-storage-user-looking-for-alternatives#latest

    Would an outbound only IPV4 NAT be to any use on a IPV6 only service?? Or most got the hang of cloud-flare tunneling or other for IPV4 access?????

    I mean I already have my own ipv4 nat figured out through one of my dual stack boxes, its even part of my ansible script :joy: but it does make things like talking to github or running unmodified YABS a little easier for folks, id imagine.

    yeah, I was thinking as at least outbound access to IPV4 only sites would be much easier this way...

    Let's see what others think.....

    Also I'm pretty sure you broke LET. You mentioned me and it took me 5 minutes to load the page, even downforeveryoneorjustme.com showed it as down for a minute there :joy:

    Thanked by 2host_c oloke
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @AlteredParadox said: Also I'm pretty sure you broke LET. You mentioned me and it took me 5 minutes to load the page, even downforeveryoneorjustme.com showed it as down for a minute there :joy:

    Thanked by 1AlteredParadox
  • @host_c said:

    @AlteredParadox said: Also I'm pretty sure you broke LET. You mentioned me and it took me 5 minutes to load the page, even downforeveryoneorjustme.com showed it as down for a minute there :joy:

    As fast as @host_c sales go, 5 minutes is a downright CRISIS, ok!?!?! :P

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • rpqurpqu Member

    @host_c said:

    damn, forgot... IPV6 only :D :D

    Yet i might do outbound NAT IPV4 on it, still thinking of that is to any use ?????

    This is a follow up from here:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/215366/host-c-pioneer-5tb-storage-user-looking-for-alternatives#latest

    Would an outbound only IPV4 NAT be to any use on a IPV6 only service?? Or most got the hang of cloud-flare tunneling or other for IPV4 access?????

    Ironically, yes. There's a lot of ipv4 only sites.

  • @host_c said:

    damn, forgot... IPV6 only :D :D

    Yet i might do outbound NAT IPV4 on it, still thinking of that is to any use ?????

    This is a follow up from here:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/215366/host-c-pioneer-5tb-storage-user-looking-for-alternatives#latest

    Would an outbound only IPV4 NAT be to any use on a IPV6 only service?? Or most got the hang of cloud-flare tunneling or other for IPV4 access?????

    ... MOAR

    Thanked by 2oloke host_c
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @host_c any plans to offer VPS servers in Indonesia? 🇮🇩

    related comment (i would buy)

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @oloke said:
    @host_c any plans to offer VPS servers in Indonesia? 🇮🇩

    related comment (i would buy)

    Thx, well, here is the catch. We own our infrastructure, and I am not comfortable to rent out.

    So for that to happen, it means I will have to fly in there and open the location myself, why????? well, I kinda don't trust DC staff, no offense to anyone, but I have a very bad experience with that.

    Right now, as of today, I don't think an expense like this is worth the try..... and here comes the but, but I am leaning not to open a new location the EU, as sincerely, the most I will gain is ~25 ms. So yes, other Geo Locations are on the table for the next grand opening, and sincerely, ASIA sounds nice to me lately...... But I cannot confirm this for the moment.

    Yet , as I said earlier, I will restrain myself from high risk investments until the dust settles.

    Thanked by 2oloke JohnFilch123
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @host_c said:

    @oloke said:
    @host_c any plans to offer VPS servers in Indonesia? 🇮🇩

    related comment (i would buy)

    I kinda don't trust DC staff, no offense to anyone, but I have a very bad experience with that.

    I definitely understand this concern. However at some point you most likely have to if you wish to offer your services in multiple regions.

    So yes, other Geo Locations are on the table for the next grand opening, and sincerely, ASIA sounds nice to me lately...... But I cannot confirm this for the moment.

    Good luck with the (future) expansion ;)

    Thank you for answer and have a great day! <3

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited March 26

    @oloke said: I definitely understand this concern. However at some point you most likely have to if you wish to offer your services in multiple regions.

    Yeah, precisely, that is my puzzle now, for quite a while actually. The RAM and GAS fuckery did not help, we did cancel a bunch of projects for 2026, among them is expansion, yet, I will not say more, as I am waiting how will things develop at a larger scale for the moment. ( Geo-Political wise )

    <3 THX for the support.

    Thanked by 2oloke JohnFilch123
  • Yes, tough times. Whole expansion is cool but I guess having a more sustainable plan in relation to what you have already is...more important I guess. I do enjoy my two servers with you, super stable, so I hope this will continue throughout years rather than having more cool locations and well...However, ID location is interesting :lol:

    Thanked by 2oloke host_c
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @host_c said:

    @oloke said: I definitely understand this concern. However at some point you most likely have to if you wish to offer your services in multiple regions.

    Yeah, precisely, that is my puzzle now, for quite a while actually. The RAM and GAS fuckery did not help, we did cancel a bunch of projects for 2026, among them is expansion, yet, I will not say more, as I am waiting how will things develop at a larger scale for the moment. ( Geo-Political wise )

    <3 THX for the support.

    Nothing compares to them romanian sisters

  • eliphaseliphas Member

    Maintenance Window
    Date: March 26, 2026
    Time: 10:00 AM (Bucharest Time / EET)

    @host_c you promised my server a reboot, where is it? add diks to my vps while at it

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • eliphaseliphas Member

    Hello Eliphas,
    One of your uptime monitors is still DOWN.
    Noticed at: 2026-03-26 11:09:46 (UTC-03:00)

    Ahh there is it.

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • @eliphas said:

    Maintenance Window
    Date: March 26, 2026
    Time: 10:00 AM (Bucharest Time / EET)

    @host_c you promised my server a reboot, where is it? add diks to my vps while at it

    my server was not rebooted either, i'm losing millions! oh, wait... :D

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited March 26

    @host_c said:

    @oloke said:
    @host_c any plans to offer VPS servers in Indonesia? 🇮🇩

    related comment (i would buy)

    Yet , as I said earlier, I will restrain myself from high risk investments until the dust settles.

    I'm committed to give insights... For $7/yr deals 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    We delayed the reboot as we also did some FW updates.

    Nodes are getting restarted right now.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @maverick said:

    @eliphas said:

    Maintenance Window
    Date: March 26, 2026
    Time: 10:00 AM (Bucharest Time / EET)

    @host_c you promised my server a reboot, where is it? add diks to my vps while at it

    my server was not rebooted either, i'm losing millions! oh, wait... :D

    You are losing millions? I lose billions! The end is nigh! I was hoping for Romania to bounce back with strong power and great might and insane numbers. I believe, I want to believe, I must resist. You can do this @host_c !

    Thanked by 2rpqu host_c
  • @host_c said:
    We delayed the reboot as we also did some FW updates.

    Nodes are getting restarted right now.

    Kudos for doing a proper shutdown sequence, not every provider is at that level yet, it's a premium feature!

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    2 more nodes to go, we do them 1 by 1 so we limit the downtime.

    we will announce the end of the maintenance via e-mail once it is done.

    Thanked by 3JohnnySac eliphas Shot2
  • My vps is up already, nice!

    Thanked by 1oloke
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