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Velox media under new management

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @ralf said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    And again, the irony is, even as a US citizen, he could have incorporated a UK company within 24 hours online, and none of this GDPR stuff would even have been an issue.

    Yeah I agree. He, like YOLO!

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @oloke said:

    @emgh said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @emgh said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    I'll send everything they've ever paid veloxmedia

    cant even believe when you 'likely' accused someone on LET that is attacking your DC

    I mean tbh someone probably is :D

    I know 1 is a client and have their info which will be sent to the FBI. There's a lot of other data we have about this too

    Femboy Bussy Inspector

    What did I do? :'(

    You should prolly ask, what didn't I do?

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @oloke said:

    @emgh said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @emgh said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    I'll send everything they've ever paid veloxmedia

    cant even believe when you 'likely' accused someone on LET that is attacking your DC

    I mean tbh someone probably is :D

    I know 1 is a client and have their info which will be sent to the FBI. There's a lot of other data we have about this too

    Femboy Bussy Inspector

    What did I do? :'(

    You should prolly ask, what didn't I do?

    I know for a fact I didn't buy BentoverMedia BF deal and i'm quite happy about it now.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    He basically admitted he in the us. Cut the crap.

    Even if he was in the UK, there should have been notice.

    I mean, looks at everything he posted. So many legal issues he ignores, it's beyond pathetic to defend at this stage.

    Sure, I wish him to pull this off, does he give a fuck about the law? Most definitely not.

    So will I ever trust him? Definitely not.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Roxyrex said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    Eric stated that openly in the discord chat. He had no issue with this and even mentioned selling this info to russia will be completly legal for him.

    You need anything else?

    Funny enough he also stated here that he bought veloxmedia and he now OWNS it and he has all keys to veloxmedia.co.uk which kinda makes him the owner.

    Which gets better since he is right now operating it not as an US LLC but as a sole proprietorship.

    Thats bold.

    Where did I say any of this? Can you please provide screenshots? Specifically about: selling info to Russia, me buying veloxmedia and being a sole proprietorship?

    Facts are important. Let's see these

    You asking me to dump your discord conversay here? Please confirm cos it'll raise a shit storm.

    Thanked by 2barbarza op23
  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Roxyrex said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    Eric stated that openly in the discord chat. He had no issue with this and even mentioned selling this info to russia will be completly legal for him.

    You need anything else?

    Funny enough he also stated here that he bought veloxmedia and he now OWNS it and he has all keys to veloxmedia.co.uk which kinda makes him the owner.

    Which gets better since he is right now operating it not as an US LLC but as a sole proprietorship.

    Thats bold.

    Where did I say any of this? Can you please provide screenshots? Specifically about: selling info to Russia, me buying veloxmedia and being a sole proprietorship?

    Facts are important. Let's see these

    You asking me to dump your discord conversay here? Please confirm cos it'll raise a shit storm.

    Pink Dino 🤩

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Roxyrex said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    Eric stated that openly in the discord chat. He had no issue with this and even mentioned selling this info to russia will be completly legal for him.

    You need anything else?

    Funny enough he also stated here that he bought veloxmedia and he now OWNS it and he has all keys to veloxmedia.co.uk which kinda makes him the owner.

    Which gets better since he is right now operating it not as an US LLC but as a sole proprietorship.

    Thats bold.

    Where did I say any of this? Can you please provide screenshots? Specifically about: selling info to Russia, me buying veloxmedia and being a sole proprietorship?

    Facts are important. Let's see these

    @tfgp99 said:

    Enough for you?

    Wow that's taken way out of context and not at all what I said.

    How about the rest?

    Again, want the full mess dumped here?

    Thanked by 1tfgp99
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Floopster2000 said:

    What does your SLA guarantee state? Can you show this to me in the agreement? I've read every agreement I've found and havent seen anything

    You might want to update your signature though, it still lists 99.9% Uptime 💀

    Still above 99.9%. Apparently been rock solid 173 straight days per the post the page before.

    Lol

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @tenpera said:

    @Proxecure said: ​If you bought the company

    He never bought the company, was handed over. So he might just walk away.

    Nope, cos he still illegally obtained PII.

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Roxyrex said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    Eric stated that openly in the discord chat. He had no issue with this and even mentioned selling this info to russia will be completly legal for him.

    You need anything else?

    Funny enough he also stated here that he bought veloxmedia and he now OWNS it and he has all keys to veloxmedia.co.uk which kinda makes him the owner.

    Which gets better since he is right now operating it not as an US LLC but as a sole proprietorship.

    Thats bold.

    Where did I say any of this? Can you please provide screenshots? Specifically about: selling info to Russia, me buying veloxmedia and being a sole proprietorship?

    Facts are important. Let's see these

    @tfgp99 said:

    Enough for you?

    Wow that's taken way out of context and not at all what I said.

    How about the rest?

    Again, want the full mess dumped here?

    Yeah! I don't ever go onto the cesspool that is Discord, so I've missed most of that apart from the odd snippets here.

    Thanked by 1barbarza
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Floopster2000 said:

    @HotaruBlaze said:
    as far as I'm aware, most hosts SLA have explicit exclusions for DDOS attacks, only like actual network outage, datacentre issues etc

    I think the communication is the real issue here. No-one expects 5 nines for a hundred bucks per year but a simple:

    "Sorry guys we're having issues and we're working overtime on Christmas to fix it, no ETA but ASAP!"

    Gives of a very different vibe than:

    "Yeah we got attacked, it would cost 1k to fix it but we're just going to null route it and not sent out an email..."

    I said basically that exact same thing multiple times for hours.

    Since it still wasn't online I wanted to give an option. I'm used to clients that wouldn't blink twice at $1000/hr for emergency support on Xmas.

    Then why bother to buy Velox? If you have big spenders onboard, make it happen.

    Thanked by 2ralf barbarza
  • Just x-mas wondering.
    Is it a crime to use threats or extortion to persuade someone to provide you with benefits or to compel them to behave in a certain manner?
    Like "you will have your service back online" or " I will report my customer to the FBI" or "All the services are active and 100% operational. There's zero basis for a chargeback or case or dispute or anything."
    Maybe we can ask some entities as apparently services are paid by someone, there are logs, there is data so without much issue such person can be asked personally, right?
    Wondering who could help with such case.
    Do you think https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ might answer with any meaningfull message?
    Asking for a friend.

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @tenpera said:

    @Proxecure said: ​If you bought the company

    He never bought the company, was handed over. So he might just walk away.

    Nope, cos he still illegally obtained PII.

    The other thing is that he's said he's reading all the stripe e-mails intended for Lewis and not him. That in itself is an offence under the UK Computer Misuse Act 1990, although only really Lewis can start action based on that.

    Proof for the one person who's going to say he didn't say that: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4695641#Comment_4695641

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Roxyrex said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    Eric stated that openly in the discord chat. He had no issue with this and even mentioned selling this info to russia will be completly legal for him.

    You need anything else?

    Funny enough he also stated here that he bought veloxmedia and he now OWNS it and he has all keys to veloxmedia.co.uk which kinda makes him the owner.

    Which gets better since he is right now operating it not as an US LLC but as a sole proprietorship.

    Thats bold.

    Where did I say any of this? Can you please provide screenshots? Specifically about: selling info to Russia, me buying veloxmedia and being a sole proprietorship?

    Facts are important. Let's see these

    You asking me to dump your discord conversay here? Please confirm cos it'll raise a shit storm.

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    Guys dont worry just be happy 😃

    Its christmass! 🎄🎄

    *trying to spread some positive vibes on some nice christmass days

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  • JordJord Moderator, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    Is there a tldr? for the last 15 pages.

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @jsg said:
    @ralf

    The problem isn't what he said, the problem is how people understand, interpret or even bend it to match their POV or worse their emotions.
    Up to the point of "anyone with a different view is an enemy and treated as such".

    I'm in fact not defending him nor am I saying that the way everything was handled was and is perfectly fine.

    My point mainly is that if one attacks someone one needs to be certain to really be right and solidly based. Else one is hardly different from an enraged woman.

    The FACTS and details are relevant, gossip and emotions are not, simple as that. To be clear, I myself have only very few facts like e.g. that my VPS is running and working fine. Plus, some conclusions which likely are correct or at least not far off, but still, those are only conclusions.

    I do not know us-american, let alone state laws and certainly not the details - but details are important and in the legal context often even decisive.

    I think that the main difference between me and many here is that I recognize and know that actually we know very little about that transaction and all the relevant details, and act accordingly.
    If you provide tangible and solid - as in "quite likely would hold in court" - evidence or proof that Eric has acted criminally my view may change. Until that happens I'll continue to follow the rule "innocent until proven guilty". THAT is what the laws say pretty much everywhere and I think that's a good guide line.

    He admitted he is guilty of obtaining my data illegally though. So what if the sever is online? He shouldn't have access to my data.

    It's not rocket science.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @oloke said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @oloke said:

    @emgh said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @emgh said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    I'll send everything they've ever paid veloxmedia

    cant even believe when you 'likely' accused someone on LET that is attacking your DC

    I mean tbh someone probably is :D

    I know 1 is a client and have their info which will be sent to the FBI. There's a lot of other data we have about this too

    Femboy Bussy Inspector

    What did I do? :'(

    You should prolly ask, what didn't I do?

    I know for a fact I didn't buy BentoverMedia BF deal and i'm quite happy about it now.

    I hear ya, I hear ya.

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @barbarza said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Roxyrex said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    Eric stated that openly in the discord chat. He had no issue with this and even mentioned selling this info to russia will be completly legal for him.

    You need anything else?

    Funny enough he also stated here that he bought veloxmedia and he now OWNS it and he has all keys to veloxmedia.co.uk which kinda makes him the owner.

    Which gets better since he is right now operating it not as an US LLC but as a sole proprietorship.

    Thats bold.

    Where did I say any of this? Can you please provide screenshots? Specifically about: selling info to Russia, me buying veloxmedia and being a sole proprietorship?

    Facts are important. Let's see these

    You asking me to dump your discord conversay here? Please confirm cos it'll raise a shit storm.

    Pink Dino 🤩

    Blue Dino 🤩

  • @Jord said:
    Is there a tldr? for the last 15 pages.

    It's time to summon deank

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @ralf said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Roxyrex said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    Eric stated that openly in the discord chat. He had no issue with this and even mentioned selling this info to russia will be completly legal for him.

    You need anything else?

    Funny enough he also stated here that he bought veloxmedia and he now OWNS it and he has all keys to veloxmedia.co.uk which kinda makes him the owner.

    Which gets better since he is right now operating it not as an US LLC but as a sole proprietorship.

    Thats bold.

    Where did I say any of this? Can you please provide screenshots? Specifically about: selling info to Russia, me buying veloxmedia and being a sole proprietorship?

    Facts are important. Let's see these

    @tfgp99 said:

    Enough for you?

    Wow that's taken way out of context and not at all what I said.

    How about the rest?

    Again, want the full mess dumped here?

    Yeah! I don't ever go onto the cesspool that is Discord, so I've missed most of that apart from the odd snippets here.

    Lol, like I said before, this is better that Nuggets, for those who ewmemby.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @ralf said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @tenpera said:

    @Proxecure said: ​If you bought the company

    He never bought the company, was handed over. So he might just walk away.

    Nope, cos he still illegally obtained PII.

    The other thing is that he's said he's reading all the stripe e-mails intended for Lewis and not him. That in itself is an offence under the UK Computer Misuse Act 1990, although only really Lewis can start action based on that.

    Proof for the one person who's going to say he didn't say that: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4695641#Comment_4695641

    Might that be @jsg ?

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @Jord said:
    Is there a tldr? for the last 15 pages.

    @VeloxMedia clueless

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  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @barbarza said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Roxyrex said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    And again, one might argue that we (@VeloxMedia's customers) did - and possibly still do - have a contract, but with whom? VeloxMedia? Lewis? And are those even different?

    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    Eric stated that openly in the discord chat. He had no issue with this and even mentioned selling this info to russia will be completly legal for him.

    You need anything else?

    Funny enough he also stated here that he bought veloxmedia and he now OWNS it and he has all keys to veloxmedia.co.uk which kinda makes him the owner.

    Which gets better since he is right now operating it not as an US LLC but as a sole proprietorship.

    Thats bold.

    Where did I say any of this? Can you please provide screenshots? Specifically about: selling info to Russia, me buying veloxmedia and being a sole proprietorship?

    Facts are important. Let's see these

    You asking me to dump your discord conversay here? Please confirm cos it'll raise a shit storm.

    Pink Dino 🤩

    Blue Dino 🤩

    I just noticed the Christmas poo :lol:

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @ralf said:

    @Jord said:
    Is there a tldr? for the last 15 pages.

    It's time to summon deank

    @deank

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @ralf said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @tenpera said:

    @Proxecure said: ​If you bought the company

    He never bought the company, was handed over. So he might just walk away.

    Nope, cos he still illegally obtained PII.

    The other thing is that he's said he's reading all the stripe e-mails intended for Lewis and not him. That in itself is an offence under the UK Computer Misuse Act 1990, although only really Lewis can start action based on that.

    Proof for the one person who's going to say he didn't say that: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4695641#Comment_4695641

    Might that be @jsg ?

    I'll say no because it's Christmas.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @ralf said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @ralf said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @tenpera said:

    @Proxecure said: ​If you bought the company

    He never bought the company, was handed over. So he might just walk away.

    Nope, cos he still illegally obtained PII.

    The other thing is that he's said he's reading all the stripe e-mails intended for Lewis and not him. That in itself is an offence under the UK Computer Misuse Act 1990, although only really Lewis can start action based on that.

    Proof for the one person who's going to say he didn't say that: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4695641#Comment_4695641

    Might that be @jsg ?

    I'll say no because it's Christmas.

    So considerate :)

    Meanwhile, I'm on mobile so getting a dump of the discord is a bitch. If anyone can make that happen, lol.

  • @VeloxMedia said:

    @Floopster2000 said:

    What does your SLA guarantee state? Can you show this to me in the agreement? I've read every agreement I've found and havent seen anything

    You might want to update your signature though, it still lists 99.9% Uptime 💀

    Still above 99.9%. Apparently been rock solid 173 straight days per the post the page before.

    How come it's already been 173 days? It's been down for hours now, and you haven't even had it for a week. Can you stop making excuses? How much longer until you get the servers back up so we can use them normally?

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  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @ralf

    The problem isn't what he said, the problem is how people understand, interpret or even bend it to match their POV or worse their emotions.
    Up to the point of "anyone with a different view is an enemy and treated as such".

    I'm in fact not defending him nor am I saying that the way everything was handled was and is perfectly fine.

    My point mainly is that if one attacks someone one needs to be certain to really be right and solidly based. Else one is hardly different from an enraged woman.

    The FACTS and details are relevant, gossip and emotions are not, simple as that. To be clear, I myself have only very few facts like e.g. that my VPS is running and working fine. Plus, some conclusions which likely are correct or at least not far off, but still, those are only conclusions.

    I do not know us-american, let alone state laws and certainly not the details - but details are important and in the legal context often even decisive.

    I think that the main difference between me and many here is that I recognize and know that actually we know very little about that transaction and all the relevant details, and act accordingly.
    If you provide tangible and solid - as in "quite likely would hold in court" - evidence or proof that Eric has acted criminally my view may change. Until that happens I'll continue to follow the rule "innocent until proven guilty". THAT is what the laws say pretty much everywhere and I think that's a good guide line.

    He admitted he is guilty of obtaining my data illegally though. So what if the sever is online? He shouldn't have access to my data.

    It's not rocket science.

    And it‘s all data, the data on the client panel (personal data) and whatever you saved on the VM. He can access that data without your notice through restoring backups or cloning. A lot of people forget that. It’s hilarious that some people defend such anonymous person and trust them with their data.

    Just imagine you have a VM that’s connected to your tailscale network. If you have your ACLs not properly setup and use tailscale SSH, he can get into any system on your tailnet

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @ralf

    The problem isn't what he said, the problem is how people understand, interpret or even bend it to match their POV or worse their emotions.
    Up to the point of "anyone with a different view is an enemy and treated as such".

    I'm in fact not defending him nor am I saying that the way everything was handled was and is perfectly fine.

    My point mainly is that if one attacks someone one needs to be certain to really be right and solidly based. Else one is hardly different from an enraged woman.

    The FACTS and details are relevant, gossip and emotions are not, simple as that. To be clear, I myself have only very few facts like e.g. that my VPS is running and working fine. Plus, some conclusions which likely are correct or at least not far off, but still, those are only conclusions.

    I do not know us-american, let alone state laws and certainly not the details - but details are important and in the legal context often even decisive.

    I think that the main difference between me and many here is that I recognize and know that actually we know very little about that transaction and all the relevant details, and act accordingly.
    If you provide tangible and solid - as in "quite likely would hold in court" - evidence or proof that Eric has acted criminally my view may change. Until that happens I'll continue to follow the rule "innocent until proven guilty". THAT is what the laws say pretty much everywhere and I think that's a good guide line.

    He admitted he is guilty of obtaining my data illegally though. So what if the sever is online? He shouldn't have access to my data.

    It's not rocket science.

    If he has the keys he also can access your data on your slice, not only your customer order data.

    Also he can share this data since he stated that from his viewpoint he has no customers and no obligations to them whatsoever.

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