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Illegal Streaming Services, Questions

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  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited December 2025

    Since there is no real evidence and just stupid accusations in this thread, I’ll join in.

    I blame the moose @jar. He is the pirate.

    @jar said:
    Snitches get stitches

    $ ping plex1.tower-server.com
    PING cdn-ams-01.datahorders.org (94.75.213.19): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 94.75.213.19: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=23.991 ms
    

    .

    $ dig mx datahorders.org
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    datahorders.org.        5       IN      MX      10 moose.mxrouting.net.
    datahorders.org.        5       IN      MX      20 moose-relay.mxrouting.net.
    
    Thanked by 3jar avsisp Xrmaddness
  • @TruthSeeker1987 said:

    @ralf said:
    Also, about the €200 loss - just chargeback to the card you your friend bought it on saying that you your friend didn't receive the advertised service, and let the card issuer deal with it.

    I've already advised him to do so, but regardless i've already taken it this far I can't stop now

    • I'll end the thread here, I won't respond any further, this was meant to notify Server Companies of operations on there machines, i've learned that neither do they have to care, or should want to regarding this matter and i'll take it to the relevant places directly.

    I'm getting a feeling that this isn't the end and that, when you're still upset about what happened and inform parties that are legally tasked going after illegal content are pointed to by you are also pointed to this thread with the remarks "hosting providers won't do anything about it". And I think that wouldn't be fair.

    Someone pointed out in this discussion the term hypocritical, and I think that is somehow correct. You say you handle illegal content yourself, you don't have an issue with it, but the first thing you mention to hosting providers and here is "it's illegal!". If there was no money taken, you wouldn't have a problem with it. So let's call things as they appear to be: you're upset because "a friend" lost money, and it happened to be a probably illegal content provider. The hosting providers you're addressing here can't do anything about that loss of money. They probably won't even care. The "it's illegal" part is only for you to get some attention from them in the hope for revenge towards the party that scammed.

    If you want to do that: do it properly. Make a complaint there where it can make a difference: at the authorities that are tasked with going after illegal content. It will only take one call or mail and that's all. They will look into it and take appropriate steps when needed. You don't have to go through the frustration that comes from a forum post like this.

    Will it return the money? Nah, don't think so. Will it make a change to the amount of illegal content? Hardly. Will it lower your blood pressure and make life better for yourself? Most likely.

  • Hot take: he was actually just trying to promote his pirated movie site and it backfired

    Thanked by 2OpaqueRegistrant tux
  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited December 2025

    @ralf said:
    Hot take: he was actually just trying to promote his pirated movie site and it backfired

    Hot take: this is a trap.


    WHMCS license is legit.
    Payment solution: Stripe. (no anonymity)

    SSL CN=web01.rtr0.com (from dnsdumpster.com - tower-server.com)

    access.rtr0.com/index.php sell WHMCS hosting + streaming modules.

    Thanked by 2Levi JasonM
  • @xvps said:

    @ralf said:
    Hot take: he was actually just trying to promote his pirated movie site and it backfired

    Hot take: this is a trap.


    WHMCS license is legit.
    Payment solution: Stripe. (no anonymity)

    SSL CN=web01.rtr0.com (from dnsdumpster.com - tower-server.com)

    access.rtr0.com/index.php sell WHMCS hosting + streaming modules.

    A lot of pirate sites (and DDoS 'stresser' sites, etc) take completely non-anonymous payments. I assume they're mostly run by idiots, not agents. (Or they just live in a country that doesn't give a fuck)

  • @MallocVoidstar said:

    @xvps said:

    @ralf said:
    Hot take: he was actually just trying to promote his pirated movie site and it backfired

    Hot take: this is a trap.


    WHMCS license is legit.
    Payment solution: Stripe. (no anonymity)

    SSL CN=web01.rtr0.com (from dnsdumpster.com - tower-server.com)

    access.rtr0.com/index.php sell WHMCS hosting + streaming modules.

    A lot of pirate sites (and DDoS 'stresser' sites, etc) take completely non-anonymous payments. I assume they're mostly run by idiots, not agents. (Or they just live in a country that doesn't give a fuck)

    They are mostly idiots as shown in many KrebsOnSecurity articles. People linked to the biggest DDoS botnet in history just recently launching 1Tbps+ attacks have effectively been doxxed but just keep going.

    Still, those people probably don't have their real identities tied to those payment gateways. Bank and payment gateway accounts with stolen identities can be bought for a few hundred bucks.
    Not that that would save them due to their otherwise generally awful OpSec. But that's only if law enforcement actually bothered to put a few hours into tracking them down.

  • @xvps said:
    Since there is no real evidence and just stupid accusations in this thread, I’ll join in.

    I blame the moose @jar. He is the pirate.

    @jar said:
    Snitches get stitches

    $ ping plex1.tower-server.com
    PING cdn-ams-01.datahorders.org (94.75.213.19): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 94.75.213.19: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=23.991 ms
    

    .

    $ dig mx datahorders.org
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    datahorders.org.        5       IN      MX      10 moose.mxrouting.net.
    datahorders.org.        5       IN      MX      20 moose-relay.mxrouting.net.
    

    i blame @DP and @Astro for funding the pirate organization
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/191207/domain-auction-1gigabit-datahoarders-dediservers-t4y-wv/p2

    Thanked by 2avsisp Xrmaddness
  • @timmmy said:

    @xvps said:
    Since there is no real evidence and just stupid accusations in this thread, I’ll join in.

    I blame the moose @jar. He is the pirate.

    @jar said:
    Snitches get stitches

    $ ping plex1.tower-server.com
    PING cdn-ams-01.datahorders.org (94.75.213.19): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 94.75.213.19: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=23.991 ms
    

    .

    $ dig mx datahorders.org
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    datahorders.org.        5       IN      MX      10 moose.mxrouting.net.
    datahorders.org.        5       IN      MX      20 moose-relay.mxrouting.net.
    

    i blame @DP and @Astro for funding the pirate organization
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/191207/domain-auction-1gigabit-datahoarders-dediservers-t4y-wv/p2

    You need your eyes checked @timmmy...different spelling

    Thanked by 1Xrmaddness
  • @timmmy said:

    @xvps said:
    Since there is no real evidence and just stupid accusations in this thread, I’ll join in.

    I blame the moose @jar. He is the pirate.

    @jar said:
    Snitches get stitches

    $ ping plex1.tower-server.com
    PING cdn-ams-01.datahorders.org (94.75.213.19): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 94.75.213.19: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=23.991 ms
    

    .

    $ dig mx datahorders.org
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    datahorders.org.        5       IN      MX      10 moose.mxrouting.net.
    datahorders.org.        5       IN      MX      20 moose-relay.mxrouting.net.
    

    i blame @DP and @Astro for funding the pirate organization
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/191207/domain-auction-1gigabit-datahoarders-dediservers-t4y-wv/p2

    Hey @DP and @Astro it's time to sue for slander!!1oeneoN!o1n1one

    Thanked by 2Astro avsisp
  • I do however think I let that domain expire unfortunately :(

  • @Void said: Thanks for the list of based providers.

    well, how come CharityHost.org is not used by Tower Server to host illegal movies including adult porn! B)

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @TruthSeeker1987 said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @stefeman said:
    What a stupid thread

    its for a friend!

    Really is funny everyone get's stuck on that, i can see how I shot myself in foot, and it looks like it should of just said it was me would of been easier. (It wasn't)

    @srch07 said:

    @TruthSeeker1987 said:
    For context: I started looking into this after a 55-year-old online friend of mine purchased a “yearly plan” from this service—over €200—and ended up being scammed. So there are both copyright and consumer-fraud concerns.

    @TruthSeeker1987 said:
    Agreed, I do think it's not wrong, especially for personal use my gripe with this hole situation is the abuse of being a "provider" of stolen content, and charging others access to it.

    @TruthSeeker1987 said:
    Totally fine to not like me or my stance friend, but if there wasn't money stolen, I wouldn't be here, from communities i'm apart of, scammers are worse than snitches.

    @TruthSeeker1987 said:
    Again i'm happy to notify Disney etc, i'll send the obligatory email today, the post was more about notifying hosts here, I only found LET googling the hosts, and LET was a common thread for 3 of them, so I safely assumed this is where the provider is "Finding" his hosts and wanted to give them a "heads" up sort to speak, but i'm quickly understanding there is no solution via this path and i'll notify copyright holders directly.

    Afterall i assume Disney will just be sending these notifiations to host, and. I figured I could save them the hassle / abuse they may get

    Karen spotted, who has to put the nose where it does not belong.

    I am sorry to say, but I feel very difficult to wrap my head around what you are saying.
    You are supporting piracy, want to buy pirated stuff, and then complaint if you don't get the advertised pirated service?

    You do realise you are commiting the same crime as the pirated website by purchasing, watching, downloading pirated stuff and can be sue'd too, right?

    No i'm saying privacy is much less harmful, when sought-out by a user, for themselves, private usage.

    I'm saying it's hardly comparable to privacy turned into a for-profit business, using a US regitered business, and payment processors, my entire point is HOW they operate, not shocked that they do.

    Seriously you think Bob downloading Friends for himself, is comparable to a 24.7 multi-server streaming service to 100's of users without any effort?

    Hardly being a karen, for wanting the downfall of a scamming piece of shit.

    USA registered companies are super easy to register online remotely. You don't get need to be in USA. There's also several jurisdictions where the owner can stay anonymous - even the person who registered the company for them "Registered Agent" doesn't have to check ID and they can use fake name and email with them. There are laws to do a Beneficial Owner report, but nobody is asking for that to open a merchant account or process payments

    The entire point of what I'm saying here is - as a USA company with a foreigner owner they're relatively trusted by processors and still staying anonymous.

    Don't like it? Write your congressman (if you're American...)

  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @TruthSeeker1987 said:

    @stefeman said:

    @TruthSeeker1987 said:

    I'm personally a Plex fanboy anyways :)

    A hypocrite is what you are.

    Hypocrite? says the Snitch, calling me Snitch? interesting how you fall to your own words so often friend.

    Where are the "no thanks" buttons when you need one? Admins should consider adding one next to thanks 🙏

  • I feel like I lost brain cells reading this thread. It is mind boggling that such dimwitted people actually exist in this world @ OP

    Thanked by 1OpaqueRegistrant
  • @ralf said:
    But ultimately, piracy is depriving someone of their income. Maybe you can justify it to yourself as "it's a big corporation", but ultimately the less profit they make, the less willing they are to gamble on making future products.

    Not necessarily. Most users of pirated content would simply not pay for it or better said not use it at all if pirated versions were not available. There are also indirect financial gains from users of pirated versions.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    Most content creators have a lot of lawyers and, believe me, they are very strong when their copyrights are violated by someone. Only they themselves have the right to decide what materials violate their copyright and what does not. Sometimes, content creators might even be interested in illegally distributing their materials for various reasons. Unwanted activism might be overused in such cases.

  • @xvps said:

    @ralf said:
    Hot take: he was actually just trying to promote his pirated movie site and it backfired

    Payment solution: Stripe. (no anonymity)

    Stripe is for convenience, if they only took crypto then they would get much less customers.

  • @Astro said:
    I do however think I let that domain expire unfortunately :(

  • If it really important to You, and have enough time to work with it, You can try to contact with each provider via their official abuse contact (email, ticket). You should provide clear details, proof (technical details, screenshots, etc) about the experienced abuse. Focus only to the relevant provider related issue, If they not response, they don't do actions, you can try to inform the copyright/license holders directly with the same information (They probably have the enough "human" capacity to handle - via abuse reports, legal actions).

    Hosting providers don't know and don't want to check their every/all clients, what they do with the rented services. They haven't capacity, they can't determine their users have the right/ own license for they activity or not.. , etc. But if they receive a 'correct' abuse report, probably most of them will investigate it, and take actions.

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