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That's not an excuse for buyer abusive behavior/ customer harassment e.g being a karen
"I'm sorry babe, but I gotta choose the $7/y VPS in this situation."
At least the VPS isn't being abusive, is it?
Coercion, consent, duress, abusive, public humiliation, are you being serious right now? None of that has any place here, stop the madness.
Huh, my three VPSes from them aren't having those kinds of issues, even while pegging the CPUs at 80-100%, pushing 250 Mbps per VPS with several thousand sockets open, and doing very heavy random I/O on the disk 24/7. I must be lucky not to have any aggressive, resource-hogging neighbors.
Nope, that's just signs your vps being abusive at you. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. It doesn't mean my experience with deluxhost is that bad
Awful
before it’s impending doom, make a transfer post on nodeseek requesting $100 for it. 😎
Oh, think about those poor MJJs
I have to agree with @jsg here. I won't be renewing my Z-4 server, not because of the price increase, but because I'm not happy with the uptime. It is 99.7% acording to HetrixTools, which is not terrible but it is still the worst of all the servers I have. If the price increase improves the uptime then €18/yr is still great value.
Nah some amount of professionalism is respected (I think by me)
This is way better of a response (if this wasn't written by Chatgpt) then whatever the thing veloxmedia was doing.
One of the first VPS"s I tried was deluxhost's. I liked them but I never really used them aside from just a wow factor (first time joined let) and I had heard that their hdd was a hit or miss (I had a benchmark yabs for myself but I think it might have gotten lost or something)
I don't know man. Shit changed so fast in 1 year, I'd much rather they be more reasonable right now than be dead pooler like velox.
I'd looked at being a cloud provider or reseller and the AI bubble had a genuine impact so much so that I quit that idea & I'd be more open to work in companies that already got the investment.
I was worried that AI will raise the prices of the servers and it kind of happened.
FUCK AI.
Hey, deluxhost, I understand server costs are high right now, but when they get low (after the AI bubble bursts) would you be open to cheapen the deals back or similar? (does feel a bit unlikely to me but still, gotta ask)
Deluxhost man, its a tough market to be in right now especially in the lowendspace because you really can't expand or save money as all the money you will save which could've been your income is probably gonna go into buying hardware to expand.
You are being transparent and I respect it. I just have a few questions but can you tell me how profitable you have been and not been, I just need transparency on how much you sort of "earn" from the servers on average and on high/low cost (because I had a basically idle when I was using your service so you got my 2$ for free haha)
Good luck man and I have written things like this where I would much rather fund sustainability than not and there are always other options and yea its sad that it came to this but shit changed so unpredictably so I don't know
I haven't continued my deal tho after the 2$ as I got myself a netcup deal later in a moment of spur moment for 3-4 months which is also recurring and I love that recurring part about netcup right now so I don't know if netcup might be impacted by AI too.
Perhaps the large datacenter companies like hetzner,ovh others might be able to eat some costs of hardware ram from their large contracts probably.
Racknerd/Dedirock are some good options here as well (I hope that they don't raise prices but I don't really have a use for them either)
Anyways, I may have gotten offtopic but as a former buyer you can say and an enthusiast can you please tell me more about some transparency reports on how much you earn (if you want, you can mention it in %'s so for example on average how much % is your profit on a 5$ deal/month on something like LET and how much after the update and what are your plans moving forward since I think this might help you gain some credibility in a place which called your response AI and I am only the first page of the discussion)
Clearly premeditated ?
Don't make me defend a company over the community but someone here mentioned how they reinvested all the profits into hardware and ram got ramflated to 4x the price.
I understand what you are trying to say and I got no skin in the game but these are the reasons why we are probably not gonna see new companies be able to compete if they haven't already bought enough hardware.
It sucks but don't go ahead calling it out premeditated. If you really want premeditated, look at veloxmedia's deadpool.
If they provide you financials that they are genuinely losing money or some logic behind it lets say, (which I feel is the reason and I have also asked them a transparency report if possible) and suppose they provide it.
And you combine it with the insane rise of price of RAM right now
Would you still call it premeditated?
IANAL but premeditated feels like defamation especially when you provide no context
If it was premeditated,then they would've known the rising prices of ram, and if they would've known it, they wouldn't be selling here lowendboxes but rather buying warehouses of ram ddr4/ddr5 sticks
I think what's happening here is that they had some margins (I think some low income as it was a business starting out and most of the income was supposed to be reinvested and grow quicker)
Now what might've taken them x time to recoup the money might take them 4x time all of a sudden and their growth basically gets shrinked and they are just limited for the time being on much likely a very low income but they did it for the idea of growth but that got shut down and they are doing this to atleast make the business sustainable
I am pretty sure that there can be even more to it than this.
And this is why I am asking a transparency report of all the financials of Deluxmedia if possible. Share how things are run and where AI prices actually impacted and people would be kinder (or atleast I hope so) because they are a small business most likely run by a single guy.
Bro don't put veloxmedia's script kiddy server owner to deluxmedia. The order of damage caused by veloxmedia's have been in 10's of thousands of dollars immediately with complete unsustainability.
I agree man I dont want prices rising either but I dont want deluxmedia to deadpool either exactly how Velox did so I am willing to hear their side of the story if they provide financial reports and some backing behind it (evidence)
SO TLDR: I am waiting to make opinions on if this is a scam or a genuine demand for help/issue by deluxmedia on the basis of (if) they provide us the community transparency reports.
So the community should rally around transparency reports first and then make an opinion imo
Are they leasing hardware or are they renting servers from another VPS?
Could be the fact that operational costs have also increased while the capital costs to expand have also grown in many cases 4x
I just saw a quote TODAY for 32GB RAM sticks for AMD Ryzen builds -- now $1200/stick.
Holy cow. I am new to hardware tinkering but what was the price of this before AI crisis?
Also another thing but I wrote in another post but consider it the end of newcomers making vps providers or similar most likely.
(Another offtopic but now that you are here , I think you are the creator of vpspricetracker so can you please create an open source database or share a sqlite database because I wanted to do some cost analysis from all the lists of vps's that vpspricetracker mentions out of my curiosity. I would greatly appreciate it and have a nice day man!)
A 256GB DDR5 (4x64GB) Crucial kit before this was $600. Now a similar kit is $2600+ for Crucial or $4000+ from other brands. Not including taxes.
Yeah roughly the same experience.
This is not something I am affiliated with, sorry.
I own LowEndBox, LowEndTalk and ServerVerify.com.
They still have the offer active, meaning they did the mathematics. Hardware which was bought with customer preorders is already theirs. It runs and customers are happy.
Newer hardware which is expensive should have a different price just for new orders of cloud services. Let's make a difference between existing customers with existing plans, and new orders which might need to cover new investments in future.
For now one thing is sure: orders which were paid are getting more expensive, 1 week before their first plan's renewal, even though the provider still offers deals reduced. This is like saying this is an offer for the first billing period only - when it was advertised as recurring. So yeah: it is premeditated.
That is absolutely insane. I know we're mostly talking about prices from a host's perspective in this thread, but no consumer can deal with that. What is going to happen to NewEgg when the only products they can source are not in any way affordable to most of their customers.
Damn thanks for your reply, yeaa 100% no new brands are gonna enter the market for sometime.
I talked to my father about opening up datacenter in his rental office (considering he works in broadband business with 25 years of experience) and I have always been interested in server hosting and (currently I was working on a firecracker vm ssh custom solution out of curiosity)
Anyways, I did some cost analysis on top of my head and even the initial investments won't make sense at all. That's when we have got unlimited bandwidth, office space and cheap power where I live.
Especially when you factor in the fact that the pricees of these sticks are gonna go down a lot after the Ai bubble crashes which is gonna happen sooner than later.
I am willing to wait out and experiment more with firecracker and something new ideas to build my own cloud or partner up with existing solutions.
Currently I recommend to most of the people online to stick with someone reputable like hetzner or ovh or upcloud usually (netcup/dedirock/racknerd are pretty good as well)
Hey, Good day bro! firstly how you doing man, hope you are having a lowk nice day!
Yea I didn't know about the 1 week beforehand I was on page 1 or 2 I hadn't read the whole 1 week premeditated fact but now I kind of have and it does feel a little shady ngl
What would be a happy ending to this solution though if things truly are unsustainable lets say (they mention power price increase as well which can be real concern)
I feel like a way is if they can provide a % deal comparison from beforehand and afterwards to satisfy what someone said in page1/2 about they should've done but the end result should still be the same that price ends up increasing.
I am on the much more monthly gang so to me a price increase in next cycle a few days ago doesn't feel as big of an issue (usually) than some yearly gang (which some of you might be)
Sooo any solutions? I have asked them for transparency reports I guess.
I just don't know man but the things which is stinking me right now from delux is the 1 week part, I mean, what if they allow it for another year for people to do so, or fix the 1 week part which is making me feel too that its very spooky and just a bad reputation man.
Theoretically, if they are supporting people to buy hardware just 1 week before and then after 1 week was when they started initially posting deals and people bought.
These people can technically just buy a new server 1 week ago for the price & then migrate to the new vps
But migrating takes hassle and theoretically what they are doing is indeed shady because if everyone were to do this they wouldn't really gain anything.
So it feels like they are intentionally doing this in such a manner to make people who wish to renew to make them intentionally renew on new prices whereas technically what I am feeling like is that there really is no difference between such a renew and the buying it one week ago idea and migrating for the server side but its hard for the consumer so most might not and then end up paying more for something like this which feels like a shitty thing to do intentionally trying to extract maximum profit from people which is the antithetical to like, sustainability simply because reputation is part of sustainability is well.
I didn't know the additional context of 1 week, yea they should respond about this 1 week part especially, Does feel like something shady might be happening now from this context that you reshared to me.
Which reminds me to give myself a raise next time I talk into the mirror.
Deals when?
You did not raise it for yourself? I look in the mirror and mine looks bigger every month. When I die, I hope to die with a beautiful lady near me, a beer in my hand, and a huge raise.
Their usual 2 week deals are still active. Here.
I'll give him £1 for it.
Lol nah. Been a costly year so spent it on making the hot intern stay with us by offering a good deal
That is 2x 16 GB DDR5 and it is 3600 to 4700 RON, that is 850-1086 USD with 21% VAT.
Hmm, I think I will sell my Office PC's and go back to DDR3, I think I also have some DDR2 laying around....
A 1 TB NVME, WD Blue is ~180 to 230 USD - lol, I think I will just pull out the 6.4 TB AIC cards we have and sell
Well, did I ever say I
this Job ? 
Can't wait to see the prices on 32 GB VGA cards.
This price for individual customers, the business has different price. I believe you could order it in another country, where it sold cheaper. But maybe better strategy just wait while prices are back? Just do not buy new hardware for now.