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Is HostDZire Sustainable?

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited July 2025

    Thank you @FAT32 - Meanwhile I was preparing a benchmark for @zed so here it is:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu Jul 31 16:17:31 UTC 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 25 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7K62 48-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 16 @ 2595.124 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 31.4 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 236.2 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-37-amd64
    VM Type    : VMWARE
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : MS KOSI AGRICO
    ASN        : AS150623 HOSTDZIRE WEB SERVICES PRIVATE LIMITED
    Location   : Mumbai, Maharashtra (MH)
    Country    : India
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 220.11 MB/s  (55.0k) | 2.44 GB/s    (38.2k)
    Write      | 220.69 MB/s  (55.1k) | 2.45 GB/s    (38.4k)
    Total      | 440.80 MB/s (110.2k) | 4.90 GB/s    (76.6k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 5.82 GB/s    (11.3k) | 5.66 GB/s     (5.5k)
    Write      | 6.12 GB/s    (11.9k) | 6.04 GB/s     (5.9k)
    Total      | 11.94 GB/s   (23.3k) | 11.71 GB/s   (11.4k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 285 Mbits/sec   | 510 Mbits/sec   | 244 ms         
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 211 Mbits/sec   | 525 Mbits/sec   | 253 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 323 Mbits/sec   | 639 Mbits/sec   | 203 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 287 Mbits/sec   | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | --             
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 244 Mbits/sec   | 383 Mbits/sec   | 300 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 187 Mbits/sec   | 533 Mbits/sec   | 250 ms         
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | 353 Mbits/sec   | 365 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1284                          
    Multi Core      | 8870                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/13113937
    
    YABS completed in 12 min 0 sec
    
  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    @Kerger said:
    Honestly, I have some concerns about this provider. Limited quantity flash sales were understandable. But now, with open and seemingly unlimited sales(IN CloudVPS #5 ( FAT32 Special )), the situation feels risky. Either they’ll run into serious overselling or operational issues. Given the current pricing and specs, it no longer seems like a question of profitability — it looks more like a path toward collapse.

    I would have concerns if it was "IN CloudVPS #5 (Kerger Special)".

  • zedzed Member

    @FAT32 said: So in total there's probably about ~120 of $32/yr sold and unknown amount of $48-64/yr sold. I feel rather sorry because this is definitely losing money and hope that they can recoup it back from other means.

    Wow that is impressive, glad I missed it so I'm not in any way responsible for the deadpooling of @HostDZire and I will definitely miss my $24 wdc unit, you greedy bastards.

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited July 2025

    @zed said:

    @FAT32 said: So in total there's probably about ~120 of $32/yr sold and unknown amount of $48-64/yr sold. I feel rather sorry because this is definitely losing money and hope that they can recoup it back from other means.

    Wow that is impressive, glad I missed it so I'm not in any way responsible for the deadpooling of @HostDZire and I will definitely miss my $24 wdc unit, you greedy bastards.

    I don't know if any customer is greedy at this point. Remember: the stock should have been 5. It is not anybody's fault that a limited event with a flash special of 5 turned into 120.

    EDIT: The only issue would be the provider getting greedy for about $3840.

    Thanked by 1FAT32
  • zedzed Member

    @default said:

    @zed said:

    @FAT32 said: So in total there's probably about ~120 of $32/yr sold and unknown amount of $48-64/yr sold. I feel rather sorry because this is definitely losing money and hope that they can recoup it back from other means.

    Wow that is impressive, glad I missed it so I'm not in any way responsible for the deadpooling of @HostDZire and I will definitely miss my $24 wdc unit, you greedy bastards.

    I don't know if any customer is greedy at this point. Remember: the stock should have been 5. It is not anybody's fault that a limited event with a flash special of 5 turned into 120.

    EDIT: The only issue would be the provider getting greedy for about $3840.

    You could have said gosh this is definitely unsustainable and so we should not purchase this because we are nice!

  • ArmyArmy Member

    I'd like to grab one of the $32 flash sale packages.

  • VoidVoid Member

    Is it back on stock? Send me the link please

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Here we go again...

  • KergerKerger Member

    @FAT32 said:
    Here we go again...

    The direction of the discussion has gone a bit off. Please close the thread.

    Thanked by 1FAT32
  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2025

    @FAT32 said:

    @zed said:
    Somebody link this deal that made @HostDZire seem unsustainable, it must have been a killer and I wanna see what I missed!

    First I really feels like I should say sorry about this... it all started as a joke as I am a little bit bored with work and it is already like 2am for me.

    Here's the specs:

    • AMD EPYC Inside
    • CPU: 16 vCPU
    • RAM: 32GB DDR4
    • Storage: 240GB NVMe
    • Bandwidth: 8TB (In+Out Both Counted)
    • Port: 10Gbit (Shared)
    • 1 IPV4
    • Port 25 is Blocked
    • $32/yr

    It was supposedly to be a 50 people event (where 50 people tries to get the 5 limited FAT32 special deal), but it ends up selling about 30-40 instances of such deal because @HostDZire is too drunk and forgot to set quantity limit, so everyone should be happy.

    HostDZire additionally helped to release a few more limited stocks to some of the members here, which roughly adds up to about 50 instances sold. A while later, HostDZire joined a similar hosting community and offered about 50 more instances as far as I am aware.

    During the process, some other variants of it was sold (From range of $48-64), but the quantity is not known. And just a few days later, there's a round 2 on both platforms after gathering 200 likes and another 20-30 was sold at price of $32/yr.

    So in total there's probably about ~120 of $32/yr sold and unknown amount of $48-64/yr sold. I feel rather sorry because this is definitely losing money and hope that they can recoup it back from other means.

    I have seen them being attacked by people who didn't managed to get it and poor Trustpilot reviews just because of that. Thanks HostDZire for the craziness and hope people can stop bothering them because that amount of insane deal is not really seen of. Please understand that provider have no obligation to make unsustainable deals.

    @FAT32 Is right,

    It all started as fun, later it became real.
    We had no idea about other forums, but their admin requested me to do some deals there too, so we went there and did it.

    Then later i thought why not clear stock, after all we had lots of servers lying there in rack.
    So we created more plans and sold it.

    Remember!
    I am not complaining that we sold many.
    Users are complaining why we sold many :D

    Till now i didn't get even 5 complains of performance issues.
    Because there isn't, all node are running normal. Uses are within good range.

    We got some complains for disk I/O being 3-4GB/s range
    Because our yabs were showing like 7-8GB/s
    For this we already given explanation, that all node doesnt have NVMe with Raid.
    So 3-4GB/s is single NVMe performance, which is only possible if there is no high load.

    CPU performance also is within good range,
    Again diff diff cpu, diff diff results. eg some multi core is like 7-10k range.
    But not dramatically low,
    We can see the node load, if we had seen high load, then we could have easily offered refund to clients who complained.

    I have seen some people doing stress testing to check performance,
    Even then performance is within acceptable range.

    But users are welcome to give your inputs.
    We have nothing to loose here,
    For deals like this its easy to offer refund, because remember we didnt made money out of this, we just cleared stock :blush:

    Even now we have lots of Intel Lying in rack, powered off to save power ;)

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @default said:
    Thank you @FAT32 - Meanwhile I was preparing a benchmark for @zed so here it is:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu Jul 31 16:17:31 UTC 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 25 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7K62 48-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 16 @ 2595.124 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 31.4 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 236.2 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-37-amd64
    VM Type    : VMWARE
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : MS KOSI AGRICO
    ASN        : AS150623 HOSTDZIRE WEB SERVICES PRIVATE LIMITED
    Location   : Mumbai, Maharashtra (MH)
    Country    : India
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 220.11 MB/s  (55.0k) | 2.44 GB/s    (38.2k)
    Write      | 220.69 MB/s  (55.1k) | 2.45 GB/s    (38.4k)
    Total      | 440.80 MB/s (110.2k) | 4.90 GB/s    (76.6k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 5.82 GB/s    (11.3k) | 5.66 GB/s     (5.5k)
    Write      | 6.12 GB/s    (11.9k) | 6.04 GB/s     (5.9k)
    Total      | 11.94 GB/s   (23.3k) | 11.71 GB/s   (11.4k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 285 Mbits/sec   | 510 Mbits/sec   | 244 ms         
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 211 Mbits/sec   | 525 Mbits/sec   | 253 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 323 Mbits/sec   | 639 Mbits/sec   | 203 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 287 Mbits/sec   | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | --             
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 244 Mbits/sec   | 383 Mbits/sec   | 300 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 187 Mbits/sec   | 533 Mbits/sec   | 250 ms         
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | 353 Mbits/sec   | 365 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1284                          
    Multi Core      | 8870                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/13113937
    
    YABS completed in 12 min 0 sec
    

    This performance is good right ?

  • TangeTange Member

    well, they are resellers, do you know how the reseller program works

    sales reach $10000, 5% profit

    sales reach $20000, 10% profit

    etc...

    all they care about is sales number, more sales = more discount from datacenter = more profit

    Thanked by 1Kerger
  • Relax, it’s all good. Word is the servers took a tumble off a truck in Guangzhou, China — premium sourcing strategy

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited July 2025

    @HostDZire said:

    @default said:
    Thank you @FAT32 - Meanwhile I was preparing a benchmark for @zed so here it is:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu Jul 31 16:17:31 UTC 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 25 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7K62 48-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 16 @ 2595.124 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 31.4 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 236.2 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-37-amd64
    VM Type    : VMWARE
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : MS KOSI AGRICO
    ASN        : AS150623 HOSTDZIRE WEB SERVICES PRIVATE LIMITED
    Location   : Mumbai, Maharashtra (MH)
    Country    : India
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 220.11 MB/s  (55.0k) | 2.44 GB/s    (38.2k)
    Write      | 220.69 MB/s  (55.1k) | 2.45 GB/s    (38.4k)
    Total      | 440.80 MB/s (110.2k) | 4.90 GB/s    (76.6k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 5.82 GB/s    (11.3k) | 5.66 GB/s     (5.5k)
    Write      | 6.12 GB/s    (11.9k) | 6.04 GB/s     (5.9k)
    Total      | 11.94 GB/s   (23.3k) | 11.71 GB/s   (11.4k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 285 Mbits/sec   | 510 Mbits/sec   | 244 ms         
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 211 Mbits/sec   | 525 Mbits/sec   | 253 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 323 Mbits/sec   | 639 Mbits/sec   | 203 ms         
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 287 Mbits/sec   | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | --             
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 244 Mbits/sec   | 383 Mbits/sec   | 300 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 187 Mbits/sec   | 533 Mbits/sec   | 250 ms         
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | 353 Mbits/sec   | 365 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1284                          
    Multi Core      | 8870                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/13113937
    
    YABS completed in 12 min 0 sec
    

    This performance is good right ?

    I'm happy so far. I can't complain. You will never see me asking for refund based on a fear of future. Nobody can know the future, therefore I reflect at the moment of now and learning from history. So far you provided the service as advertised, while your brand exists since 2014. Right now I can only say "Thank You" with a sincere respect.

    Back then (when I ordered) I would have happily accepted if you could not have provided to me the service, just in case I was beyond the first 5. But that was not the case. So again: I have respect for you in managing this in a professional way!

    I hope you know what you are doing, because at the end of the day you have to make money and put bread on your table. That said, this is why I share a bit of a worry with others - I don't want to see people failing - I want to see them thrive, especially low-end providers with 10+ years of history.

  • navneetkknavneetkk Member
    edited July 2025

    That 32-FAT32 special was too great of a deal.

    I am pretty sure on this Indian provider that they're thriving as a business and I hope that they will survive the next 10 years here on LET 😅

  • hizzelyhizzely Member
    edited July 2025

    @HostDZire said:

    @FAT32 said:

    @zed said:
    Somebody link this deal that made @HostDZire seem unsustainable, it must have been a killer and I wanna see what I missed!

    First I really feels like I should say sorry about this... it all started as a joke as I am a little bit bored with work and it is already like 2am for me.

    Here's the specs:

    • AMD EPYC Inside
    • CPU: 16 vCPU
    • RAM: 32GB DDR4
    • Storage: 240GB NVMe
    • Bandwidth: 8TB (In+Out Both Counted)
    • Port: 10Gbit (Shared)
    • 1 IPV4
    • Port 25 is Blocked
    • $32/yr

    It was supposedly to be a 50 people event (where 50 people tries to get the 5 limited FAT32 special deal), but it ends up selling about 30-40 instances of such deal because @HostDZire is too drunk and forgot to set quantity limit, so everyone should be happy.

    HostDZire additionally helped to release a few more limited stocks to some of the members here, which roughly adds up to about 50 instances sold. A while later, HostDZire joined a similar hosting community and offered about 50 more instances as far as I am aware.

    During the process, some other variants of it was sold (From range of $48-64), but the quantity is not known. And just a few days later, there's a round 2 on both platforms after gathering 200 likes and another 20-30 was sold at price of $32/yr.

    So in total there's probably about ~120 of $32/yr sold and unknown amount of $48-64/yr sold. I feel rather sorry because this is definitely losing money and hope that they can recoup it back from other means.

    I have seen them being attacked by people who didn't managed to get it and poor Trustpilot reviews just because of that. Thanks HostDZire for the craziness and hope people can stop bothering them because that amount of insane deal is not really seen of. Please understand that provider have no obligation to make unsustainable deals.

    @FAT32 Is right,

    It all started as fun, later it became real.
    We had no idea about other forums, but their admin requested me to do some deals there too, so we went there and did it.

    Then later i thought why not clear stock, after all we had lots of servers lying there in rack.
    So we created more plans and sold it.

    Remember!
    I am not complaining that we sold many.
    Users are complaining why we sold many :D

    Till now i didn't get even 5 complains of performance issues.
    Because there isn't, all node are running normal. Uses are within good range.

    We got some complains for disk I/O being 3-4GB/s range
    Because our yabs were showing like 7-8GB/s
    For this we already given explanation, that all node doesnt have NVMe with Raid.
    So 3-4GB/s is single NVMe performance, which is only possible if there is no high load.

    CPU performance also is within good range,
    Again diff diff cpu, diff diff results. eg some multi core is like 7-10k range.
    But not dramatically low,
    We can see the node load, if we had seen high load, then we could have easily offered refund to clients who complained.

    I have seen some people doing stress testing to check performance,
    Even then performance is within acceptable range.

    But users are welcome to give your inputs.
    We have nothing to loose here,
    For deals like this its easy to offer refund, because remember we didnt made money out of this, we just cleared stock :blush:

    Even now we have lots of Intel Lying in rack, powered off to save power ;)

    I wish LET has emoji reaction for this. Thanks is not enough, I wanna give <3

    To this day, I believe I could grab that too good to be true $32 FAT32 deal only because of @HostDZire generosity. Because I cannot compete in terms of speed.

    TBH, I was expecting that deal to never see the light ever again, because again, it simply too good to be true. Hope you all the success!

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @navneetkk said:
    That 32-FAT32 special was too great of a deal.

    I am pretty sure on this Indian provider that they're thriving as a business and I hope that they will survive the next 10 years here on LET 😅

    Nobody knows the future. One thing is certain: provider won't be able to increase prices, at least not on the current global economy, otherwise customers will leave faster than you can say "host" trailing behind a sour taste spiced with awful reviews.

    Thanked by 3mandala navneetkk FAT32
  • @HostDZire said:

    @FAT32 said:

    @zed said:
    Somebody link this deal that made @HostDZire seem unsustainable, it must have been a killer and I wanna see what I missed!

    First I really feels like I should say sorry about this... it all started as a joke as I am a little bit bored with work and it is already like 2am for me.

    Here's the specs:

    • AMD EPYC Inside
    • CPU: 16 vCPU
    • RAM: 32GB DDR4
    • Storage: 240GB NVMe
    • Bandwidth: 8TB (In+Out Both Counted)
    • Port: 10Gbit (Shared)
    • 1 IPV4
    • Port 25 is Blocked
    • $32/yr

    It was supposedly to be a 50 people event (where 50 people tries to get the 5 limited FAT32 special deal), but it ends up selling about 30-40 instances of such deal because @HostDZire is too drunk and forgot to set quantity limit, so everyone should be happy.

    HostDZire additionally helped to release a few more limited stocks to some of the members here, which roughly adds up to about 50 instances sold. A while later, HostDZire joined a similar hosting community and offered about 50 more instances as far as I am aware.

    During the process, some other variants of it was sold (From range of $48-64), but the quantity is not known. And just a few days later, there's a round 2 on both platforms after gathering 200 likes and another 20-30 was sold at price of $32/yr.

    So in total there's probably about ~120 of $32/yr sold and unknown amount of $48-64/yr sold. I feel rather sorry because this is definitely losing money and hope that they can recoup it back from other means.

    I have seen them being attacked by people who didn't managed to get it and poor Trustpilot reviews just because of that. Thanks HostDZire for the craziness and hope people can stop bothering them because that amount of insane deal is not really seen of. Please understand that provider have no obligation to make unsustainable deals.

    @FAT32 Is right,

    It all started as fun, later it became real.
    We had no idea about other forums, but their admin requested me to do some deals there too, so we went there and did it.

    Then later i thought why not clear stock, after all we had lots of servers lying there in rack.
    So we created more plans and sold it.

    Remember!
    I am not complaining that we sold many.
    Users are complaining why we sold many :D

    Till now i didn't get even 5 complains of performance issues.
    Because there isn't, all node are running normal. Uses are within good range.

    We got some complains for disk I/O being 3-4GB/s range
    Because our yabs were showing like 7-8GB/s
    For this we already given explanation, that all node doesnt have NVMe with Raid.
    So 3-4GB/s is single NVMe performance, which is only possible if there is no high load.

    CPU performance also is within good range,
    Again diff diff cpu, diff diff results. eg some multi core is like 7-10k range.
    But not dramatically low,
    We can see the node load, if we had seen high load, then we could have easily offered refund to clients who complained.

    I have seen some people doing stress testing to check performance,
    Even then performance is within acceptable range.

    But users are welcome to give your inputs.
    We have nothing to loose here,
    For deals like this its easy to offer refund, because remember we didnt made money out of this, we just cleared stock :blush:

    Even now we have lots of Intel Lying in rack, powered off to save power ;)

    When I’m not a broke student I’m going to send @HostDZire a bottle of tequila!

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @default said:

    @navneetkk said:
    That 32-FAT32 special was too great of a deal.

    I am pretty sure on this Indian provider that they're thriving as a business and I hope that they will survive the next 10 years here on LET 😅

    Nobody knows the future. One thing is certain: provider won't be able to increase prices, at least not on the current global economy, otherwise customers will leave faster than you can say "host" trailing behind a sour taste spiced with awful reviews.

    India VPS, Server price is very high.
    India is just getting started, it will take time since price will become like EU, US.
    So, i think we will have like 5 years till we will see many other providers offering deals like this.

    There will always be something new to sell, currently GPU servers are being sold at good prices. So similarly, there will always be something which we can sell with a good margin.

  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    All hosts are different, and the finances are different, lots of variables involved.

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  • @hizzely said:

    @HostDZire said:

    @FAT32 said:

    @zed said:
    Somebody link this deal that made @HostDZire seem unsustainable, it must have been a killer and I wanna see what I missed!

    First I really feels like I should say sorry about this... it all started as a joke as I am a little bit bored with work and it is already like 2am for me.

    Here's the specs:

    • AMD EPYC Inside
    • CPU: 16 vCPU
    • RAM: 32GB DDR4
    • Storage: 240GB NVMe
    • Bandwidth: 8TB (In+Out Both Counted)
    • Port: 10Gbit (Shared)
    • 1 IPV4
    • Port 25 is Blocked
    • $32/yr

    It was supposedly to be a 50 people event (where 50 people tries to get the 5 limited FAT32 special deal), but it ends up selling about 30-40 instances of such deal because @HostDZire is too drunk and forgot to set quantity limit, so everyone should be happy.

    HostDZire additionally helped to release a few more limited stocks to some of the members here, which roughly adds up to about 50 instances sold. A while later, HostDZire joined a similar hosting community and offered about 50 more instances as far as I am aware.

    During the process, some other variants of it was sold (From range of $48-64), but the quantity is not known. And just a few days later, there's a round 2 on both platforms after gathering 200 likes and another 20-30 was sold at price of $32/yr.

    So in total there's probably about ~120 of $32/yr sold and unknown amount of $48-64/yr sold. I feel rather sorry because this is definitely losing money and hope that they can recoup it back from other means.

    I have seen them being attacked by people who didn't managed to get it and poor Trustpilot reviews just because of that. Thanks HostDZire for the craziness and hope people can stop bothering them because that amount of insane deal is not really seen of. Please understand that provider have no obligation to make unsustainable deals.

    @FAT32 Is right,

    It all started as fun, later it became real.
    We had no idea about other forums, but their admin requested me to do some deals there too, so we went there and did it.

    Then later i thought why not clear stock, after all we had lots of servers lying there in rack.
    So we created more plans and sold it.

    Remember!
    I am not complaining that we sold many.
    Users are complaining why we sold many :D

    Till now i didn't get even 5 complains of performance issues.
    Because there isn't, all node are running normal. Uses are within good range.

    We got some complains for disk I/O being 3-4GB/s range
    Because our yabs were showing like 7-8GB/s
    For this we already given explanation, that all node doesnt have NVMe with Raid.
    So 3-4GB/s is single NVMe performance, which is only possible if there is no high load.

    CPU performance also is within good range,
    Again diff diff cpu, diff diff results. eg some multi core is like 7-10k range.
    But not dramatically low,
    We can see the node load, if we had seen high load, then we could have easily offered refund to clients who complained.

    I have seen some people doing stress testing to check performance,
    Even then performance is within acceptable range.

    But users are welcome to give your inputs.
    We have nothing to loose here,
    For deals like this its easy to offer refund, because remember we didnt made money out of this, we just cleared stock :blush:

    Even now we have lots of Intel Lying in rack, powered off to save power ;)

    I wish LET has emoji reaction for this. Thanks is not enough, I wanna give <3

    To this day, I believe I could grab that too good to be true $32 FAT32 deal only because of @HostDZire generosity. Because I cannot compete in terms of speed.

    TBH, I was expecting that deal to never see the light ever again, because again, it simply too good to be true. Hope you all the success!

    Me too! Big thanks to HostDzire! <3

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  • @HostDZire said:

    @default said:

    @navneetkk said:
    That 32-FAT32 special was too great of a deal.

    I am pretty sure on this Indian provider that they're thriving as a business and I hope that they will survive the next 10 years here on LET 😅

    Nobody knows the future. One thing is certain: provider won't be able to increase prices, at least not on the current global economy, otherwise customers will leave faster than you can say "host" trailing behind a sour taste spiced with awful reviews.

    India VPS, Server price is very high.
    India is just getting started, it will take time since price will become like EU, US.
    So, i think we will have like 5 years till we will see many other providers offering deals like this.

    There will always be something new to sell, currently GPU servers are being sold at good prices. So similarly, there will always be something which we can sell with a good margin.

    Dude, make that deals as Non-Transferrable.

    I mean, it may sound stinky. But it helps in Long Run.

    Stay Sustainable mate & don’t be on verge of Deadpool

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @Deepak_leb said:

    @HostDZire said:

    @default said:

    @navneetkk said:
    That 32-FAT32 special was too great of a deal.

    I am pretty sure on this Indian provider that they're thriving as a business and I hope that they will survive the next 10 years here on LET 😅

    Nobody knows the future. One thing is certain: provider won't be able to increase prices, at least not on the current global economy, otherwise customers will leave faster than you can say "host" trailing behind a sour taste spiced with awful reviews.

    India VPS, Server price is very high.
    India is just getting started, it will take time since price will become like EU, US.
    So, i think we will have like 5 years till we will see many other providers offering deals like this.

    There will always be something new to sell, currently GPU servers are being sold at good prices. So similarly, there will always be something which we can sell with a good margin.

    Dude, make that deals as Non-Transferrable.

    I mean, it may sound stinky. But it helps in Long Run.

    Stay Sustainable mate & don’t be on verge of Deadpool

    We already added some terms for transferring.

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  • NoctNoct Member

    @HostDZire said:
    First people complain about not getting the deal
    Then people ask us to add more stock of that deal.
    Then again people complain why we posted more deal.

    You mean?

    @HostDZire said:
    First people complain about not getting the deal
    Then people ask us to add more stock of that deal.
    Then again a solitary human dummy asked ChatGPT to complain why we posted more deal.

  • NoctNoct Member

    @raindog308 said:

    @Noct said: your reliance on ChatGPT

    Every time I see an em dash, I assume AI. Most people would have no clue how to make that character on their keyboard.

    @Kerger said: Given the current pricing and specs, it no longer seems like a question of profitability — it looks more like a path toward collapse.

    Em dash aside, this sentence structure just feels very ChatGPT.

    Given the current prevalence of persons relying on ChatGPT to write their posts, it no longer seems like a question of literacy — it looks more like a path toward Idiocracy.

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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @HostDZire said:

    We already added some terms for transferring.

    Please elaborate on this.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited August 2025

    @HostDZire said:
    First people complain about not getting the deal
    Then people ask us to add more stock of that deal.
    Then again people complain why we posted more deal.

    [image]

    Well, this is LET ...

    @artxs said:
    @Kerger I think you overestimate the number of people who want an indian vps. I'd guess a majority of anyone who want a vps in singapore or japan or hong kong are chinese users who need to jailbreak out of their country, or people who want websites for people in china. They don't want a vps in India because it's far from everywhere. Most likely, the people who bought indian vps are either hoarders or local Indian users. The hoarders will be idling them, and having idle vps is better than having no vps with zero revenue.

    Not quite, anyway not generally. Depends a lot on perspective. I for example got one as a reference due to its good connectivity. And it also makes sense for well over a billion people, and I'm not even counting Indians here. Simple reason: one can reach a large region with about 100 ms to 150 ms stripped off.

    @zed said:
    You could have said gosh this is definitely unsustainable and so we should not purchase this because we are nice!

    Well, I intentionally did not get or even try to get one of the @FAT32 specials but a (quite decent) normal one. Two reasons:

    • while I'm very confident that @HostDZire can and will easily absorb any "damage" I still find the whole thing weird and basically abusing HostDZire's friendliness and good will. and I definitely do not want to harm HostDZire. But I respect that Fat32 basically apologized.
    • I simply do not need such a VPS beast. 2 or 4 cores, 4 or 8 GB memory and a decently sized SSD are damn good enough for my needs. And for the few use cases where that isn't sufficient I simply purchase an adequate (physical or virtual) machine.

    To be frank, normally I would hold the FAT32 special against the provider because it would harm my trust in them. But I don't because HostDZire earned to be in my personal Top-3 list due to good prices, good quality, consistency, and good support.

    Finally 120 VPS is next to nothing for a provider like HostDZire a provider who is good end big enough to be a significant Leaseweb partner and those who seriously wonder whether HostDzire still is financially stable just make me laugh out loud.

    That said, still please don't do something like the FAT32 special again! You are a serious top provider so please act like that!

  • @jsg said: I simply do not need such a VPS beast. 2 or 4 cores, 4 or 8 GB memory and a decently sized SSD are damn good enough for my needs. And for the few use cases where that isn't sufficient I simply purchase an adequate (physical or virtual) machine.

    Well said. If only I can always resist the temptation but tbh most of us likely wont need such a beast so I settled with 8C16G which still too much for me but I mainly went for the bigger disk (it only comes with bigger spec so no choice).

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  • DT27DT27 Member

    long live HostDZire <3

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  • @jsg said:
    Not quite, anyway not generally. Depends a lot on perspective. I for example got one as a reference due to its good connectivity. And it also makes sense for well over a billion people, and I'm not even counting Indians here. Simple reason: one can reach a large region with about 100 ms to 150 ms stripped off.

    No, it makes no sense to get a vps in India unless your market is India. If your market is oriental Asia, it makes much more sense to get a vps in SG, HK, JP, or even west coast US. This argument is even stronger especially with restrictive Indian laws, and the bandwidth limit makes it no better than SG. $32/year is practically giving them away, and that in itself tells you a whole lot about the demand for it. There's no other perspective. You can run yabs and feel good about the connectivity, but at the end of the day, it's nothing more than a poor but cheap substitute for a good vps in Singapore.

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