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Discord moving to face ID

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  • LeviLevi Member

    @david said:
    My impression of discord, from when I tried it years ago, was that it was a cluttered mess and very unpleasant to try to use.

    For me it was a place where only kids gather. All emojy, gifs, flashes, “nitro” and other dopamine generators. Nothing which could grab gen z attention. I like calm and structured applications: jabber, irc.

  • @Levi said:

    @david said:
    My impression of discord, from when I tried it years ago, was that it was a cluttered mess and very unpleasant to try to use.

    For me it was a place where only kids gather. All emojy, gifs, flashes, “nitro” and other dopamine generators. Nothing which could grab gen z attention. I like calm and structured applications: jabber, irc.

    Yes, the clutter is both in the application itself, and the "content" it often seems to inspire.

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  • XMPP/Jabber & Session are best anonymose privacy dm messenger service

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  • @beanman109 said:

    @default said:
    Matrix looks as the obvious solution here, but it is quite abused in distributing really bad content.

    A great comment from that Youtube video that pretty much sums up this entire argument.

    Streets are used by criminals, email is used by criminals money is used by criminals.
    If you want a censor proof system you have to accept that it is not only used by 'the good guys'.
    Freedom of speech comes with a price

    Clearly honeypot technology like all 'free' big tec. Your data is their income.

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  • DataRecoveryDataRecovery Member
    edited February 11

    @yoursunny said:

    @DataRecovery said:
    Switch to Telegram. The best messenger these days (and probably ever).
    Not ultra-private, most anonymous (requires a phone number), etc., but by far the most convenient and feature-packed.

    We have Telegram app but it's barebone, only single channel

    Your channel looks lovely! :heart:
    https://t.me/s/yoursunnygirls

    No push-ups for some reason though.

    Washington Post says to use Signal.

    The report, which focused on Brett Goldstein, a former director of the Defense Digital Service, found that Goldstein violated department policies by using Signal "to discuss official DoD information" and encouraging subordinates to communicate with him on the encrypted messaging app.

    "Signal is not approved by the DoD as an authorized electronic messaging and voice-calling application," the report asserted

    https://abcnews.com/Business/what-is-signal-messaging-encryption/story?id=120129513

    A Pentagon-wide advisory warned against using the messaging app, even for unclassified information:
    https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability

    signal vulnerability

    @rpqu said:
    WhatsApp is bad for long-term use.

    @Guru555 said:

    @DataRecovery said:

    @Andreix said:
    Meh... sticking with telegram for now...

    This.

    Switch to Telegram. The best messenger these days (and probably ever).
    Not ultra-private, most anonymous (requires a phone number), etc., but by far the most convenient and feature-packed.

    Numerous phone clients, most are open-source.

    Desktop client is awesome and a native app (no Electron!).
    Fully theme-able and customizable. Even better than Skype in its golden days.
    Also open-source with a few forks.

    @nikio said:
    Discord wanted my ID to continue writing bots for them. I told them to fuck off

    You don't need any special verification to create Telegram bots.

    One of the top Telegram features actually. Multiple SDKs to choose from.
    Or just use Python / PHP / bash.

    Yes, you can receive unlimited notifications from your VPS free of charge and without installing anything (just cURL).

    You can purchase an anonymous number on Fragment using TON

    Yeah, have seen that feature, but it's a bit unclear to me.
    Your TG account is tied to the phone number. Unsure what's necessary to own that virtual number forever.

    Otherwise you'll either have to link another number to your acc-t, or a new owner will be able to "reset" your account in a week or two and create a new one instead.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    Yeah, it's bad.

    @Guru555 said:

    @DataRecovery said:

    @Andreix said:
    Meh... sticking with telegram for now...

    This.

    Switch to Telegram. The best messenger these days (and probably ever).
    Not ultra-private, most anonymous (requires a phone number), etc., but by far the most convenient and feature-packed.

    Numerous phone clients, most are open-source.

    Desktop client is awesome and a native app (no Electron!).
    Fully theme-able and customizable. Even better than Skype in its golden days.
    Also open-source with a few forks.

    @nikio said:
    Discord wanted my ID to continue writing bots for them. I told them to fuck off

    You don't need any special verification to create Telegram bots.

    One of the top Telegram features actually. Multiple SDKs to choose from.
    Or just use Python / PHP / bash.

    Yes, you can receive unlimited notifications from your VPS free of charge and without installing anything (just cURL).

    You can purchase an anonymous number on Fragment using TON

    Yeah, have seen that feature, but it's a bit unclear to me.
    Your TG account is tied to the phone number. Unsure what's necessary to own that virtual number forever.

    Otherwise you'll either have to link another number to your acc-t, or a new owner will be able to "reset" your account in a week or two and create a new one instead.

    You're supposed to add two-step verification password. Then, they can't use your account

  • zedzed Member

    @david said:

    @Levi said:

    @david said:
    My impression of discord, from when I tried it years ago, was that it was a cluttered mess and very unpleasant to try to use.

    For me it was a place where only kids gather. All emojy, gifs, flashes, “nitro” and other dopamine generators. Nothing which could grab gen z attention. I like calm and structured applications: jabber, irc.

    Yes, the clutter is both in the application itself, and the "content" it often seems to inspire.

    it's an absolute trash pile,
    but it's easier to use than everything else,
    with more of the bits to cover most use cases,
    don't forget it's free FREE free,
    and everybody is already using it.

    the best part is if something does come along to kill discord we'll be having the same conversation because companies don't put this effort in without long-term plans to monetize the data.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @DataRecovery said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @DataRecovery said:
    Switch to Telegram. The best messenger these days (and probably ever).
    Not ultra-private, most anonymous (requires a phone number), etc., but by far the most convenient and feature-packed.

    We have Telegram app but it's barebone, only single channel

    Your channel looks lovely! :heart:
    https://t.me/s/yoursunnygirls

    No push-ups for some reason though.

    This ain't our account.
    Please search +18044578669 .

    Washington Post says to use Signal.

    The report, which focused on Brett Goldstein, a former director of the Defense Digital Service, found that Goldstein violated department policies by using Signal "to discuss official DoD information" and encouraging subordinates to communicate with him on the encrypted messaging app.

    "Signal is not approved by the DoD as an authorized electronic messaging and voice-calling application," the report asserted

    https://abcnews.com/Business/what-is-signal-messaging-encryption/story?id=120129513

    A Pentagon-wide advisory warned against using the messaging app, even for unclassified information:
    https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability

    Washington Post says to contact their reporters via Signal.
    We have the book Signals and Systems and we've been tapping Morse code on the "Signal" for weeks but never heard back from reporter.

  • I have requested the deletion of my Discord account.

    Fun fact: they won't delete my account; instead they'll wait for me to login for 14 days, in case I change my mind.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @sunnyg said:

    Under the new system, users who do not verify themselves as adults will face restrictions on accessing age-restricted servers and channels. They will also be unable to participate in Stage channels, encounter filters on graphic or sensitive content, and receive warning prompts for friend requests from unfamiliar users. Direct messages from unknown accounts will automatically be routed to a separate inbox.

    I'm pretty sure for majority of the discord users, nothing will change. This is most likely targeting those who are part of discord servers related to pr0n.

    That may be so but many, probably most, will not care about or even know those details. In fact I've already seen multiple indications for "nuh, thanks no. I'll look for some alternative" and even first lists comparing alternatives.

    Besides, I'm certainly not the only one thinking, that now they limit it (as described by you), but sooner or later they'd do it generally, no exceptions.

    TL;DR fuck discord! and my guess is they'll likely go belly up or at least become insignificant.

  • zedzed Member

    @jsg said: TL;DR fuck discord! and my guess is they'll likely go belly up or at least become insignificant.

    well i agree with the fuck discord part but while we're moaning about them being evil everybody else in the world is just clicking ok and carrying on as they're already used to the new normal.

    i mean if we're campaigning to kill them i'm there with you rah rah but reality doesn't give a shit what we think.

    discord isn't going anywhere.

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  • 3K333K33 Member, Host Rep
    edited February 11

    @default said:
    I have requested the deletion of my Discord account.

    Fun fact: they won't delete my account; instead they'll wait for me to login for 14 days, in case I change my mind.

    If i remember correctly, even after 14 days, whole data deletion takes 30 days (by deletion, it means anonymization). Everything you ever posted on Discord stays there.

    You can only manually remove messages. Super gay.

  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    what is mate ricks? @emgh

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @oloke said:
    what is mate ricks? @emgh

    cant say

    sivir

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited February 11

    @3K33 said:

    @default said:
    I have requested the deletion of my Discord account.

    Fun fact: they won't delete my account; instead they'll wait for me to login for 14 days, in case I change my mind.

    If i remember correctly, even after 14 days, whole data deletion takes 30 days (by deletion, it means anonymization). Everything you ever posted on Discord stays there.

    You can only manually remove messages. Super gay.

    They can keep whatever I posted; I don't care. I simply want out, while I still can.

    EDIT: here is some info - basically all messages don't get deleted (from a deleted account), instead they appear under a "deleted_user" username.

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited February 11

    [Deleted - Oops, wrong thread, sorry]

  • https://discordomicon.github.io/removal/overview/

    if you care about your privacy and data, i suggest taking a look at https://discuss.privacyguides.net/, its been very helpful for me

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  • @lichade said:
    https://discordomicon.github.io/removal/overview/

    if you care about your privacy and data, i suggest taking a look at https://discuss.privacyguides.net/, its been very helpful for me

    Thank you very much. I reactivated my account and requested all my messages. Let's see how this goes after I request removal.

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  • When I requested my discord messages a few days ago, it said it might take 30 days 😭

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @aluy said:
    "For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check."

    ?

    https://vxtwitter.com/discord/status/2021295316469940606

    IMO a typical corp. PR move after seeing that their original plan meets way more resistance than expected.
    And highly likely it just means that they'll do what they planned anyway, just in a somewhat different way.

    Btw, this also works as a test for them. If one stays due to their PR one basically "signs" that one is basically careless, easily manipulated plus likely stupid and possibly already dependent.

    The relevant question is: do you TRUST them?

    After what they've attempted the answer clearly is NO

  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    I skipped the pages, but this exists fyi

    https://age-verifier.kibty.town/

  • ^ Already patched unfortunately.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @Ympker said: I should finally read 1984 before it's banished or something. Maybe it's even available for free given it's age🤔

    I just read it a month ago. One of those "I should get around to reading it" things.

    It sucked.

    Some sf stories really should just be essays where the author says “I have this speculative idea” instead of trying to manhandle the idea into tortured prose.  1984 is such a story…but even worse, it’s prose AND essay (the middle third of the book is a character reading a nonfiction book as a way of clumsily inserting a long section of telling instead of showing).  

    Plus long philosophical screeds and debates stuffed in character’s mouths. This could have been edited down (maybe) to a serviceable short story, though I hated all the characters, so I wouldn't have wanted to read that, either.

  • @Ympker said:
    I should finally read 1984 before it's banished or something. Maybe it's even available for free given it's age🤔

    It's often referenced, so you might read it for general knowledge, but it is often referenced wrong (so the less you know, the less you suffer LOL).

    1984 shows forced coerction with strict brainwashing, while the world we live in is a lot closer depicted in "Brave New World" (Huxley). That is also a high-quality dystopian novel, and 1984 is torture porn in comparison.

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  • There is Rocket.Chat

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  • op23op23 Member

    Easy, just use the death stranding way to verify. Done.

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  • @bikegremlin said:

    @Ympker said:
    I should finally read 1984 before it's banished or something. Maybe it's even available for free given it's age🤔

    It's often referenced, so you might read it for general knowledge, but it is often referenced wrong (so the less you know, the less you suffer LOL).

    1984 shows forced coerction with strict brainwashing, while the world we live in is a lot closer depicted in "Brave New World" (Huxley). That is also a high-quality dystopian novel, and 1984 is torture porn in comparison.

    Thanks for bringing this up. I'll look into that one, too :)

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  • @raindog308 said:

    @Ympker said: I should finally read 1984 before it's banished or something. Maybe it's even available for free given it's age🤔

    I just read it a month ago. One of those "I should get around to reading it" things.

    It sucked.

    Some sf stories really should just be essays where the author says “I have this speculative idea” instead of trying to manhandle the idea into tortured prose.  1984 is such a story…but even worse, it’s prose AND essay (the middle third of the book is a character reading a nonfiction book as a way of clumsily inserting a long section of telling instead of showing).  

    Plus long philosophical screeds and debates stuffed in character’s mouths. This could have been edited down (maybe) to a serviceable short story, though I hated all the characters, so I wouldn't have wanted to read that, either.

    One does not read 1984 for entertainment.

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited February 15

    1984 is not that great book, but the quotes of "the party" resonate when politicians start taking control through tyrannic actions.

    • "War is peace" - this is underlined today because we initiate threats and wars for some greater good. For example EU wants more guns, weapons, and nuclear arsenal, even though a war will engulf the whole planet with destruction. We way have more than 400 nuclear warheads (minimum enough to destroy the whole planet), and yet we need more weapons since nobody wants to end wars for the idea of peace. The idea of pace is seen through war first, when actually there will be nothing left after said war. And all this when EU should have remained an alliance of peaceful economic trade through diplomacy (not through warfare).
    • "Freedom is slavery" - this fits well with working more for less. Nowadays we own nothing, everything gets more and more expensive but at least we have freedom, even though that freedom is constantly monitored against dissent. There were even elections cancelled out of fear that people were influenced and they would have lost their freedom otherwise.
    • "Ignorance is strength" - this one fits great on nowadays censorship. We should not have wrong thinking, otherwise police comes to our doors (lots of cases in UK already, while personalities from EU were sanctioned for their books or posts). Freedom of expression is out the window, while even social media bans accounts if they're against the official narrative.

    I don't want to politicise this thread, but unfortunately the main ideas of the book are starting to become more and more valid nowadays; this is why that book gains so much popularity nowadays.

    Back on topic: Discord needs people IDs, because of... children. Yeah right. Though some adults will show "strength" and present their IDs; it is why Discord even had 70.000 IDs to leak in October 2025.

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  • jcnjcn Member

    In other news, "Discord advises UK users that they "may be part of an experiment" where instead of their age verification data never leaving their phone, it will now actually leave their phone"

    https://www.eurogamer.net/discord-advises-uk-users-that-they-may-be-part-of-an-experiment-where-instead-of-their-age-verification-data-never-leaving-their-phone-it-will-now-actually-leave-their-phone

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