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  • @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Didn't we have the FBI at somepoint too!?

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @barbarza said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said: we're compliant

    You? Compliant? Where? Evidences here.

    Check the ICO website. We even posted the link on here to make it easier.

    You are so compliant that the name of Lewis is still there! Don't even try lying to us.

    Is that public or

    Yes it is.

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    Gotcha, I'll stick with my team of attorneys with law degrees who specialize in GDPR.

    OK, good luck with that.

    Yupp. So on to @Saragoldfarb why won't you look into that?

    I have real work to do during the day, and my spare time is already spoken for with another time sensitive task.

    Guess you don't actually care about GDPR and people's rights. Just the double standard.

    I do very much care about GDPR. However, I only have so much time, and it's already set aside for gathering all the evidence against you into a suitable format to be handed over to ICO at the appropriate time.

    I haven't seen the thing you claim Sara has done, so I have no opinion on whether it is infringing or not. However, from what you said earlier, and knowing that you are a US citizen, it's unlikely the GDPR will be relevant.

    The hypocrisy

    Yes, you are rather good at it, aren't you?

    We need to prove that Eric doesn't actually exist and is actually 'Lewis' in the UK...

    That would be a twist. How would that make any sense? Can you explain this logic?

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  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    Eric never existed. Andrew never existed, no one else from veloxmedia exists. This is only the ol' Lewis.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

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  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    @Mainfrezzer said: "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Lewis, and simply him.

  • ralfralf Member

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Didn't we have the FBI at somepoint too!?

    Yeah, IIRC they recommended Eric extort customers for $2500/m each to keep using their $4/y server, or something like that. I don't think anybody wanted to do that and so the FBI lost interest.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • TandMTandM Member

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Didn't we have the FBI at somepoint too!?

    DHS too, so hold onto your dogs!

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @forest said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:
    Under the GDPR, any PII data concerning EU/UK citizens can only be held for justifiable business reasons established in the law and with the consent of the data subject. Any PII data needs to be deleted as soon as possible, and at a maximum of 30 days after that business use has ended.

    Eric has stated multiple times that anyone who bought a server from Veloxmedia before he took over is not his customer. If this is true, he has no justifiable business reason to hold that data and it must be deleted immediately.

    Eric's insistence that we are not his customers is exactly the reason he must delete our data.

    30 days not immediately. You even stated it here. Please cite where it says immediately.

    The text states:

    "The personal data should be adequate, relevant and limited to what is necessary for the purposes for which they are processed. This requires, in particular, ensuring that the period for which the personal data are stored is limited to a strict minimum."

    Also please show me a single case where someone has data stored and wants it deleted and we haven't. We keep requesting for this info.

    The onus is not on us to request you to delete it.

    You have obtained the PII without a legal business reason to have it, and you have not obtained our consent to use or store it. You are required by law to delete it.

    Pop a ticket with your account info and we'll delete it asap. We need to know which are EU/UK customers and GDPR required

    You have to request consent, it is illegal to assume consent without notifying the data subject.

    Sorry, but you have no legal option other than e-mail all customers acquired from Lewis informing them of the situation.

    You could try e-mailing only the ones you know to be EU/UK citizens, but if you make a mistake and miss any, then you will still be violating the law. It's safest to e-mail everybody.

    How's that e-mail going by the way, you said it'd only take you 10 minutes. Wasn't that over 24 hours ago now?

    So 30 days is perfectly fine. No where immediately see how you keep adding things that aren't true?

    Again we've already started the process of deleting the data, lots more deleting to come so no worries there.

    No need to make any announcements or anything even right?

    Come on man, please. Step back. Arguing here will only make things worse. I still want you to succeed, but you have to stop falling back into this or the drama will just get worse.

    Worse? This is entertaining. Well delete all these accounts and start fresh. Solve everyone's problems.

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  • forestforest Member

    @ralf said:

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Didn't we have the FBI at somepoint too!?

    Yeah, IIRC they recommended Eric extort customers for $2500/m each to keep using their $4/y server, or something like that. I don't think anybody wanted to do that and so the FBI lost interest.

    They just said that they won't pay for the DDoS mitigation and gave a facetiously offer to let others pay for the entire datacenter DDoS scrubbing fee. There are valid issues here, but I don't think the DDoS fee thing was extortion at all.

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  • forestforest Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @forest said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:
    Under the GDPR, any PII data concerning EU/UK citizens can only be held for justifiable business reasons established in the law and with the consent of the data subject. Any PII data needs to be deleted as soon as possible, and at a maximum of 30 days after that business use has ended.

    Eric has stated multiple times that anyone who bought a server from Veloxmedia before he took over is not his customer. If this is true, he has no justifiable business reason to hold that data and it must be deleted immediately.

    Eric's insistence that we are not his customers is exactly the reason he must delete our data.

    30 days not immediately. You even stated it here. Please cite where it says immediately.

    The text states:

    "The personal data should be adequate, relevant and limited to what is necessary for the purposes for which they are processed. This requires, in particular, ensuring that the period for which the personal data are stored is limited to a strict minimum."

    Also please show me a single case where someone has data stored and wants it deleted and we haven't. We keep requesting for this info.

    The onus is not on us to request you to delete it.

    You have obtained the PII without a legal business reason to have it, and you have not obtained our consent to use or store it. You are required by law to delete it.

    Pop a ticket with your account info and we'll delete it asap. We need to know which are EU/UK customers and GDPR required

    You have to request consent, it is illegal to assume consent without notifying the data subject.

    Sorry, but you have no legal option other than e-mail all customers acquired from Lewis informing them of the situation.

    You could try e-mailing only the ones you know to be EU/UK citizens, but if you make a mistake and miss any, then you will still be violating the law. It's safest to e-mail everybody.

    How's that e-mail going by the way, you said it'd only take you 10 minutes. Wasn't that over 24 hours ago now?

    So 30 days is perfectly fine. No where immediately see how you keep adding things that aren't true?

    Again we've already started the process of deleting the data, lots more deleting to come so no worries there.

    No need to make any announcements or anything even right?

    Come on man, please. Step back. Arguing here will only make things worse. I still want you to succeed, but you have to stop falling back into this or the drama will just get worse.

    Worse? This is entertaining. Well delete all these accounts and start fresh. Solve everyone's problems.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @forest said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:
    Under the GDPR, any PII data concerning EU/UK citizens can only be held for justifiable business reasons established in the law and with the consent of the data subject. Any PII data needs to be deleted as soon as possible, and at a maximum of 30 days after that business use has ended.

    Eric has stated multiple times that anyone who bought a server from Veloxmedia before he took over is not his customer. If this is true, he has no justifiable business reason to hold that data and it must be deleted immediately.

    Eric's insistence that we are not his customers is exactly the reason he must delete our data.

    30 days not immediately. You even stated it here. Please cite where it says immediately.

    The text states:

    "The personal data should be adequate, relevant and limited to what is necessary for the purposes for which they are processed. This requires, in particular, ensuring that the period for which the personal data are stored is limited to a strict minimum."

    Also please show me a single case where someone has data stored and wants it deleted and we haven't. We keep requesting for this info.

    The onus is not on us to request you to delete it.

    You have obtained the PII without a legal business reason to have it, and you have not obtained our consent to use or store it. You are required by law to delete it.

    Pop a ticket with your account info and we'll delete it asap. We need to know which are EU/UK customers and GDPR required

    You have to request consent, it is illegal to assume consent without notifying the data subject.

    Sorry, but you have no legal option other than e-mail all customers acquired from Lewis informing them of the situation.

    You could try e-mailing only the ones you know to be EU/UK citizens, but if you make a mistake and miss any, then you will still be violating the law. It's safest to e-mail everybody.

    How's that e-mail going by the way, you said it'd only take you 10 minutes. Wasn't that over 24 hours ago now?

    So 30 days is perfectly fine. No where immediately see how you keep adding things that aren't true?

    Again we've already started the process of deleting the data, lots more deleting to come so no worries there.

    No need to make any announcements or anything even right?

    Come on man, please. Step back. Arguing here will only make things worse. I still want you to succeed, but you have to stop falling back into this or the drama will just get worse.

    Worse? This is entertaining. Well delete all these accounts and start fresh. Solve everyone's problems.

    That's exactly what I mean. I'd rather not have my data deleted due to this. I am still happy with my services (which is not from an outrageous flash sale) and, depending on how the future unfolds, would even be willing to renew.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

  • WiseWise Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

    Might want to change your signature as you are not “uk based “

  • MainfrezzerMainfrezzer Member
    edited January 9

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

    You can be sure i did, i also read all your discord messages and well, youre contradicting yourself highly.

    Cause you were cystal clear what happend on discord :)

    But i assume, its highy inconvenient, for you that is.

    Although im still more interested on how you assume ownership of an account that this lewis owns and all of the sudden claim as your own. Thats the funky part.

    After all youre a completely fresh and new business that has some ghostly and magical non-existing but existing customers that fell into your lap somehow,

  • ralfralf Member

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    You keep asking the same questions then get upset I don't keep answering them. Then complain you don't have time. You're not very good at time management. No wonder why you charge so little and still don't have time to deal with actual problems

    No, that's all good. Thanks for confirming that is still your policy.

    @VeloxMedia
    Can you please answer these last 2 questions? You skipped a page past them, so I presume you must have overlooked them.

    Can you confirm again whether you believe these people filing chargebacks are or are not your customers?

    Final question, one that I haven't asked before...
    If you terminate the service of someone who bought one of these deals and hasn't read this thread or discord, and then they chargeback because the service was terminated without any notifications, do you believe that to be fraud as well?

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Didn't we have the FBI at somepoint too!?

    Yeah, IIRC they recommended Eric extort customers for $2500/m each to keep using their $4/y server, or something like that. I don't think anybody wanted to do that and so the FBI lost interest.

    The DC ended up paying it. Instead of us absorbing the costs we're moving services off them and onto our own DC.

    It's another case where LET just caused pain for the DC and themselves as now they're stuck with a high bill and losing us as a client, and we're moving most of our services from them to our hardware. Forcing users to change locations.

  • forestforest Member

    @jsg said:
    Well, "we" lost the fight. You lost it even though you seem to have an admin on your side and even if @VeloxMedia would lose their tag. Because you acted like a mindless herd (my intention is not to insult anyone!) and because you fought standing on a rug that didn't even need to be pulled away; it simply wasn't even existing to a large degree.

    I'm not even in the fight. There is no "we". I am just me. I want VeloxMedia to succeed. I want people to be happy with their services. I am not one of the people claiming that there's a scam going on or even bothering about GDPR in the slightest. My one and only desire was to diffuse the situation and allow people to stop talking past each other.

    While it may make me unpopular here, I find myself agreeing with you in most drama threads (before I even joined LET) because, like you, I try to look at things rationally rather than jumping to conclusions (I still have two VPSes from Calin and couldn't be happier, for example). I am most certainly not jumping on anyone, but I would also rather see VeloxMedia just take a break, because his engagement and the community's reaction to that is hurting all of us.

    And you still talk about why he is "wrong", "behaving badly", etc!

    The threats made, whether or not he has the legal authority to do so (I suspect he does), are understandably upsetting. It's not "nice" behavior. If this thread was about the behavior of LET users, I would have something very different to say, because I've seen a lot of unnecessary shit being flung from this direction as well.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Wise said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

    Might want to change your signature as you are not “uk based “

    No need we don't sell here

  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Wise said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

    Might want to change your signature as you are not “uk based “

    No need we don't sell here

    Why you're still promoting on your signature?

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  • Llamas

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    You keep asking the same questions then get upset I don't keep answering them. Then complain you don't have time. You're not very good at time management. No wonder why you charge so little and still don't have time to deal with actual problems

    No, that's all good. Thanks for confirming that is still your policy.

    @VeloxMedia
    Can you please answer these last 2 questions? You skipped a page past them, so I presume you must have overlooked them.

    Can you confirm again whether you believe these people filing chargebacks are or are not your customers?

    Final question, one that I haven't asked before...
    If you terminate the service of someone who bought one of these deals and hasn't read this thread or discord, and then they chargeback because the service was terminated without any notifications, do you believe that to be fraud as well?

    You're too busy remember.

    Why would someones service be terminated without notification? Even when we terminate or suspends them it notifies them.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Wise said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

    Might want to change your signature as you are not “uk based “

    No need we don't sell here

    Why you're still promoting on your signature?

    He can put in his sig whatever he damn pleases as long as it's not illegal or against LET's rules.
    And he certainly doesn't need to justify his sig to you!

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Wise said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

    Might want to change your signature as you are not “uk based “

    No need we don't sell here

    Why you're still promoting on your signature?

    Actually apparently they blocked my access to edit my signature when they suspended my provider tag.

  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    @jsg said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Wise said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

    Might want to change your signature as you are not “uk based “

    No need we don't sell here

    Why you're still promoting on your signature?

    He can put in his sig whatever he damn pleases as long as it's not illegal or against LET's rules.
    And he certainly doesn't need to justify his sig to you!

    I believe I wasn't addressing you directly.
    Reguards

  • ralfralf Member

    .> @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    You keep asking the same questions then get upset I don't keep answering them. Then complain you don't have time. You're not very good at time management. No wonder why you charge so little and still don't have time to deal with actual problems

    No, that's all good. Thanks for confirming that is still your policy.

    @VeloxMedia
    Can you please answer these last 2 questions? You skipped a page past them, so I presume you must have overlooked them.

    Can you confirm again whether you believe these people filing chargebacks are or are not your customers?

    Final question, one that I haven't asked before...
    If you terminate the service of someone who bought one of these deals and hasn't read this thread or discord, and then they chargeback because the service was terminated without any notifications, do you believe that to be fraud as well?

    You're too busy remember.

    Yes, I'm about to finish up for the day, so it'd be nice to know these answers before I go.

    The people filing these chargebacks for the LET deals - are they your customers? I believe you previously said you don't consider them to be.

    Why would someones service be terminated without notification? Even when we terminate or suspends them it notifies them.

    OK, so you're going to send them an e-mail confirming that the service is being terminated. That's good news, at least they will know what's happening. When that happens, and they file a chargeback, do you plan to report them all as fraud?

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:
    .> @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    You keep asking the same questions then get upset I don't keep answering them. Then complain you don't have time. You're not very good at time management. No wonder why you charge so little and still don't have time to deal with actual problems

    No, that's all good. Thanks for confirming that is still your policy.

    @VeloxMedia
    Can you please answer these last 2 questions? You skipped a page past them, so I presume you must have overlooked them.

    Can you confirm again whether you believe these people filing chargebacks are or are not your customers?

    Final question, one that I haven't asked before...
    If you terminate the service of someone who bought one of these deals and hasn't read this thread or discord, and then they chargeback because the service was terminated without any notifications, do you believe that to be fraud as well?

    You're too busy remember.

    Yes, I'm about to finish up for the day, so it'd be nice to know these answers before I go.

    The people filing these chargebacks for the LET deals - are they your customers? I believe you previously said you don't consider them to be.

    Why would someones service be terminated without notification? Even when we terminate or suspends them it notifies them.

    OK, so you're going to send them an e-mail confirming that the service is being terminated. That's good news, at least they will know what's happening. When that happens, and they file a chargeback, do you plan to report them all as fraud?

    How many times do I have to keep explaining the same thing over again?

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  • @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Wise said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @x0x0x said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    but i thought his LET account was in the hands of andrew from legal!?!

    Andrew from legal department, Eric from illegal department. They work hand in hand.

    Andrew and everyone else has constantly said shut everything down and yo> @Mainfrezzer said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    If their service is active and they chargeback without popping a ticket telling us then yes it's marked as fraud. If they tell us then no. If we terminate the account then no.

    Idk why this is so complicated I've already explained this. The system checks for active service and if there's a chargeback it'll terminate the service then file a fraud. If we terminate the service then it's not active...

    How can they have an account with you if you didnt take over the company as you stated here?

    @VeloxMedia said:
    We didn't buy a company, lewis still has the "company" and all the obligations. Just because I have a name doesn't mean I have a company or the liabilities.

    How can you terminate a service for someone that you state yourself is not a customer to "your" company, that seems clearly impossible.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    We would but our provider tag is still suspended for zero reason. As such we have zero intention of providing any sales or supporting this site in any way. We'll be having massive promotions on other sites soon.

    What do you mean with "our provider tag"? This isnt "your" account.

    Its almost like..........

    Please read the past 100 pages. This has been repeated at least 100 times

    Might want to change your signature as you are not “uk based “

    No need we don't sell here

    Why you're still promoting on your signature?

    Actually apparently they blocked my access to edit my signature when they suspended my provider tag.

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said: we're compliant

    You? Compliant? Where? Evidences here.

    Check the ICO website. We even posted the link on here to make it easier.

    You are so compliant that the name of Lewis is still there! Don't even try lying to us.

    Is that public or

    Yes it is.

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    Gotcha, I'll stick with my team of attorneys with law degrees who specialize in GDPR.

    OK, good luck with that.

    Yupp. So on to @Saragoldfarb why won't you look into that?

    I have real work to do during the day, and my spare time is already spoken for with another time sensitive task.

    Guess you don't actually care about GDPR and people's rights. Just the double standard.

    I do very much care about GDPR. However, I only have so much time, and it's already set aside for gathering all the evidence against you into a suitable format to be handed over to ICO at the appropriate time.

    I haven't seen the thing you claim Sara has done, so I have no opinion on whether it is infringing or not. However, from what you said earlier, and knowing that you are a US citizen, it's unlikely the GDPR will be relevant.

    The hypocrisy

    Yes, you are rather good at it, aren't you?

    You haven't seen the multiple posts from him with the discord dumps? Including every image with PII from a private server?

    Also the fact he stated it's his company server that he has attorney on retainer

    You so dumb. Show me where I stated that lol. I do have an attorney on retainer though. That's true.

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said: we're compliant

    You? Compliant? Where? Evidences here.

    Check the ICO website. We even posted the link on here to make it easier.

    You are so compliant that the name of Lewis is still there! Don't even try lying to us.

    Is that public or

    Yes it is.

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    Gotcha, I'll stick with my team of attorneys with law degrees who specialize in GDPR.

    OK, good luck with that.

    Yupp. So on to @Saragoldfarb why won't you look into that?

    I have real work to do during the day, and my spare time is already spoken for with another time sensitive task.

    Guess you don't actually care about GDPR and people's rights. Just the double standard.

    I do very much care about GDPR. However, I only have so much time, and it's already set aside for gathering all the evidence against you into a suitable format to be handed over to ICO at the appropriate time.

    I haven't seen the thing you claim Sara has done, so I have no opinion on whether it is infringing or not. However, from what you said earlier, and knowing that you are a US citizen, it's unlikely the GDPR will be relevant.

    The hypocrisy

    Yes, you are rather good at it, aren't you?

    You haven't seen the multiple posts from him with the discord dumps? Including every image with PII from a private server?

    Also the fact he stated it's his company server that he has attorney on retainer

    Links please.

    Never gonna happen. He know it's hosted at VeloxSomething.... My exact words.

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @magicvpn said:
    I missed 1.1k comments, but how did we get from telling people gdpr and all that stuff doesn't apply to crying about gdpr...?

    Because how data privacy laws work in other countries. US doesn't need to comply with GDPR unless we provide a product or service. But since he's in EU/UK he has to comply regardless.

    It's the difference between having a legal team that understands the law and people that Google the law.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:
    @VeloxMedia you, Eric from US, do you need to be GDPR compliant in your own country? Or the law just applies just in your favor?

    We only need to be compliant if we provide goods or services to the data subjects. Below is the law right from their site. We're not providing goods or services as we just haven't deleted the data yet.

    The law is crystal clear on this

    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

    And as I explained yesterday, this section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

    I would explain, but I've given you free advice. If you want more my day rate is $1500.

    Please explain how the other site is GDPR complaint. That's the question.

    Do you want to send me over a work order? $1500 per day. And given how sketchy you seem, that'll be $1500 before the work takes place.

    But again, I'll remind you. This section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

    I'm good we have full attorneys that are specialists in GDPR who say otherwise. Do you have a law degree?

    Good luck with that.

    Assuming you actually have attorneys, then you have ones that seemingly are both unfamiliar with the GDPR and seemingly unable to parse statutes and understand their meaning.

    Some free advice: try asking a different attorney who specialises in this stuff and see if they agree with your attorneys.

    Again why are you singling me out when he posted everyone's data publicly on the Internet??? Are you not concerned?

    I have other things to do with my time. I can only do so much pro-bono.

    Since you offered your services, again I ask do you have a law degree?

    I do not, but I have worked on compliance with data protection long enough to know unequivocally that your lawyers are wrong.

    Like I said, take my free advice - you need to get some time with a lawyer who's actually familiar with the GDPR. If you rely on your lawyer's bad advice, it's going to cost you dearly.

    You are very keen to keep posting recital 23 as your reason for non-compliance. I will tell you for free, categorically, that under recital 23, you would fall under the regulations.

    But as to your question, no I do not have a law degree. If I did, my day rate would be significantly higher than $1500.

    Gotcha, I'll stick with my team of attorneys with law degrees who specialize in GDPR.

    But I'm sure @Saragoldfarb would love some info. Why won't you explain to us about this clear violation of all our data?

    Its not your data mate. They're not your clients. They Lewis's clients. But you know....

    So, how come that people who are not his clients have all sorts of demands?

    You at least actually are or have been one of their clients. Unfortunately though you feel betrayed - be it rightfully or made up, Idk. Do you still think that talking aggressively and/or threatening will work? From what I see it does not.

    In case you actually and really sue, please inform us and provide the relevant documents (PII blacked out, of course)!

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @NotFoundException said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Yes, they just took my money.

    Yes. Thank you.

    Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

    Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

    It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

    Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

    Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

    Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

    First off I don't drink.

    Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

    You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

    You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

    Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

    I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

    Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

    Isn't this a massive breach?

    Where's my credit and why did you charge my card?

    Card is still saved? oh damn

    Yes, so make sure to wipe your payment details.

    Also watch out for automated PP subscriptions.

    You entered your credit card info into the system yesterday. Remember? You even posted about it

    Yes, so what? Your site states I won't be charged. Used as a verification measure all the time. No biggy.

    Till you made an unauthorized charge.

    So just to be clear.
    You entered the credit card info into our system.
    And you agreed to purchase service for $5 a month.
    You clicked submit order for the service.
    You used the service and posted how great and fast it was.

    Are all these correct?

    No.

    Please kindly elaborate.

    Look, he stole my money. Threatening me. Should I stay calm. You don't believe the proof I posted? He literally admitted taking my money.

    ITS all been very well documented here but I will happily open a new thread on some forums with the exact timeline, unredacted content and the money trail.

    ITS an easy win if I'd sue but I wont. You all so worried about suing but it's much simpler. I build the case, report it... Things will be set in motion. Doesn't
    cost a penny.

    That's how you perceive it, I don't doubt that.

    But your were asked concrete and simple questions by @VeloxMedia and I think you should answer them.

    He asked one. And I answered it with: no. That's an answer innit?

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @magicvpn said:
    I missed 1.1k comments, but how did we get from telling people gdpr and all that stuff doesn't apply to crying about gdpr...?

    Because how data privacy laws work in other countries. US doesn't need to comply with GDPR unless we provide a product or service. But since he's in EU/UK he has to comply regardless.

    It's the difference between having a legal team that understands the law and people that Google the law.

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:
    @VeloxMedia you, Eric from US, do you need to be GDPR compliant in your own country? Or the law just applies just in your favor?

    We only need to be compliant if we provide goods or services to the data subjects. Below is the law right from their site. We're not providing goods or services as we just haven't deleted the data yet.

    The law is crystal clear on this

    https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

    And as I explained yesterday, this section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

    I would explain, but I've given you free advice. If you want more my day rate is $1500.

    Please explain how the other site is GDPR complaint. That's the question.

    Do you want to send me over a work order? $1500 per day. And given how sketchy you seem, that'll be $1500 before the work takes place.

    But again, I'll remind you. This section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

    I'm good we have full attorneys that are specialists in GDPR who say otherwise. Do you have a law degree?

    Good luck with that.

    Assuming you actually have attorneys, then you have ones that seemingly are both unfamiliar with the GDPR and seemingly unable to parse statutes and understand their meaning.

    Some free advice: try asking a different attorney who specialises in this stuff and see if they agree with your attorneys.

    Again why are you singling me out when he posted everyone's data publicly on the Internet??? Are you not concerned?

    I have other things to do with my time. I can only do so much pro-bono.

    Since you offered your services, again I ask do you have a law degree?

    I do not, but I have worked on compliance with data protection long enough to know unequivocally that your lawyers are wrong.

    Like I said, take my free advice - you need to get some time with a lawyer who's actually familiar with the GDPR. If you rely on your lawyer's bad advice, it's going to cost you dearly.

    You are very keen to keep posting recital 23 as your reason for non-compliance. I will tell you for free, categorically, that under recital 23, you would fall under the regulations.

    But as to your question, no I do not have a law degree. If I did, my day rate would be significantly higher than $1500.

    Gotcha, I'll stick with my team of attorneys with law degrees who specialize in GDPR.

    But I'm sure @Saragoldfarb would love some info. Why won't you explain to us about this clear violation of all our data?

    Its not your data mate. They're not your clients. They Lewis's clients. But you know....

    So, how come that people who are not his clients have all sorts of demands?

    You at least actually are or have been one of their clients. Unfortunately though you feel betrayed - be it rightfully or made up, Idk. Do you still think that talking aggressively and/or threatening will work? From what I see it does not.

    In case you actually and really sue, please inform us and provide the relevant documents (PII blacked out, of course)!

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @NotFoundException said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Yes, they just took my money.

    Yes. Thank you.

    Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

    Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

    It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

    Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

    Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

    Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

    First off I don't drink.

    Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

    You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

    You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

    Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

    I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

    Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

    Isn't this a massive breach?

    Where's my credit and why did you charge my card?

    Card is still saved? oh damn

    Yes, so make sure to wipe your payment details.

    Also watch out for automated PP subscriptions.

    You entered your credit card info into the system yesterday. Remember? You even posted about it

    Yes, so what? Your site states I won't be charged. Used as a verification measure all the time. No biggy.

    Till you made an unauthorized charge.

    So just to be clear.
    You entered the credit card info into our system.
    And you agreed to purchase service for $5 a month.
    You clicked submit order for the service.
    You used the service and posted how great and fast it was.

    Are all these correct?

    No.

    Please kindly elaborate.

    Look, he stole my money. Threatening me. Should I stay calm. You don't believe the proof I posted? He literally admitted taking my money.

    ITS all been very well documented here but I will happily open a new thread on some forums with the exact timeline, unredacted content and the money trail.

    ITS an easy win if I'd sue but I wont. You all so worried about suing but it's much simpler. I build the case, report it... Things will be set in motion. Doesn't
    cost a penny.

    You should sue. You have our info on your invoice. Hire an attorney and file the suit, quit talking about it

    Why bother suing an entity that doesn't exist?

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