NameCrane Black Friday - CraneMail Email Hosting + Cloud Storage Launch with Lifetime Deal

twoconcept · May 2025

@Francisco said:

@twoconcept said: That ok?

No.

We're not going to do splits or things like that. You're just asking for a lot more billing work for no reason.

Besides, what happens if we bump the price again and now you want to split, and keep an older price? Now we have to argue about it or charge you the difference.

Francisco

Sure. Appreciate the clarification. Will make a decision on this. Thanks.

Chalipa · May 2025

[@Francisco said]
Maybe this month, more likely in June.

The LUX DA nodes are now in NL (though networking is still routing via LUX). I've asked LU X to ship all of the spares + empty nodes to NL. My hope is they get there later this week, or early next, and we can finish moving the cPanel users.

At the moment I'm working on offload SQL's for NL & UK, and then Cranemail EU after that.

Francisco

How can we keep ourselves updated when you have Switzerland ready? I'm not lux-02 (DA) and would want to move to Swiss when it's ready?

I don't know how much Swiss is more privacy friendly, but I head they very much are compared to NL.

Francisco · May 2025

@Chalipa said: How can we keep ourselves updated when you have Switzerland ready? I'm not lux-02 (DA) and would want to move to Swiss when it's ready?

I don't know how much Swiss is more privacy friendly, but I head they very much are compared to NL.

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We'll make a post here and mention it on discord

We'll try to make an effort to start sending mass emails about product changes/improvements/etc.

Francisco

Turbo_Pascal · May 2025

@Francisco said: We'll try to make an effort to start sending mass emails about product changes/improvements/etc.

Bravo. I can't keep browsing LowEndTalk to stay updated. Too time consuming.

Cantello · May 2025

Wanted to add a user to my hosted email (login as postmaster, domain settings, add account) and SmarterMail says "Object reference not set to an instance of an object" - Any idea what that means and how to correct it?

JabJab · May 2025

@Cantello said:
Wanted to add a user to my hosted email (login as postmaster, domain settings, add account) and SmarterMail says "Object reference not set to an instance of an object" - Any idea what that means and how to correct it?

Open ticket with details, @Francisco loves to fix his code :-D

JabJab · May 2025

also as I am already here - got an email last weekend, so just copy-paste for marketing purpose aka Europe sooooooooon.

Hey — turns out we got a little busy and never formally introduced CraneMail.

It’s our new email hosting platform, that's packed with some extra features:
✓ Full-featured webmail
✓ Calendar, contacts, task management
✓ Online meetings & company chat
✓ File storage & sharing, with rClone support (SFTP/FTPS in testing)
✓ SpamExperts filtering
✓ SMTP/POP/IMAP/ActiveSync (Z-Push)/EWS support

CraneMail also has a first for us, a Lifetime Deal option — pay once, use it forever.

Try the live demo: https://demo.crane.email
View all plans & features: https://namecrane.com/cranemail-email-hosting

--

Now live in the US (Las Vegas) — and launching next week in the EU (Amsterdam).

Lock in our intro lifetime pricing on US plans before it goes up with the EU launch:

250GB for up to 15 domains — just $69.42 one-time
Or try our low-commitment plan: 100GB for $10/year or $20/3 years

Questions? Check the site or just open a ticket — we’re here to help.

Cheers,
Mike (Crane Enthusiast)

Note: If you want your plan hosted in the EU, wait for next week’s launch. All current plans are US-based (for life), with no ability to migrate.

bagongz · May 2025

hi there, is there any docs so we can make integration with our billing system for reseller?

Francisco · May 2025

@bagongz said:
hi there, is there any docs so we can make integration with our billing system for reseller?

I need to write better guides but for the most part you just add the module, add a server into whmcs/blesta , make products.

The readme on each module explains custom fields if you want them.

Francisco

ypmLA77zcs · May 2025

@Francisco I just reopened Ticket #CRANE-11660 as I'm apparently blocked by the firewall again while doing nothing other than leaving Apple Mail open (MacOS)

Kobian · May 2025

US1 server having issues?

Socheat · May 2025

@Kobian said:
US1 server having issues?

What issue are you having? Working fine here.

Francisco · May 2025

@Kobian said: US1 server having issues?

Did, all good now.

Basically, smartermail memleaks and by default it doesn't autorestart itself since they don't have that enabled. That's just silly, but, i've patched that now.

Francisco

Motion3549 · May 2025

Just ordered the lifetime deals. Waiting on the line for the service to be online.

Francisco · May 2025

@Motion3549 said: Just ordered the lifetime deals. Waiting on the line for the service to be online.

Should be ready soon Karen should be on shift by now.

Welcome aboard!

Francisco

Motion3549 · May 2025

@manuv said:

@Francisco said:

@hyperblast said:
cranemail europe (not EU) must come early!

is there a rough idea of what 250G cranemail europe will cost?

Mike's working on that.

@COLBYLICIOUS said:
WE WANT EU PLANS

We know

@manuv said:
May be @NameCrane / @Francisco can consider an option for early adopters (who wanna give NC $$$ to generate interest ($) and okay with idling the service for a while) to move service to EU once its available.

Something like they get new EU service and their US service (and data) gets purged in 7 days. Onus on user to move data if they want so that there's no overhead cost incurred to NC.

We're not hard up for cash. We're just ironing out any bugs and adding missing features to the cranemail panel.

Fear not, we're hard at work. I'm actively working on self-serve spamexperts transfers. After that, it'll be a 'Users' section for you to do the usual CRUD actions.

Francisco

Thanks, i am gonna idle for a while as i have no immediate need to move my existing infra over. My reason for LT deal was because you are doing inhouse cranemail panel - i thought users can give suggestions so that wide variety of innovative features can be implemented as a hosted service. Like simplelogin as many potentially use / wanna use something like it.

For example, I would love to have following functionality implemented.

Domain - somemail.ext

Users / mailbox created manually - [email protected]. This is also set as the catchall.

A separate webpage in the console which lists all "aliases" under somemail.ext to which emails were being sent (this is captured automatically). The user ([email protected]) can send email as any alias listed in this webpage. Also there's a manage function which can turn on / off the alias (to block forwarding) or limit who can send to that alias (like a regex)

Usecase 1 - dynamic alias

Example i am at tom's pet store, i ask tom to send me invoice at [email protected]; this is caught by the catchall and forwarded to [email protected].

At the same time, [email protected] is listed under the aforementioned webpage automatically. [email protected] can send email as [email protected].

Usecase 2 - control rate of abuse

If tom start spamming with ton of marketing, admin can disable / pause [email protected] so that emails are no longer forwarded to [email protected].

Usecase 3 - prevent phishing / similar. Or restricted mailbox within orgs.

I gave [email protected] to my chase banker. In the aforesaid webpage, I can enforce only *@chase.com can sent emails to [email protected] so that some random dude who spoofs/masks can't send ransom emails.

Just throwing it out & hoping some / most of these can be implemented by @NameCrane

Sorry for bumping the threads, but this usecase is very good ideas, is it already implemented? @Francisco @NameCrane, thanks.

ypmLA77zcs · June 2025

Hi @Francisco and @NameCrane - is it against the TOS to check the webmail server using something like Uptime Kuma, etc using standard once-a-minute pings? Trying to do this due to recently being blocked by the firewall for seemingly no reason, and I want to know whether it's my connection or an actual outage

TIA

atkl · June 2025

@Motion3549 said:

@manuv said:
For example, I would love to have following functionality implemented.

Domain - somemail.ext

Users / mailbox created manually - [email protected]. This is also set as the catchall.

A separate webpage in the console which lists all "aliases" under somemail.ext to which emails were being sent (this is captured automatically). The user ([email protected]) can send email as any alias listed in this webpage. Also there's a manage function which can turn on / off the alias (to block forwarding) or limit who can send to that alias (like a regex)

Usecase 1 - dynamic alias

Example i am at tom's pet store, i ask tom to send me invoice at [email protected]; this is caught by the catchall and forwarded to [email protected].

At the same time, [email protected] is listed under the aforementioned webpage automatically. [email protected] can send email as [email protected].

Usecase 2 - control rate of abuse

If tom start spamming with ton of marketing, admin can disable / pause [email protected] so that emails are no longer forwarded to [email protected].

Usecase 3 - prevent phishing / similar. Or restricted mailbox within orgs.

I gave [email protected] to my chase banker. In the aforesaid webpage, I can enforce only *@chase.com can sent emails to [email protected] so that some random dude who spoofs/masks can't send ransom emails.

Just throwing it out & hoping some / most of these can be implemented by @NameCrane

Sorry for bumping the threads, but this usecase is very good ideas, is it already implemented? @Francisco @NameCrane, thanks.

+1000
Indeed, really very good ideas!
I don't think I saw that anywhere, would be really one of a kind

ypmLA77zcs · June 2025

@ypmLA77zcs said:
Hi @Francisco and @NameCrane - is it against the TOS to check the webmail server using something like Uptime Kuma, etc using standard once-a-minute pings? Trying to do this due to recently being blocked by the firewall for seemingly no reason, and I want to know whether it's my connection or an actual outage

TIA

Hi @Francisco, I configured an uptime monitor for both the IMAP service and webmail (https://us1.workspace.org/) and seeing short downtimes every once in a while. Today for instance it glitched a few times between 8:29 to 8:40 PM EST, just as I was trying to run an IMAP backup script.

Another short glitch was on June 9 at 11:57 AM EST. Can you please take a look perhaps there's something deeper going on?

TIA

Francisco · June 2025

@ypmLA77zcs said: Hi @Francisco, I configured an uptime monitor for both the IMAP service and webmail (https://us1.workspace.org/) and seeing short downtimes every once in a while. Today for instance it glitched a few times between 8:29 to 8:40 PM EST, just as I was trying to run an IMAP backup script.

Another short glitch was on June 9 at 11:57 AM EST. Can you please take a look perhaps there's something deeper going on?

Smartermail has some lockups that we're working with the dev's to get to the bottom of. Mike & I are quick to kick it when it acts up.

I've given a few ideas to the SM dev's on what it might be so i'm waiting for them to merge those changes.

Francisco

poctopus · June 2025

@Francisco
I currently have an email service at hostmonster (which has been acquired by bluehost), and I want to migrate the original email content to namecrane. Is there a corresponding solution?

bdl · June 2025

@poctopus said:
@Francisco
I currently have an email service at hostmonster (which has been acquired by bluehost), and I want to migrate the original email content to namecrane. Is there a corresponding solution?

https://imapsync.lamiral.info/

Francisco · June 2025

@bdl said:

@poctopus said:
@Francisco
I currently have an email service at hostmonster (which has been acquired by bluehost), and I want to migrate the original email content to namecrane. Is there a corresponding solution?

https://imapsync.lamiral.info/

NameCrane has migrations built in as well. You don’t have to use a 3rd party script.

Imap imports are very easy and automated inside SM.

Francisco

ypmLA77zcs · July 2025

@Francisco said:

@Smigit said:
Would be good to support oauth import too for those mail providers that support it. Google for example has dropped support for password based connections via IMAP, so you’d need OAUTH there (and maybe some provider specific stuff?).

FWIW I migrated from Google Workspace to Fastmail earlier this year and used the Fastmail migration tools, as per their doco. Make sure your migration can support repeated runs. I was moving about 13-14GB of mail and the process did drop a few times and need re-executing. Fastmails migration wouldn’t attempt to retrieve everything again (as far as I could tell)....looks like they were comparing hashes of something to avoid repeating already migrated mail.

SM is actively working on oauth, but I’m not sure to what extent (just as an auth method or for imports too?) so I won’t chase that one until we see more.
...

Hi @Francisco, any progress to report on OAuth support from SmarterMail?

TIA

Gary92 · August 2025

Hi everyone, I stumbled upon this thread earlier today while looking for info about new email providers (I'm debating whether or not to change). I read that the service is both "email hosting and cloud storage", but even after reading more or less the entire thread (my eyes are bleeding), I'm still left with a few doubts:

Is the EU location available? I see there's an option during checkout, but it's best to ask.
I lost the link to the specific comment, but I read that there are plans to make the service GDPR-compliant (because of possibly expanding the business into the domain registration field, if I remember correctly). What's the status of the service in this regard? Is it already GDPR-compliant?
Is the cloud storage like the one offered by the usual companies (Microsoft, Google, Nextcloud, Infomaniak, etc.), or is it designed more as a "email companion tailored for business stuff"? Based on the file limitations described in this post, I think it's the latter more than the former (therefore, it would not be suitable as a proper replacement for OneDrive, GDrive, kDrive, etc).
Is cloud storage easily accessible on both desktop and mobile devices (e.g. PCs and smartphones)? I read that there is experimental support for rclone (?).
Are there any differences between subscription and lifetime plans, in terms of features/performance/limitations?
At the moment, the domain must be purchased separately (and elsewhere), is that correct?

For the record, for now the service would be for personal use only, as main email provider and/or full substitute for the above-mentioned services (mainly depending on the type of cloud storage offered).

Francisco · August 2025

@Gary92 said:
Hi everyone, I stumbled upon this thread earlier today while looking for info about new email providers (I'm debating whether or not to change). I read that the service is both "email hosting and cloud storage", but even after reading more or less the entire thread (my eyes are bleeding), I'm still left with a few doubts:

Is the EU location available? I see there's an option during checkout, but it's best to ask.

I lost the link to the specific comment, but I read that there are plans to make the service GDPR-compliant (because of possibly expanding the business into the domain registration field, if I remember correctly). What's the status of the service in this regard? Is it already GDPR-compliant?

Is the cloud storage like the one offered by the usual companies (Microsoft, Google, Nextcloud, Infomaniak, etc.), or is it designed more as a "email companion tailored for business stuff"? Based on the file limitations described in this post, I think it's the latter more than the former (therefore, it would not be suitable as a proper replacement for OneDrive, GDrive, kDrive, etc).

Is cloud storage easily accessible on both desktop and mobile devices (e.g. PCs and smartphones)? I read that there is experimental support for rclone (?).

Are there any differences between subscription and lifetime plans, in terms of features/performance/limitations?

At the moment, the domain must be purchased separately (and elsewhere), is that correct?

For the record, for now the service would be for personal use only, as main email provider and/or full substitute for the above-mentioned services (mainly depending on the type of cloud storage offered).

1) Yes.
2) We don't have any fancy certs for it yet, but we protect user data and all that.
3) The file restrictions have been removed at this point. There's a size limit of 10G?
4) There's rclone as well as FTPS available.
5) Nope, shares the same hardware. Lifetimes have limits on domains like the rest.
6) Yes, we're all crane, no name, at the moment.

Francisco

Gary92 · August 2025

@Francisco said:

1) Yes.
2) We don't have any fancy certs for it yet, but we protect user data and all that.
3) The file restrictions have been removed at this point. There's a size limit of 10G?
4) There's rclone as well as FTPS available.
5) Nope, shares the same hardware. Lifetimes have limits on domains like the rest.
6) Yes, we're all crane, no name, at the moment.

Francisco

Thanks for the quick reply... so I'll take this opportunity to send another question :P

I currently use a dedicated service for emails (no, it's not MXroute, even though I know it's one of the best) with a custom domain, a dedicated service for file storage, and yet another service for calendars + tasks + some file storage (still kind of testing this one). While it might not be a good idea to put all my eggs in one basket again after departing from Microsoft/Google services a few years ago, the prospect of bringing everything back under a single account is tempting in terms of convenience. So I'll ask you a "mean" question and also ask you to be honest, even though I know "I'm asking the host how the wine is": do you think the service is suitable/ready to be used as a full-fledged general-purpose alternative to the more popular Microsoft 365, Google GSuite, etc? I mean for the needs of an occasional user with some familiarity with technology.

Of course, nothing stops me from creating an account and trying it out for a few days, probably with a monthly plan (I have to check if I have any free personal domains to test it out with). I read that refunds are only excluded for lifetime plans, but I'll try to check the refund policies just to be sure.

Thank you again for the reply.

Gary92 · August 2025

@Francisco I've decided to buy a 1-year plan to try the service. I have two questions:
1. Is the refund window only 3 days, or is it a typo and it should say 30 days?
2. I know rclone support is in beta, but I'm having various issues syncing files to my PC. Is there a guide on the website about recommended/needed configuration?

Gary92 · August 2025

@Francisco said:

@Gary92 said:
[...]
3. Is the cloud storage like the one offered by the usual companies (Microsoft, Google, Nextcloud, Infomaniak, etc.), or is it designed more as a "email companion tailored for business stuff"? Based on the file limitations described in this post, I think it's the latter more than the former (therefore, it would not be suitable as a proper replacement for OneDrive, GDrive, kDrive, etc).
[...]

[...]
3) The file restrictions have been removed at this point. There's a size limit of 10G?
[...]

Francisco

I've just tried uploading an EXE file and a JS files: both were rejected. Are you sure that the file restrictions have been removed? I'll open a ticket, meanwhile (just to be sure).

ypmLA77zcs · August 2025

@Francisco, both the web service as well as IMAP of https://us1.workspace.org/ are down

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