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That dude was really helpful, I'm just waiting for that cheque to arrive any day now.
Again, this is the stance I can agree with an accepted. However I haven't accepted failure just that this route has failed which is fine, to me 200 euro is not much I don't want to go into finances but 200 euro can be a lot to others.
To me, this is righting a wrong, and I get it's just "copyright" and "privacy" but if this was DB dumping, DDoS or Botnets, I think this forum wouldn't be reacting the same way as if the customer is wrong not the illegal service operator.
So if it takes me days or weeks, that's fine few well-written scripts to scrape & automate, will be a good start to notify every single copyright holders even if it's 10's of thosuands.
The "to me 200 euro..." sounds a lot like you are the 55 year old gentleman, but that's not particularly relevant to the overall argument.
If this is your friend's €200, why do you want to speak weeks doing all this work just to fight some grudge of perceived injustice towards someone else?
If this really your €200, isn't there a better use of your time? Those days and weeks could be earning you far more in income than the €200 lost on a foolish purchase.
I can see how it can come across that way, but i've been more fueled by this thread, being told there is nothing that can be done, and they are just allowed to do as they please?
I don't need to loose money, being told I cannot is enough motivation.
Correct, instead of us laughing, you would just get banned for buying such illegal services and crying here about it.
Karen spotted, who has to put the nose where it does not belong.
I am sorry to say, but I feel very difficult to wrap my head around what you are saying.
You are supporting piracy, want to buy pirated stuff, and then complaint if you don't get the advertised pirated service?
You do realise you are commiting the same crime as the pirated website by purchasing, watching, downloading pirated stuff and can be sue'd too, right?
I would pay if there were no problematic DRM. With Tidal for example, even for "downloaded" tracks, their DRM means playing every song has a noticeable delay while the app sends a request to their server to do some kind of license check. Putting the app into "offline mode" or turning off internet fixes this.
Ripping FLACs from their server (because the DRM is easily broken) gives a better experience, and you cannot pay Tidal for this.
Services like this have bastardized the word "download", because you do not actually get to download a normal file. No matter how much you pay, there is no option for this, so people turn to piracy to get back missing or mislabeled features like "download".
With no DRM these companies cannot make as much money, because copying and sharing a file which you have only paid a temporary license for has very little cost, and the price they would need to ask for people to own a real copy of the file would be too high for people to pay now that they're conditioned to these unrealistically low prices.
So we've accepted this strange middle ground where people and their rights are rotted by bad DRM justified by "being able" to make money. It doesn't mean artists, publishers, etc don't have a right to earn money, but perhaps they need to adjust the amount they should expect to earn from the almost 0 effort required for digital distribution.
If the friend could watch all the Disney content I bet @TruthSeeker1987 wouldn't be sending complaints to Disney that their content is shared somewhere.
its for a friend!
"Hey Disney! Can you take down a service who are streaming illegal movies? I tried to use that service as well but I got scammed. I swear, I did not know it was illegal"
There is no consumer fraud involved here OP.
When you buy something illegal in the first place, then no law would give you provision to claim consumer fraud because what you did was illegal in the first place.
Secondly there was no copyright infringement involved too till at this moment. You are a nobody in this scenario. The copyright infringement will have to come from license owner and you are not the one in this case. So hosting providers have no real obligation to anything you write here.
Really is funny everyone get's stuck on that, i can see how I shot myself in foot, and it looks like it should of just said it was me would of been easier. (It wasn't)
No i'm saying privacy is much less harmful, when sought-out by a user, for themselves, private usage.
I'm saying it's hardly comparable to privacy turned into a for-profit business, using a US regitered business, and payment processors, my entire point is HOW they operate, not shocked that they do.
Seriously you think Bob downloading Friends for himself, is comparable to a 24.7 multi-server streaming service to 100's of users without any effort?
Hardly being a karen, for wanting the downfall of a scamming piece of shit.
Yes, from the user's buying the content that would be true.
I never tried, nor wanted to. I'm personally a Plex fanboy anyways
If you don't believe me, happy to receive a DM i'll have him jump in a discord call with myself, he's a really nice dude and actually is a online-friend, not an imaginary (Me) hiding from it.
If I'd have bought it, I assure you I wouldn't be posting in a public thread regarding it, I was "trying" to do this by the book sort of speak, but I guess when people play dirty games, you gotta play em back
A hypocrite is what you are.
Hypocrite? says the Snitch, calling me Snitch? interesting how you fall to your own words so often friend.
You just admitted being Plex fanboy. This tells every single user here that you are a pirate yourself. A kettle calling the pot black.
I'm sure I wouldn't be either! but hey I have entered this now and I don't like to leave things unfinished not really my style.
None of us know each other, and I respect the nature to distrust rather than trust other's on the internet.
So you're also downloading movies and series, illegally? Holy fucking sheit you are a hypocrite.
Or your friend could just take the L, learn a valuable lesson and send his next €200 on multiple legitimate streaming services instead.
Meanwhile, you could get on with doing something productive with your spare days and weeks rather than wasting it on a (probably fruitless) vendetta to make your friend feel better about being scammed.
Also, about the €200 loss - just chargeback to the card you your friend bought it on saying that you your friend didn't receive the advertised service, and let the card issuer deal with it.
Does it? thank you, but I thought I'd already clarified I'm not against the idea of "pirating" itself, and already stated I do, my country has very strange laws about it, but that's not the point.
Point of the entire thread was a pirating "Service" I don't sell my media, or access to 100's of people around the world, I don't register it has a business and take payments from people, I don't scam. Clear difference ethically.
Nope, don't think you understand the word, at no point have I started, sold or become a service provider for this business, therefore cannot be a hypocrite.
Just because I smoke a joint, doesn't make me a hypocrite for saying maybe large-scale drug operations are bad.
Starting to sound like the 55-year-old online friend
I've already advised him to do so, but regardless i've already taken it this far I can't stop now
Stopping seems significantly easier than your planned course of action, but whatever
id rather a few boomers get scammed than providers taking things down from rando abuse reports.
also, theres plenty of free 1080p streaming. if you want 4k use debrid or setup torrent server.
I take my words back. Best thread of the year so far.