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mengta · October 2025

Happy GreenCloud’s 12th Birthday

FAT32 · October 2025

@nullnothere said:

@FAT32 said:

@anakara said:

@anakara said:
The only thing I care about is who took the single VDS LA?

It won't be you @FAT32 ?

Nah I picked HK

Closed to HCM and HN by letter

Wow! We're neighbo(u)rs!

I would think that HK will be preferred over JP for CN routes - isn't that correct?

Even HCM/HN are "closer" and so I would have thought they're better routing wise but I guess JP (specifically Softbank) seems to be very good for CN.

Any one care to enlighten why HK < JP in CN routes?

HK used economy route, but it doesnt bother me because still closer to SG (where I am at)

MJJs · October 2025

@nullnothere said:

@FAT32 said:

@anakara said:

@anakara said:
The only thing I care about is who took the single VDS LA?

It won't be you @FAT32 ?

Nah I picked HK

Closed to HCM and HN by letter

Wow! We're neighbo(u)rs!

I would think that HK will be preferred over JP for CN routes - isn't that correct?

Even HCM/HN are "closer" and so I would have thought they're better routing wise but I guess JP (specifically Softbank) seems to be very good for CN.

Any one care to enlighten why HK < JP in CN routes?

Although Hong Kong is closer to China, the internet connection there is actually worse when reaching China. Without network optimization, it routes through the United States, resulting in high latency

anakara · October 2025

@nullnothere said:

@FAT32 said:

@anakara said:

@anakara said:
The only thing I care about is who took the single VDS LA?

It won't be you @FAT32 ?

Nah I picked HK

Closed to HCM and HN by letter

Wow! We're neighbo(u)rs!

I would think that HK will be preferred over JP for CN routes - isn't that correct?

Even HCM/HN are "closer" and so I would have thought they're better routing wise but I guess JP (specifically Softbank) seems to be very good for CN.

Any one care to enlighten why HK < JP in CN routes?

You can ignore the @FAT32 being noisy while running your horse at full power 😁

nullnothere · October 2025

@FAT32 said: HK used economy route

Even then, since it's so "close" to mainland China, I would have thought even average routing from HK would be better than other places (including JP).

HuiW · October 2025

@FAT32 said:

@nullnothere said:

@FAT32 said:

@anakara said:

@anakara said:
The only thing I care about is who took the single VDS LA?

It won't be you @FAT32 ?

Nah I picked HK

Closed to HCM and HN by letter

Wow! We're neighbo(u)rs!

I would think that HK will be preferred over JP for CN routes - isn't that correct?

Even HCM/HN are "closer" and so I would have thought they're better routing wise but I guess JP (specifically Softbank) seems to be very good for CN.

Any one care to enlighten why HK < JP in CN routes?

HK used economy route, but it doesnt bother me because still closer to SG (where I am at)

HK is also a good location, I remember there is a zone from leaseweb

FAT32 · October 2025

@nullnothere said:

@FAT32 said: HK used economy route

Even then, since it's so "close" to mainland China, I would have thought even average routing from HK would be better than other places (including JP).

It is close but the routing is more like

HK -> US -> CN
HK -> JP -> CN

nullnothere · October 2025

@MJJs said:

@nullnothere said:

@FAT32 said:

@anakara said:

@anakara said:
The only thing I care about is who took the single VDS LA?

It won't be you @FAT32 ?

Nah I picked HK

Closed to HCM and HN by letter

Wow! We're neighbo(u)rs!

I would think that HK will be preferred over JP for CN routes - isn't that correct?

Even HCM/HN are "closer" and so I would have thought they're better routing wise but I guess JP (specifically Softbank) seems to be very good for CN.

Any one care to enlighten why HK < JP in CN routes?

Although Hong Kong is closer to China, the internet connection there is actually worse when reaching China. Without network optimization, it routes through the United States, resulting in high latency

Oh. I didn't realize that it was that bad. I guess that's why HK isn't popuplar (typically) with MJJs and those who need "optimal" CN routes?

sh97 · October 2025

@nullnothere said: Any one care to enlighten why HK < JP in CN routes?

With proper optimisation or direct peering with one of the 3C operators in China, HK is actually better.

For JP, if the upstream has IIJ or Softbank, it has better connectivity towards 1 or 2 of the 3C's, and holds a stable connection even during peak hours. I think at the moment Softbank is preferred by MJJs.

HuiW · October 2025

@FAT32 said:

@nullnothere said:

@FAT32 said: HK used economy route

Even then, since it's so "close" to mainland China, I would have thought even average routing from HK would be better than other places (including JP).

It is close but the routing is more like

HK > US > CN
HK > JP > CN

that's exactly the traceroute

cybertech · October 2025

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nullnothere · October 2025

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: Any one care to enlighten why HK < JP in CN routes?

With proper optimisation or direct peering with one of the 3C operators in China, HK is actually better.

If you have any tests you want me to run... I'm the guinea pig.

For JP, if the upstream has IIJ or Softbank, it has better connectivity towards 1 or 2 of the 3C's, and holds a stable connection even during peak hours. I think at the moment Softbank is preferred by MJJs.

Yes - Softbank seems to be preferred (vs IIJ) but it looks like JP (SB+IIJ) is still >>> HK.

I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Does the GFW also block SSH by default?

bokuyaba · October 2025

@nullnothere said:

@FAT32 said:

@anakara said:

@anakara said:
The only thing I care about is who took the single VDS LA?

It won't be you @FAT32 ?

Nah I picked HK

Closed to HCM and HN by letter

Wow! We're neighbo(u)rs!

I would think that HK will be preferred over JP for CN routes - isn't that correct?

Even HCM/HN are "closer" and so I would have thought they're better routing wise but I guess JP (specifically Softbank) seems to be very good for CN.

Any one care to enlighten why HK < JP in CN routes?

Because Hong Kong is only geographically close to China, but in reality, regular Hong Kong VPSs don’t have direct network routes to China — you get what I mean?
Hong Kong VPSs that do have direct routes to China are very expensive, much more costly than Japan’s SoftBank or IIJ routes. That’s why MJJs prefer Japan — it offers cheaper SoftBank and IIJ connectivity.

HuiW · October 2025

@cybertech said:

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cybertech · October 2025

@HuiW said:

@cybertech said:

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rhodo · October 2025

Happy GreenCloud’s 12th Birthday

sh97 · October 2025

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

cainyxues · October 2025

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

resident mjj analysis

bokuyaba · October 2025

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

See, this is what we call professionalism.

FAT32 · October 2025

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

I am strongly suspecting you are a MJJ

bluesking · October 2025

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

got it

anakara · October 2025

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

🍾🍾🍾

HuiW · October 2025

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

The only reason you know MJJ so well is because you are a MJJ

tuc · October 2025



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david · October 2025

I opened a ticket with sales for the free birthday spin. Did I send it to the right department, or should it go to tech support?

nullnothere · October 2025

@FAT32 said:

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

I am strongly suspecting you are a MJJ

He is special calinese speaking, chicken giving, network analyzing, bandwidth busting MJJ.

He is yuge fan of amazing, great Yeric.

bokuyaba · October 2025

@FAT32 said:

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

I am strongly suspecting you are a MJJ

No, MJJs usually aren’t this professional — I’m MJJ myself.

AiLiBoss · October 2025

@FAT32 said:

@sh97 said:

@nullnothere said: I assume that HK and/or JP allow breaking free from GFW (with low latency)?

Not really, any connection goes through GFW.

The only difference is the Premium routes from 3C's. - CN2-4809, CUIB-9929, CMIN2 use dedicated lines so during peak hours, your traffic is given the priority to enter mainland, whereas "ordinary lines" face severe congestion.

For JP, it looks like 1-2 3C's have enough capacity peering with IIJ/Softbank.
For rest of the operators, even for T1 ISPs, the ports are maxed out, and the 3C's are unwilling to increase the port capacity - so that they can milk users/ISPs to go for their premium line.

From my observations and testing, it looks like China Mobile is the "friendliest" now. In fact, if your VPS has Lumen as an upstream in HK, it works as good as an optimized line.

I am strongly suspecting you are a MJJ

MJJ members need flash sales

Equus · October 2025

@david said:
I opened a ticket with sales for the free birthday spin. Did I send it to the right department, or should it go to tech support?

Actually, they are the same

Arirang · October 2025

@david said:
I opened a ticket with sales for the free birthday spin. Did I send it to the right department, or should it go to tech support?

I did with sales department three times.

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