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DediRock.com: non-working VPS, no promised subnets, pressure to close PayPal dispute

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  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @Matthew18_ said:

    @JohnFilch123 said: What I do not understand is why it is not possible to refund within that dispute.

    It is possible, before it escalates to it being handled by PayPal.
    Just to be clear, the escalation is normally asked by the provider when they do not agree in providing the refund. Unless something changed now?

    @barbarza said: Because it would still then count as a dispute and the provider would be penalised.

    This is wrong, if its refunded before its escalated to PayPal its just settled out as a normal refund.

    Hey @Matthew18_ thank you for that. The PP process I know has changed over the years. It's something that does take some attention to keep up on.

    Thanks for the comment.

  • @Watson said:

    @Watson said:

    @DediRock said:

    @Watson said:
    They didn't deliver on their promise to give me a doubled IPv6 address and bandwidth.

    Hey @watson I am sorry about that man, def not cool. What's the Inv #? I'll 3x it and throw in an extra as a make good?

    That work for you?

    DediRock Makes It Right™

    @DediRock said:

    @Watson said:
    They didn't deliver on their promise to give me a doubled IPv6 address and bandwidth.

    Hey @watson I am sorry about that man, def not cool. What's the Inv #? I'll 3x it and throw in an extra as a make good?

    That work for you?

    DediRock Makes It Right™

    Invoice #14398

    This is the third time you’ve told me something you never followed through on. At this point, it feels dishonest and extremely disappointing.

    If you actually intend to fix this, then show real action — not another empty message.

    well u talking to bot

    Thanked by 1nonoceb
  • @DediRock said: hey @barbarza right, that is my concern. Money is def not the issue on this one, even if the dispute goes DediRock's way, I will refund @yabl0ky the money.

    It's amazing, I just received a decision from PayPal saying that they are siding with the seller. I wonder what the seller wrote that made PayPal decide that undelivered working servers are okay. It's interesting, I'm going to file an appeal. They wrote that it can be done until December 6, 2025.

    Thanked by 1stable_genius
  • they were impressed by his messagebot ai thanking each sentence

  • @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said: hey @barbarza right, that is my concern. Money is def not the issue on this one, even if the dispute goes DediRock's way, I will refund @yabl0ky the money.

    It's amazing, I just received a decision from PayPal saying that they are siding with the seller. I wonder what the seller wrote that made PayPal decide that undelivered working servers are okay. It's interesting, I'm going to file an appeal. They wrote that it can be done until December 6, 2025.

    awesome,cool,double resource for u

  • yabl0kyyabl0ky Member
    edited November 2025

    @zed said: they were impressed by his messagebot ai thanking each sentence

    I think Danny just said that he provided all the servers and they had a minor glitch, PayPal didn't want to investigate and closed the case in favor of the seller. Basically, that's all you need to know about this payment system. I'm disappointed. At the moment, I have neither money nor goods, and the scammer Danny will probably be very happy about that. This world can be unfair.

    Mod, what do you think? As far as I understand, DediRock is advertised on your platform.

    Thanked by 1OpaqueRegistrant
  • @yabl0ky said: Mod, what do you think? As far as I understand, DediRock is advertised on your platform.

    Bro he's a reseller for the owner of this forum, get a grip.

    Anyway, luckily he very clearly stated:

    @DediRock said: hey @barbarza right, that is my concern. Money is def not the issue on this one, even if the dispute goes DediRock's way, I will refund @yabl0ky the money.

    So do let us know when you receive your refund.

    Thanked by 1stable_genius
  • @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said: hey @barbarza right, that is my concern. Money is def not the issue on this one, even if the dispute goes DediRock's way, I will refund @yabl0ky the money.

    It's amazing, I just received a decision from PayPal saying that they are siding with the seller. I wonder what the seller wrote that made PayPal decide that undelivered working servers are okay. It's interesting, I'm going to file an appeal. They wrote that it can be done until December 6, 2025.

    Did you not see that @DediRock said he would refund you even if he won the dispute? I would suggest you don't file the appeal and wait for him to process the refund.

  • raviravi Member
    edited November 2025

    @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said: hey @barbarza right, that is my concern. Money is def not the issue on this one, even if the dispute goes DediRock's way, I will refund @yabl0ky the money.

    It's amazing, I just received a decision from PayPal saying that they are siding with the seller. I wonder what the seller wrote that made PayPal decide that undelivered working servers are okay. It's interesting, I'm going to file an appeal. They wrote that it can be done until December 6, 2025.

    You can be little polite with him and ask for refund from @DediRock
    He should be happy to send you refund (may be deduct the paypal fee).

    @DediRock said: hey @barbarza right, that is my concern. Money is def not the issue on this one, even if the dispute goes DediRock's way, I will refund @yabl0ky the money.

    Thanked by 1dmax
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @yabl0ky said:

    @zed said: they were impressed by his messagebot ai thanking each sentence

    I think Danny just said that he provided all the servers and they had a minor glitch, PayPal didn't want to investigate and closed the case in favor of the seller. Basically, that's all you need to know about this payment system. I'm disappointed. At the moment, I have neither money nor goods, and the scammer Danny will probably be very happy about that. This world can be unfair.

    Mod, what do you think? As far as I understand, DediRock is advertised on your platform.

    I think you should just make nice with Danny, he seems to want to make every customer happy.

    I've known Danny for a long time. A+ guy.

    Thanked by 2yongsiklee dmax
  • @zed said: Bro he's a reseller for the owner of this forum, get a grip.

    Right, I didn't think of that. How silly.

    @jbiloh said: I've known Danny for a long time. A+ guy.

    Being a good guy isn't a profession. The fact remains that after 14 days, there are no servers, no money, just promises.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @yabl0ky said: Being a good guy isn't a profession. The fact remains that after 14 days, there are no servers, no money, just promises.

    You filed a paypal dispute, right? So you lose the ability to talk about whether your service is active or not. Full stop.

    If you message @DediRock and ask to make a happy solution I am 100% sure it will get fully resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

    And I disagree 100% that being an A+ guy, like Danny is, doesn't translate to how you do business. I think it matters.

  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @yabl0ky said:

    @zed said: Bro he's a reseller for the owner of this forum, get a grip.

    Right, I didn't think of that. How silly.

    @jbiloh said: I've known Danny for a long time. A+ guy.

    Being a good guy isn't a profession. The fact remains that after 14 days, there are no servers, no money, just promises.

    @yabl0ky if close it right now, I'll refund immediately, and leave the servers on.

    Thanked by 2yongsiklee ravi
  • @jbiloh said: You filed a paypal dispute, right? So you lose the ability to talk about whether your service is active or not. Full stop.

    PayPal ruled in favor of DediRock because he told them that he provided the service in full, so who is lying? If there is no service, then where is my money? If there is a service, then why doesn't it work? I contacted Danny every day for 10 days on Telegram, but he didn't resolve anything. You should read the first message. There are screenshots there.

  • @yabl0ky said:

    @jbiloh said: You filed a paypal dispute, right? So you lose the ability to talk about whether your service is active or not. Full stop.

    PayPal ruled in favor of DediRock because he told them that he provided the service in full, so who is lying? If there is no service, then where is my money? If there is a service, then why doesn't it work? I contacted Danny every day for 10 days on Telegram, but he didn't resolve anything. You should read the first message. There are screenshots there.

    I'm not sure there's any percentage in this dialog though man. Paypal ruled against you, @DediRock is still offering the refund, take the money and run.

    I wouldn't bother with his offer of keeping the services but that's just me. Although.. you never got the services you actually contracted for so I dunno what he's talking about keeping them online, whatever though.

  • yabl0kyyabl0ky Member
    edited November 2025

    @DediRock said: @yabl0ky if close it right now, I'll refund immediately, and leave the servers on.

    How will you get your money back? How will you technically do that?
    As for the servers, they still don't work, and I don't know how you convinced PayPal that you provided the service. Even the website itself isn't working at the moment


    Click to view

    well, or here

    well, or here

    And here the site decided that it had already served its purpose :neutral:

    Thank you, I don't need your servers, I need my money, but I don't understand, first of all, what guarantees do you have that you will return it to me, and secondly, how will this work technically? Bank transfer? IBAN? Or PayPal?

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • @jbiloh said: If you message @DediRock and ask to make a happy solution I am 100% sure it will get fully resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

    Can you personally guarantee that DediRock will refund my money if I close the dispute in PayPal?

    @jbiloh said: And I disagree 100% that being an A+ guy, like Danny is, doesn't translate to how you do business. I think it matters.

    You probably didn't read the discussion. I asked Danny many times to give me my money back, and this nice guy kindly promised me many times that he would do so, and here we are.

  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said: @yabl0ky if close it right now, I'll refund immediately, and leave the servers on.

    How will you get your money back? How will you technically do that?
    As for the servers, they still don't work, and I don't know how you convinced PayPal that you provided the service. Even the website itself isn't working at the moment


    well, or here

    well, or here

    And here the site decided that it had already served its purpose :neutral:

    Thank you, I don't need your servers, I need my money, but I don't understand, first of all, what guarantees do you have that you will return it to me, and secondly, how will this work technically? Bank transfer? IBAN? Or PayPal?

    Hey @yabl0ky I understand man, ya once you close it, then we refund back to original payment method, very simple and straight forward.

    Hoping for the best man.

  • @DediRock said: Hey @yabl0ky I understand man, ya once you close it, then we refund back to original payment method, very simple and straight forward.

    Can you explain how you will technically return the money? I'm not sure if my account can accept it, for example.

    Thanked by 1DediRock
  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said: Hey @yabl0ky I understand man, ya once you close it, then we refund back to original payment method, very simple and straight forward.

    Can you explain how you will technically return the money? I'm not sure if my account can accept it, for example.

    hey @yabl0ky it just goes back to original form of payment. Or I can just send you a payment, either way is cool.

    Thx

  • yabl0kyyabl0ky Member
    edited November 2025

    @DediRock said: hey @yabl0ky it just goes back to original form of payment. Or I can just send you a payment, either way is cool.

    If the forum administrator (This is how I understand it: @jbiloh ) agrees to guarantee that you will fulfill your promises, I will do so.

  • At this point I am rooting for @DediRock to just close the account and keep the money.
    The amount of work for some 7$ VPS can't be worth it.
    Mjj behavior o:)

  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited November 2025

    @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said: hey @yabl0ky it just goes back to original form of payment. Or I can just send you a payment, either way is cool.

    If the forum administrator (This is how I understand it: @jbiloh ) agrees to guarantee that you will fulfill your promises, I will do so.

    Why so fussy? If I was next to you I'd pay you from my own pocket right away and ask Danny to pay me later.

    You have LET as witness, just take te money.

    Thanked by 2dmax vedran
  • nonocebnonoceb Member
    edited November 2025

    This discussion is very enlightening. It's impossible to stop the dispute after so many lies.
    This logic of avoiding conflict resolution via PayPal is just a statistical argument in favor of the provider : “Look, I refund every time, this customer is an exception, there's no point in trying to understand the situation.”
    In fact, everything is done to go beyond the simple situation: no services = refund.
    The strategy is crystal clear.

  • @DediRock said:

    @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said: Hey @yabl0ky I understand man, ya once you close it, then we refund back to original payment method, very simple and straight forward.

    Can you explain how you will technically return the money? I'm not sure if my account can accept it, for example.

    hey @yabl0ky it just goes back to original form of payment. Or I can just send you a payment, either way is cool.

    @DediRock - for your protection, do not do an out-of-paypal payment in lieu of a refund.

    Refund it through paypal. Then it's between the customer and paypal how the money gets back to his payment source.

    But keeping it looking like he's paid and you paying him a different way means he still has the opportunity to appeal even after he gets the money from you. From the way he's acting, he sounds like that kind of customer.

  • @stable_genius said: You have LET as witness, just take te money.

    I'm just asking the forum administration for guarantees that the good guy won't deceive me again.

  • @yabl0ky said:

    @DediRock said: Hey @yabl0ky I understand man, ya once you close it, then we refund back to original payment method, very simple and straight forward.

    Can you explain how you will technically return the money? I'm not sure if my account can accept it, for example.

    This is rich. All this bitching and whining for refund and now your account can't take refund.

  • plot twist

  • I favourise to end this discussion here and let them do the last steps in PM.
    The guarantee of payback is allready given. Mr Biloh says it too, take the money back and forget the story.

  • yabl0kyyabl0ky Member
    edited November 2025

    Okay, let's wrap this up. I'm canceling sports betting on PayPal, and I'm asking @DediRock to refund my money.

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