Velox media under new management

network · January 10

How much $$ do you think Lewis made from this scam?

pba09391 · January 10

me when my $0.50 for 10 years 8TB ram VPS is shut down

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@VeloxMedia said:

@default said:

@jsg said:
@Saragoldfarb and a few others

Do you really still believe that basically spamming this thread and vaguely threatening will somehow magically achieve to make Eric do as you wish?

Sorry but this whole clusterfuck gets increasingly ridiculous.

Mark my words: you will not succeed. Eric will continue to do as he sees fit!
And frankly, I can't disagree with him. Yes, even if I'd lose my VPS, which remember, Eric at least so far provides for free!

I hope you two grab your hands and your dicks and ride happily into the sunset.

Meanwhile @VeloxMedia will never get their provider back on LET due to extortion using precisely LET plans and LET customers. And since this behaviour also qualifies under "don't be a dick" rule (no offence intended towards the one which you hold in your hand), I would suggest a ban from moderators towards @VeloxMedia for extortion.

I keep stating this. I have zero intention on selling here and am just here for entertainment purposes only.

They violated their terms with us by suspending our provider and not providing steps to reinstate, they took Lewis's money and didn't offer a refund or credit for the suspension days. It's been 2 weeks and nothing. They asked yesterday about it and we asked again and no response but they commented here so obviously were online to read my response.

Perfectly fine as it's their business and we'll choose if we decide to seek legal action (for other things). But we won't be doing business with them. We're not on here constantly posting and causing issues, we sent a formal letter, got their info and followed proper legal procedures.

But their poor business practices is one of the main reasons we don't care about our reputation on here or these agreements so will just cancel them and only them.

We'll honor all non let agreements and take all these massive promos and offer them to new customers on other sites.

There's only one issue... A lot of people from here... Are also on the other sites... So yeh...

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@default said:

@VeloxMedia said:
I keep stating this. I have zero intention on selling here and am just here for entertainment purposes only.

Good for you. It is good to know you are not interested in LET. That is great news.

They violated their terms with us by suspending our provider [...]

Company was changed. Suspension is normal. The owner is different and need to justify themselves.

[...] and not providing steps to reinstate,

I don't know what discussion you had with admins, but if you refused to identify yourself like you did here and also refused to state your plans with regards to advertised plans done on this forum, then most likely you were denied.

they took Lewis's money and didn't offer a refund or credit for the suspension days.

Like you say: it was with Lewis, another owner.

It's been 2 weeks and nothing. They asked yesterday about it and we asked again and no response but they commented here so obviously were online to read my response.

People here don't have access to that, so as a member I can't comment.

Perfectly fine as it's their business and we'll choose if we decide to seek legal action (for other things). But we won't be doing business with them.

Absolutely awesome.

We're not on here constantly posting and causing issues, we sent a formal letter, got their info and followed proper legal procedures.

But their poor business practices is one of the main reasons we don't care about our reputation on here or these agreements so will just cancel them and only them.

We'll honor all non let agreements and take all these massive promos and offer them to new customers on other sites.

As you wish. Your business, your decisions, your consequences.

Just wait till I've posted the conversay and proof I have where he stole my money and made 2 unauthorized CC charges, then threatened me and cancelled my server.

That's when he will get banned, cos he admitted to it.

Would need another thread though.

forest · January 10

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@default said:

@jsg said:
@Saragoldfarb and a few others

Do you really still believe that basically spamming this thread and vaguely threatening will somehow magically achieve to make Eric do as you wish?

Sorry but this whole clusterfuck gets increasingly ridiculous.

Mark my words: you will not succeed. Eric will continue to do as he sees fit!
And frankly, I can't disagree with him. Yes, even if I'd lose my VPS, which remember, Eric at least so far provides for free!

I hope you two grab your hands and your dicks and ride happily into the sunset.

Meanwhile @VeloxMedia will never get their provider back on LET due to extortion using precisely LET plans and LET customers. And since this behaviour also qualifies under "don't be a dick" rule (no offence intended towards the one which you hold in your hand), I would suggest a ban from moderators towards @VeloxMedia for extortion.

I keep stating this. I have zero intention on selling here and am just here for entertainment purposes only.

They violated their terms with us by suspending our provider and not providing steps to reinstate, they took Lewis's money and didn't offer a refund or credit for the suspension days. It's been 2 weeks and nothing. They asked yesterday about it and we asked again and no response but they commented here so obviously were online to read my response.

Perfectly fine as it's their business and we'll choose if we decide to seek legal action (for other things). But we won't be doing business with them. We're not on here constantly posting and causing issues, we sent a formal letter, got their info and followed proper legal procedures.

But their poor business practices is one of the main reasons we don't care about our reputation on here or these agreements so will just cancel them and only them.

We'll honor all non let agreements and take all these massive promos and offer them to new customers on other sites.

There's only one issue... A lot of people from here... Are also on the other sites... So yeh...

Not only on other LE sites, but even on non-English sites and sites that pay much higher budgets. It's a small word, and I tried to warn Eric about that before. And even if he changes the name of the company, people will find out.

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@VeloxMedia said:

@default said:

@VeloxMedia said:
I keep stating this. I have zero intention on selling here and am just here for entertainment purposes only.

Good for you. It is good to know you are not interested in LET. That is great news.

They violated their terms with us by suspending our provider [...]

Company was changed. Suspension is normal. The owner is different and need to justify themselves.

[...] and not providing steps to reinstate,

I don't know what discussion you had with admins, but if you refused to identify yourself like you did here and also refused to state your plans with regards to advertised plans done on this forum, then most likely you were denied.

they took Lewis's money and didn't offer a refund or credit for the suspension days.

Like you say: it was with Lewis, another owner.

It's been 2 weeks and nothing. They asked yesterday about it and we asked again and no response but they commented here so obviously were online to read my response.

People here don't have access to that, so as a member I can't comment.

Perfectly fine as it's their business and we'll choose if we decide to seek legal action (for other things). But we won't be doing business with them.

Absolutely awesome.

We're not on here constantly posting and causing issues, we sent a formal letter, got their info and followed proper legal procedures.

But their poor business practices is one of the main reasons we don't care about our reputation on here or these agreements so will just cancel them and only them.

We'll honor all non let agreements and take all these massive promos and offer them to new customers on other sites.

As you wish. Your business, your decisions, your consequences.

Again just stating that the same issue that people are claiming lewis did to them happened from LET.

No refusal to identify or provide any information to anyone who required it like them, we asked what they needed and no response.

But yes great for us all. Back to the real entertainment. Guess we're fully compliant and no more issues with GDPR or anything else. Everyone's happy and we're cancelling services and deleting data so all good

Still not compliant but you know...

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@VeloxMedia said:

@plumberg said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@alfatarsos said:

@jsg said:

@alfatarsos said:
Answering a previous question Velox has left unanswered, because I know the answer for that: he's being able to mark customers as fraud at bank/gateway level despite the account being Lewis's because Stripe and PayPal can create sub-users and have specific account management permissions, including access to refunds. He has a sub-user just for that, allowed by Lewis.

Which does mean that yes, he also has access to several user data at the payment gateway level as well. Not only on WHMCS. And can very easily justify a transaction as fraudulent if e.g. data at the gateway doesn't check out with the data voluntarily provided by the customer.

Interesting point! But do you really know and have evidence that he does have that kind of access?

P.S. I'm not fully up to date and didn't even glance over the last few pages.

The way it was described, he's not doing that like I thought (by a separate user direct on Stripe's dashboard), but through an API request which then provides user data, since he took over the API key.

He overengineered this, in my opinion, for the same result.

You can search for "Stripe secondary user Access" and see WHMCS's FAQs for the Stripe module - there's always an API request with a key. It's valid for every billing platform, including Blesta, WiseCP, etc.

Yupp. We did it separately because we aren't using whmcs for this. WHMCS isn't compliant for our systems we're SOC2

Is it correct that the API key is being used illegally (even though its left by the previous owner of the whmcs instance)?

More akin to - the door is unlocked, so one can go in and steal grab things... and blame on the door being unlocked for robbery.

Narcissist I say.

What are you talking about? No that's not correct at all. Nothing at all isn't legal or outside any compliance.

Whmcs isn't SOC2 capable software as it's wildly insecure so we aren't using it for anything confidential. We're an enterprise company with SOC2 so all our financial go through a fully compliant system. We built an integration to connect that into our veloxmedia whmcs instance so accounting can do their thing securely while keeping all veloxmedia data in whmcs which doesn't need to be SOC2 or anything high security.

You're collecting PII by doing that you.

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@VeloxMedia said:

@jsg said:

@VeloxMedia said:
We'll honor all non let agreements and take all these massive promos and offer them to new customers on other sites.

Please kindly let us know on which ones! (sincere, no sarcasm)

Right now any product in our system that says LET on it is getting terminated with a 7 day notice. So you can check your account to see if you're has that.

We already allocated all these servers plus just brought our own purchased hardware which is 4x what lewis had combined. So tons and tons of deals about to flood other sites and current customers.

Gotta figure out how to use that giveaway bot on our discord and some other promo software

Don't forget about your own DC.

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@forest said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@jsg said:

@VeloxMedia said:
We'll honor all non let agreements and take all these massive promos and offer them to new customers on other sites.

Please kindly let us know on which ones! (sincere, no sarcasm)

Right now any product in our system that says LET on it is getting terminated with a 7 day notice. So you can check your account to see if you're has that.

We already allocated all these servers plus just brought our own purchased hardware which is 4x what lewis had combined. So tons and tons of deals about to flood other sites and current customers.

Gotta figure out how to use that giveaway bot on our discord and some other promo software

The low-end hosting world is a small world and word travels fast. Even non-English speaking communities are going to have some overlap with members here, and chances are you won't be able to find anywhere that lets you in. LET is the largest community of its kind, as far as I'm aware.

Even if you have the best infrastructure, losing LET is a significant loss of income. You really should be careful about alienating these communities.

This comment deserves more appreciation people.

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@forest said:

@TeneT said:
@forest Everything was sold via LET whether or not the production name contains "LET". What I means is that owner of @VeloxMedia is releasing his anger on those who paid with the production name contains "LET". It doesn't matter the user said something here or not.

He explained it already. Some deals were LET-exclusive deals for LET users. Other deals were deals for everyone that were sold everywhere, including LET.

Where else did he sell then?

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@VeloxMedia said:

@six said:

@VeloxMedia said: I had no problem paying for it again as long as they refunded lewis the correct amount he's due so it's fair.

Okay, so why aren't you refunding us the correct amount we're due so it's fair, since you're terminating our servers?

I'm not a member of that transaction, it's between you guys.

I was planning on keeping your service active because it's fair but so much drama and issues that caused 100+ pages I'm just terminating and keeping all non LET plans.

Just look how my company is registered, part of ICO and everything and yet no one else has checked a single other company on here.

Also how Im being attacked for GDPR and yet have 30 days. And yet no one else seems to have GDPR and someone else literally violated all my discord GDPR and yet no one cares.

Lols

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@Shazan said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@six said:

@VeloxMedia said: I had no problem paying for it again as long as they refunded lewis the correct amount he's due so it's fair.

Okay, so why aren't you refunding us the correct amount we're due so it's fair, since you're terminating our servers?

I'm not a member of that transaction, it's between you guys.

I was planning on keeping your service active because it's fair but so much drama and issues that caused 100+ pages I'm just terminating and keeping all non LET plans.

Just look how my company is registered, part of ICO and everything and yet no one else has checked a single other company on here.

Also how Im being attacked for GDPR and yet have 30 days. And yet no one else seems to have GDPR and someone else literally violated all my discord GDPR and yet no one cares.

Uh? Your discord GDPR?
There is no GDPR for companies, it's only about PERSONAL data.

Not his discord even. Lewi's.

Calypso · January 10

@Saragoldfarb said:

The low-end hosting world is a small world and word travels fast. Even non-English speaking communities are going to have some overlap with members here, and chances are you won't be able to find anywhere that lets you in. LET is the largest community of its kind, as far as I'm aware.

Even if you have the best infrastructure, losing LET is a significant loss of income. You really should be careful about alienating these communities.

This comment deserves more appreciation people.

Basically I've warned for that quite some pages ago; Internet won't forget. And the more harsh you are in a certain place, the more dedicated people are to remind people about it.

tfgp99 · January 10

Good morning guys, good morning Lewis!
How's your cancellation been?

Reguards

default · January 10

@tfgp99 said:
Good morning guys, good morning Lewis!
How's your cancellation been?

Reguards

Good morning mate!

I did not cancel anything. I just let it expire. Meanwhile I made sure to not have any bank card attached to my account.

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@forest said:

@VeloxMedia said:
I was planning on keeping your service active because it's fair but so much drama and issues that caused 100+ pages I'm just terminating and keeping all non LET plans.

But you're punishing everyone for what a few people did.

Just look how my company is registered, part of ICO and everything and yet no one else has checked a single other company on here.

In retrospect, it might have been able to hire a sales agent to come here instead. Someone who has experience with community drama would have been a boon, as otherwise people will push you twice as hard as you push them. So if you fight back, all that will happen is things will escalate. Fair or not, the main difference here is that other companies haven't made people worry about their servers, so people aren't looking for reasons to criticize them.

Also how Im being attacked for GDPR and yet have 30 days. And yet no one else seems to have GDPR and someone else literally violated all my discord GDPR and yet no one cares.

I don't think Discord content counts as PII, otherwise posting it to Discord would be a GDPR violation in the first place. Discord contents are not confidential, and anyone who is in there has a right to save logs.

@MaxTakeba said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Shazan said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@six said:

@VeloxMedia said: I had no problem paying for it again as long as they refunded lewis the correct amount he's due so it's fair.

Okay, so why aren't you refunding us the correct amount we're due so it's fair, since you're terminating our servers?

I'm not a member of that transaction, it's between you guys.

I was planning on keeping your service active because it's fair but so much drama and issues that caused 100+ pages I'm just terminating and keeping all non LET plans.

Just look how my company is registered, part of ICO and everything and yet no one else has checked a single other company on here.

Also how Im being attacked for GDPR and yet have 30 days. And yet no one else seems to have GDPR and someone else literally violated all my discord GDPR and yet no one cares.

Uh? Your discord GDPR?
There is no GDPR for companies, it's only about PERSONAL data.

Yeah like when customers post screenshots of their invoices with their UK address on it in our private discord then he makes it public on his website?

Wasn't private if people could generate invites for the server
Also if you have no gate keeping or any verification if they're a customer, anyone could get into your discord server from an invite.

It's not very private... and if people are posting invoices without any redaction, that's on them. If you're not deleting those and telling them off, that is on you.
@barbarza said:
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I'd go shopping for a new outfit if only I had more time today!

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@Roxyrex said:

@malignify said:

@Roxyrex said:

@malignify said:
bro whatever you are asking is in this thread..everyone has moved on from asking those things as they have already been shared

I looked and did not found anything on Velox Media inc. in Pennsylwania and I just want to have that info added to the chargeback. Can you help me here?

they registered in ohio...and the llc too i think

https://businesssearch.ohiosos.gov/?=businessDetails/5527412
https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/ZC072447

So it's not the company they claim to be. Maybe to hide it from the payment processors?

Yes. That's why he is still trading as VeloxMedia and not VeloxMedia Inc or VeloxMedia LLC.

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@Saragoldfarb said:

@Roxyrex said:

@malignify said:

@Roxyrex said:

@malignify said:
bro whatever you are asking is in this thread..everyone has moved on from asking those things as they have already been shared

I looked and did not found anything on Velox Media inc. in Pennsylwania and I just want to have that info added to the chargeback. Can you help me here?

they registered in ohio...and the llc too i think

https://businesssearch.ohiosos.gov/?=businessDetails/5527412
https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/ZC072447

So it's not the company they claim to be. Maybe to hide it from the payment processors?

Yes. That's why he is still trading as VeloxMedia and not VeloxMedia Inc or VeloxMedia LLC.

Even if you make a purchase now, you'll be paying VeloxMedia, not VeloxMedia Inc or VeloxMedia llc

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@Roxyrex said:

@VeloxMedia said:

We're even registered with the ICO. I've posted the page with the info but you can search to verify yourself.

Can you point me where I can Find it? Who can help me?
Velox Media inc that from what I know does not exist?

Velox Media llc which is nowhere present on the site?

Eric Banks ?

Benthost LLC ?

Or should I write to your employee listed on your site in privacy policy which states:

"
If you have questions or comments about this notice, you may contact our Data Protection Officer (DPO), Lewis Edwards, by email at [email protected].
"

https://veloxmedia.co.uk/privacy-policy/

So Lewis Edwards with Eric Banks are behind all that? Can you please explain?

Solid questions.

tfgp99 · January 10

@barbarza said:
I'm a proud member of DAS - Dino's Against Scammers! @Saragoldfarb @tfgp99 @FAT32

You missed @JabJab

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@forest said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@default said:

@jsg said:
@Saragoldfarb and a few others

Do you really still believe that basically spamming this thread and vaguely threatening will somehow magically achieve to make Eric do as you wish?

Sorry but this whole clusterfuck gets increasingly ridiculous.

Mark my words: you will not succeed. Eric will continue to do as he sees fit!
And frankly, I can't disagree with him. Yes, even if I'd lose my VPS, which remember, Eric at least so far provides for free!

I hope you two grab your hands and your dicks and ride happily into the sunset.

Meanwhile @VeloxMedia will never get their provider back on LET due to extortion using precisely LET plans and LET customers. And since this behaviour also qualifies under "don't be a dick" rule (no offence intended towards the one which you hold in your hand), I would suggest a ban from moderators towards @VeloxMedia for extortion.

I keep stating this. I have zero intention on selling here and am just here for entertainment purposes only.

They violated their terms with us by suspending our provider and not providing steps to reinstate, they took Lewis's money and didn't offer a refund or credit for the suspension days. It's been 2 weeks and nothing. They asked yesterday about it and we asked again and no response but they commented here so obviously were online to read my response.

Perfectly fine as it's their business and we'll choose if we decide to seek legal action (for other things). But we won't be doing business with them. We're not on here constantly posting and causing issues, we sent a formal letter, got their info and followed proper legal procedures.

But their poor business practices is one of the main reasons we don't care about our reputation on here or these agreements so will just cancel them and only them.

We'll honor all non let agreements and take all these massive promos and offer them to new customers on other sites.

There's only one issue... A lot of people from here... Are also on the other sites... So yeh...

Not only on other LE sites, but even on non-English sites and sites that pay much higher budgets. It's a small word, and I tried to warn Eric about that before. And even if he changes the name of the company, people will find out.

Hes going to abandon the brand anyway so I dont think he cares

Roxyrex · January 10

@VeloxMedia said:

We have legal.

Earlier you kicked Andrew from discord

We are complaint, we just have time to do some things

Talk to your Data Protection Officer (DPO), Lewis Edwards as listed on your site. He might have a different opinion.

https://web.archive.org/web/20260110084236/https://veloxmedia.co.uk/privacy-policy/

So once again - can you clear this out for us and state what should we write in our chargeback tickets?

Ohio Secretary of State records show Velox Media LLC with Eric Banks( via Benthost LLC) as statuatory agent.

Your Privacy Policy lists Lewis Edwards as DPO

You stated that Velox Media inc. controls infrastructure,systems and account termination however there is no such entity in public records.

What is the actual structure here ?

Saragoldfarb · January 10

@tfgp99 said:
Good morning guys, good morning Lewis!
How's your cancellation been?

Reguards

Not cancelled yet so my website humming along nicely.

forest · January 10

@Saragoldfarb said:

@forest said:

@VeloxMedia said:
I was planning on keeping your service active because it's fair but so much drama and issues that caused 100+ pages I'm just terminating and keeping all non LET plans.

But you're punishing everyone for what a few people did.

Just look how my company is registered, part of ICO and everything and yet no one else has checked a single other company on here.

In retrospect, it might have been able to hire a sales agent to come here instead. Someone who has experience with community drama would have been a boon, as otherwise people will push you twice as hard as you push them. So if you fight back, all that will happen is things will escalate. Fair or not, the main difference here is that other companies haven't made people worry about their servers, so people aren't looking for reasons to criticize them.

Also how Im being attacked for GDPR and yet have 30 days. And yet no one else seems to have GDPR and someone else literally violated all my discord GDPR and yet no one cares.

I don't think Discord content counts as PII, otherwise posting it to Discord would be a GDPR violation in the first place. Discord contents are not confidential, and anyone who is in there has a right to save logs.

@MaxTakeba said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Shazan said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@six said:

@VeloxMedia said: I had no problem paying for it again as long as they refunded lewis the correct amount he's due so it's fair.

Okay, so why aren't you refunding us the correct amount we're due so it's fair, since you're terminating our servers?

I'm not a member of that transaction, it's between you guys.

I was planning on keeping your service active because it's fair but so much drama and issues that caused 100+ pages I'm just terminating and keeping all non LET plans.

Just look how my company is registered, part of ICO and everything and yet no one else has checked a single other company on here.

Also how Im being attacked for GDPR and yet have 30 days. And yet no one else seems to have GDPR and someone else literally violated all my discord GDPR and yet no one cares.

Uh? Your discord GDPR?
There is no GDPR for companies, it's only about PERSONAL data.

Yeah like when customers post screenshots of their invoices with their UK address on it in our private discord then he makes it public on his website?

Wasn't private if people could generate invites for the server
Also if you have no gate keeping or any verification if they're a customer, anyone could get into your discord server from an invite.

It's not very private... and if people are posting invoices without any redaction, that's on them. If you're not deleting those and telling them off, that is on you.
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I think you'll look great in that red dress.

Roxyrex · January 10

@Saragoldfarb said:

Even if you make a purchase now, you'll be paying VeloxMedia, not VeloxMedia Inc or VeloxMedia llc

If you paid recently then you can raise questions to payment processors who is actually handling all of it since I think it would be safe to assume you might be afraid that final beneficiary is not the person that was supposed to be and you just politely ask for them to verify the identity of the merchant of record/final beneficiary for the transaction.

default · January 10

@barbarza said:
I'm a proud member of DAS - Dino's Against Scammers! @Saragoldfarb @tfgp99 @FAT32

Is DAS group open? Can DAS accept new members?

Mainfrezzer · January 10

So i assume hes still larping as he has a clue what hes doing and still failed to notice that hes playing with data which he should have not gained access to in the first place?

default · January 10

@Mainfrezzer said:
So i assume hes still larping as he has a clue what hes doing and still failed to notice that hes playing with data which he should have not gained access to in the first place?

Neah. We are past that point. He is now playing with money and existing services which were advertised on LET and paid for.

barbarza · January 10

@VeloxMedia said:

@serycodes said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@serycodes said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@serycodes said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@serycodes said:
I don't know whether to be happy or sad that I didn't get an email...

All in phases 100 or so a day. No point in doing it at once.

Can you send them out a little faster? My chargeback window closes soon.

I'd hate to file a chargeback prior to receiving an official notification and be accused of fraud by a fine company such as yourself, you know.

pop a ticket requesting your data being deleted. problem solved

But that puts my server termination on myself. Big difference of being customer-requested termination and provider-forced termination. There's a huge difference there.

I signed up for a multi year agreement. If I requested termination early, I wouldn't expect a refund. If a provider pushed me out, I would.

then wait for your cancellation email

Or, you can stop dangling your "non"-customers and be upfront and timely with what you're doing. If you're going to cancel us, then cancel us. Give us the notification so we can file proper and timely chargebacks and move on with our lives.

It shouldn't be up to how Eric is feeling that day.

And yet it is. I've made this 100% clear since day one.

Are you in the EU/UK? We're only required to notify/delete those within 30 days.

Are you aware of the privacy regulations in countries other than the USA and the EU that you are required to abide by for your customers that reside in them?

TeneT · January 10

@Saragoldfarb said:

@forest said:

@TeneT said:
@forest Everything was sold via LET whether or not the production name contains "LET". What I means is that owner of @VeloxMedia is releasing his anger on those who paid with the production name contains "LET". It doesn't matter the user said something here or not.

He explained it already. Some deals were LET-exclusive deals for LET users. Other deals were deals for everyone that were sold everywhere, including LET.

Where else did he sell then?

I bet nowhere else.

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