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Velox media under new management

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  • @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed because of an attack. It's affecting the control panels.

    $1000/mo would bring it online and stop this at the CA DC. It's not included in anyone's original TOS or anything.

    So u are asking us to pay 1000$? 🤔 isnt your responsibility to keep systems running ? Whatever the costs...

    Thanked by 2oloke tux
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed

    Just curious, what’s your definition of down?

  • @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed because of an attack. It's affecting the control panels.

    $1000/mo would bring it online and stop this at the CA DC. It's not included in anyone's original TOS or anything.

    You keep trying to extort people for $1000/m to keep their $180/3y server running. Why? You've just migrated people to some shitty network. That's a you problem.

  • More reasons for a chargeback have been said.
    Getting buried deeper and deeper.

  • @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed because of an attack. It's affecting the control panels.

    $1000/mo would bring it online and stop this at the CA DC. It's not included in anyone's original TOS or anything.

    Okay great so why not send out an email with details + an ETA? Null-routing without notifying customers seems like a horrible idea.

    How can you expect future customers to trust that you'll be an reliable, professional host if you don't communicate?

  • @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed because of an attack. It's affecting the control panels.

    $1000/mo would bring it online and stop this at the CA DC. It's not included in anyone's original TOS or anything.

    You keep trying to extort people for $1000/m to keep their $180/3y server running. Why? You've just migrated people to some shitty network. That's a you problem.

    You must bow down to Eric and pay 1000$ , otherwise he will delete your server

  • At this point i even cannot believe if it is an attack or not.

  • @tfgp99 said:
    At this point i even cannot believe if it is an attack or not.

    He pulled the plug. Now pay 1000$

    Thanked by 3tfgp99 oloke tux
  • @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed because of an attack. It's affecting the control panels.

    $1000/mo would bring it online and stop this at the CA DC. It's not included in anyone's original TOS or anything.

    LOL!

    That's the cost of doing business buddy. Stop blaming the customers. You clearly have no idea how to operate and accept that sometimes you need to make the hard decisions.

  • @VeloxMedia

    I'd like to know what kind of attack could persist for so long. Could you release the evidence of the current attack?

    We're currently experiencing severe disruptions. I believe you need to provide an explanation.

  • Just to put it out here, my VPS in Fremont is not down.

    Thanked by 1surfinhu
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @ralf said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @jsg said:
    @VeloxMedia

    I'm with you on this.

    But you are co-responsible for the shit storm because you stubbornly refused to feed the LET crowd at least some crumbs. Maybe your decision was the right one from a legal perspective but it obviously angers many here.

    That said, @LET crowd:

    If you want to be angry at someone then it should be Lewis, because it was he who seems to have decided to abandon/sell VeloxMedia quite surprisingly and short term without notifying his customers

    As for Eric my guess is that he reacts stubbornly to you trying to push and to press him. To make something very clear: He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!
    Plus - and rightfully - he seems to follow the guideline "How could I be responsible for something I hardly know? Priority number one and two right now are to keep the servers/operations running and to as quickly as possible learn as much as possible about this setup!". Feeding our (understandable) curiosity is not a priority - and it can't and shouldn't be, because first the "who speaks?" must be cleared and set up that is, his company must be set up. As long as it doesn't exist officially it obviously can't make statements.

    Until then it's basically his good will to keep the servers running - and that he actually seems to do.

    So again, if you want to be angry then you should be angry at the prior owner who did not at all follow established customs, did not inform us in time and seems to have left a mess for his successor to clean up.

    You're delusional mate.

    "He owes you NOTHING, he has no contract with any of us/you!"

    The guy has illegally obtained PII and doesn't give an ass, even sadder, he thinks it's no issue at all. How does he owe us/me nothing?

    I'll ignore your ad hominem and respond to what you - kindly note the assumption favourable to you - seem to consider an argument:

    If any of us do have a contract, which one might argue we do, then with Lewis, not with the new owner which seems to be a us-american company which seems to not even exist yet. So, good luck in court!

    He doesn't even have to be a company to be liable for having illegally obtained EU data and transferring that to the US.

    It's not even a court matter. If pursued, they will come after him, even when he's in the US. It's a serious liability and he should really get some legal advice about this matter.

    But you kney, legalities aside.

    Even if legal...

    By your logic, I have nothing to do with him/his contract...

    So why does he have our data? And why shouldn't we be upset?

    Do you know, as opposed to a wild guess, (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom?
    If you know that they were transferred by Eric, please provide evidence.

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4693164#Comment_4693164

    Please point at where exactly that is evidence for (a) that our data were transferred to the USA, and (b) if so, by whom.

    Hey everyone!! Eric here. Lewis is gone and just handed me the keys to everything. I just got access to the DNS and email and all that good stuff so have been working on moving some things over to ensure we don't lose any communication. We don't have the domain transferred yet unfortunately.
    The good news is I have access to all the systems and everything is still up and running. The bad news is everyone's agreements/contracts/money is with Lewis and he's gone. He setup tons and tons of packages so there's a lot of stuff to dig into still so bear with me for a bit as I work to find a solution moving forward.

    That might indicate, but not prove something; unfortunately only vaguely. For instance it might indicate that Eric has got access to the servers where they were and highly likely still are that is, not at all what was said and what you tried to provide evidence for.

    TL;DR NO evidence for what was alleged.

    @jsg said:
    That said, my main concern is that the VPS for which I paid in advance still is working - and that so far it does. Thanks to Eric (and maybe in part to Lewis).

    Before you feel too smug, re-read his FIFTH post since taking control of the LET account.

    I'm not feeling smug. And actually that touches the problem: emotions rather than facts.

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4693309#Comment_4693309

    This is the predicament. Doesn't make much sense to shut everything down and make everyone lose all their money. But also doesn't make much sense for me to pay for everyone's hosting fees.
    As far as I can see there's a mix of all kinds of packages, some normal and fair while others are obviously way below sustainable, so obviously something has to be done.

    That sounds like he literally can't decide whether to cancel everyone's service or not. He still hasn't clarified this. And ending with "obviously something has to be done" seems to strongly indicate his preference for just nuking customers he feels won't earn him enough.

    Emotionally guided speculation and allegations again. IMO his "obviously something has to be done" simply indicates that he sees a problem and thinks a solution somewhere in between the extreme points has to be found. My guess is that he'll cancel and refund orders that do not even cover his costs.

    @jsg said:
    In other words: Yes, something that looks shady was happening but from what (little) I can see nobody was harmed, plus, and even better, a central figure of the new company seems to work quite hard to keep it working. As far as we know - as opposed to wild speculation and yadda yadda - only one single thing is likely to change: below cost services will be terminated or at least not be sold anymore. Which IMO is positive.

    How the fuck is it positive to cancel services that were already paid for?

    Kindly note that "to terminate" does not exclude refunding. And in fact he already used the word "refund" multiple times.

    This guy was told up front that the business was running at a 25% loss, and he still choose to "buy" it. That means buying the obligations as well as the well paying customers.

    No, that may mean what you take it to mean but it also may not. FACT is that we do not know what was actually transferred, let alone details.

    And if he doesn't want those customers, he needs to just say so. Then they can chargeback and get their money back. If this guy is telling the truth and Eric and Lewis are separate individuals, it shouldn't be any concern of this whether Lewis has to pay out a chargeback or not. But he's not doing that, he's trying to string those people along, cynically using the BS made up persona just so they miss the chargeback window before he cuts their service.

    Frankly, in my eyes your wild speculations are the BS.

    And the real kicker - this guy won't even tell us who he is. If he's telling the truth and registering a company, it'll be on public record anyway. So what's the big secret, unless it's just another pack of lies told as part of the exit scam?

    Granted, you have a point there and I also asked him to tell us a bit about himself. But the way you paint it is likely wrong because, not every company does have an identifiable natural person as owner. Also he simply may want to have the (currently in the process of being registered) company, and not himself the person, associated with the operations and that is not necessarily negative, in fact that often happens.

    Btw, someone who wants to scam us hardly would spend the holidays to keep our servers up and running.

  • @Maelstrom36 said: my VPS in Fremont is not down.

    good for you.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Proxecure said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed because of an attack. It's affecting the control panels.

    $1000/mo would bring it online and stop this at the CA DC. It's not included in anyone's original TOS or anything.

    So u are asking us to pay 1000$? 🤔 isnt your responsibility to keep systems running ? Whatever the costs...

    What does your SLA guarantee state? Can you show this to me in the agreement? I've read every agreement I've found and havent seen anything

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Proxecure said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed because of an attack. It's affecting the control panels.

    $1000/mo would bring it online and stop this at the CA DC. It's not included in anyone's original TOS or anything.

    So u are asking us to pay 1000$? 🤔 isnt your responsibility to keep systems running ? Whatever the costs...

    What does your SLA guarantee state? Can you show this to me in the agreement? I've read every agreement I've found and havent seen anything

    Lmfao you can’t make this shit up

    He says its your responsibility to keep your system running

    You say ”SHOW THE SLA”

    And all the while jsg here defending the shit show

    Peak LET but time to sleep now

    Have a great day everyone

  • @tfgp99 said:
    At this point i even cannot believe if it is an attack or not.

    Same.

    When the site started showing missing backend modules and broken stylesheets, felt a bit too 'staged' to be a genuine accident. It’s like they’re trying too hard to look broken. Just my intuition, but it's hard to ignore.

  • @tenpera said:

    @Maelstrom36 said: my VPS in Fremont is not down.

    good for you.

    I don't think you're following. He's claiming that "systems are under attack" and $1000/month would fix it.

  • What does your SLA guarantee state? Can you show this to me in the agreement? I've read every agreement I've found and havent seen anything

    You might want to update your signature though, it still lists 99.9% Uptime 💀

  • Feeling like we are talking to a wall, or some shit.
    Never seen a "Service Provider" acting like this.

    Thanked by 2emgh tux
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @tfgp99 said:
    Feeling like we are talking to a wall, or some shit.
    Never seen a "Service Provider" acting like this.

    I have

    Wtf those ain’t my nameservers

  • @emgh said:

    @tfgp99 said:
    Feeling like we are talking to a wall, or some shit.
    Never seen a "Service Provider" acting like this.

    I have

    Wtf those ain’t my nameservers

    STOP ANNOUNCING MY IP

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Floopster2000 said:

    What does your SLA guarantee state? Can you show this to me in the agreement? I've read every agreement I've found and havent seen anything

    You might want to update your signature though, it still lists 99.9% Uptime 💀

    Still above 99.9%. Apparently been rock solid 173 straight days per the post the page before.

  • @emgh said:

    @tfgp99 said:
    Feeling like we are talking to a wall, or some shit.
    Never seen a "Service Provider" acting like this.

    I have

    Wtf those ain’t my nameservers

    Bolox did the same

    Thanked by 3emgh barbaros tux
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @tfgp99 said:
    Feeling like we are talking to a wall, or some shit.
    Never seen a "Service Provider" acting like this.

    I have

    Wtf those ain’t my nameservers

    STOP ANNOUNCING MY IP

    3000 thanks for a 1c1g for 3 hours and $2.99 acc credit

  • @VeloxMedia said:

    @Proxecure said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @JohnnySac said:
    My Fremont, CA VPS I got back in August was up 131 days, now its been down for hours.

    It's not down, just network null routed because of an attack. It's affecting the control panels.

    $1000/mo would bring it online and stop this at the CA DC. It's not included in anyone's original TOS or anything.

    So u are asking us to pay 1000$? 🤔 isnt your responsibility to keep systems running ? Whatever the costs...

    What does your SLA guarantee state? Can you show this to me in the agreement? I've read every agreement I've found and havent seen anything

    An SLA covers uptime percentages; it doesn't give you permission to just stop providing the service people already paid for. That’s not a 'technicality,' that’s a breach of contract.
    ​If you bought the company, you bought the obligation to keep the servers running. Hiding behind the fine print just to avoid doing your job—or to bait us into paying an extra $1,000—is exactly why nobody believes this 'new owner' story. Are you here to run a business or just to see how long you can stall before the chargebacks hit?

    Thanked by 2whynotlearn tux
  • @VeloxMedia said:

    @Floopster2000 said:

    What does your SLA guarantee state? Can you show this to me in the agreement? I've read every agreement I've found and havent seen anything

    You might want to update your signature though, it still lists 99.9% Uptime 💀

    Still above 99.9%. Apparently been rock solid 173 straight days per the post the page before.

    Fair enough. 99.9 is 8h 45m 57s. My server(s) have been down for about 6 hours now. I wont complain if they come back up in the next 2h 45m.

    Thanked by 3emgh borkedascii tux
  • @Proxecure said: ​If you bought the company

    He never bought the company, was handed over. So he might just walk away.

  • as far as I'm aware, most hosts SLA have explicit exclusions for DDOS attacks, only like actual network outage, datacentre issues etc

    Thanked by 3oloke tentor jsg
  • @tenpera said:

    @Proxecure said: ​If you bought the company

    He never bought the company, was handed over. So he might just walk away.

    Technically, both are same he took the responsibility, whether he had bought company or just someone handed over to him.

  • @Proxecure said: Technically, both are same he took the responsibility, whether he had bought company or just someone handed over to him.

    sure, he might just walk away.

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