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Feeling Abducted by CharityHost_org

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  • @xHosts said:

    @cybertech said:
    how is an ftp storage publicly accessible? enlighten me.

    That is something I asked here and in the private thread too.

    I have shared advise on the private thread on moving forward to prevent this issue.

    im no provider but if ftp storage can be public someone is really amateur there. but it could be me.

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  • Trying to be completely fair and giving @CharityHost_org the absolute benefit of the doubt. Let's say everything they said was 100% true. After reading though this, here is my take away:

    1. You noticed a new account completely filled up its storage in a day. (perfectly reasonable thing to monitor)
    2. You checked publicly accessible http/https to see if they were hosting anything illegal PUBLICLY (Also completely reasonable)
    3. You noticed it was all porn, likely copyrighted, and against TOS.
    4. And here is the fuck up. You suspend the account and extort $25 to reactivate it.

    What you SHOULD have done is contact the customer, explain the issue, and he would have told you he was using it for private storage and likely didn't understand it was accessible in the clear. You should have worked with him to remediate it and then looked at how the default ftp settings and docs work on your side to make sure that customers that aren't as savvy don't fill up their public_html folders with private stuff. Dust off your hands and know you actually serviced your customers well for a change.

    As a complete side note though, sometimes I wonder how I as a person am able to run a business and maintain the lifestyle I do for my family, then I read stuff like this and jesus christ I would never act so emotionally in public to my customers. It's absolute insanity how many fully grown adults cant separate their emotions from business and try to actually build something. @CharityHost_org EVERYTHING you did here just screams you don't want business. I could have ended this post on the first page with the info above and a little logic, but you just blamed people and pretended to be attacked. grow up. this is not rocket surgery.

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  • @daspork said:
    Trying to be completely fair and giving @CharityHost_org the absolute benefit of the doubt. Let's say everything they said was 100% true. After reading though this, here is my take away:

    1. You noticed a new account completely filled up its storage in a day. (perfectly reasonable thing to monitor)
    2. You checked publicly accessible http/https to see if they were hosting anything illegal PUBLICLY (Also completely reasonable)
    3. You noticed it was all porn, likely copyrighted, and against TOS.
    4. And here is the fuck up. You suspend the account and extort $25 to reactivate it.

    What you SHOULD have done is contact the customer, explain the issue, and he would have told you he was using it for private storage and likely didn't understand it was accessible in the clear. You should have worked with him to remediate it and then looked at how the default ftp settings and docs work on your side to make sure that customers that aren't as savvy don't fill up their public_html folders with private stuff. Dust off your hands and know you actually serviced your customers well for a change.

    As a complete side note though, sometimes I wonder how I as a person am able to run a business and maintain the lifestyle I do for my family, then I read stuff like this and jesus christ I would never act so emotionally in public to my customers. It's absolute insanity how many fully grown adults cant separate their emotions from business and try to actually build something. @CharityHost_org EVERYTHING you did here just screams you don't want business. I could have ended this post on the first page with the info above and a little logic, but you just blamed people and pretended to be attacked. grow up. this is not rocket surgery.

    First of all, @CharityHost_org gets enough business from ministry, churches (as per their own statement) so OP like customers are not their priority. They have built an image of "charity" so my guess is, they have a pretty strong reputation in niche market (but big market) which are not penetrated by other hosting sites that easily. In short, they would probably like if OP goes away from their site.

    Secondly, if someone is providing a private ftp access, then public access should be disabled by default. It is there only because you are using a panel in order to provide the ftp access, that also comes with shared hosting. If still you want to go ahead, then keep a text file naming it, "DON'T UPLOAD HERE IF YOU DON'T WANT PUBLIC TO SEE YOUR FILES!"

    at least a few from the crowd could understand what that means and prevent these issues.

  • Secondly, if someone is providing a private ftp access, then public access should be disabled by default. It is there only because you are using a panel in order to provide the ftp access, that also comes with shared hosting. If still you want to go ahead, then keep a text file naming it, "DON'T UPLOAD HERE IF YOU DON'T WANT PUBLIC TO SEE YOUR FILES!"

    at least a few from the crowd could understand what that means and prevent these issues.

    Yeah kinda my point, they coulda used it as a learning opportunity and made their solution more robust rather than making it drama. This was easy to diffuse.

  • Isn't this over yet? WTF!

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  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @jure12 said:
    Isn't this over yet? WTF!

    Shocking aint it?!

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  • @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @jure12 said:
    Isn't this over yet? WTF!

    Shocking aint it?!

    Just like that, little by little I started to feel sick.

  • @jure12 said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @jure12 said:
    Isn't this over yet? WTF!

    Shocking aint it?!

    Just like that, little by little I started to feel sick.

    i usually feel better after YABS.

  • I don't see any point of some people whining here..

    1. If it makes you sick seeing repeatedly, you can simply ignore.
    2. OP can request to close the thread.
    3. Others are discussing but if it gets closed everybody will respect the decision.
    4. Others can flag the thread for closing.

    But all these non constructive whining posts put relevant posts away from the focus.

  • Had the OP read and understood the AUP, this issue wouldn't have existed

  • @jure12 said:
    Isn't this over yet? WTF!

    nothing is over! (c) john rambo

  • @timmmy said:
    Had the OP read and understood the AUP, this issue wouldn't have existed

    Even if we ignore all the other things (like the extortion fee), had the company even just followed their own ToS, then OP probably wouldn't have opened a thread that currently has 27 pages.

    Emphasis mine:

    We do not permit illegal, illicit, or R-rated activity on our servers. This includes pornography, gambling, email spam, web scraping, and virtual activities prohibited by state/federal/international privacy and communication laws. If we have reason to suspect that your activities constitute a violation of the AUP, then we will provide a warning. After the warning, if we have reason to suspect that action has not been taken within 48 hours, we reserve the right to terminate services.

    This text is still there by the way.

  • ralfralf Member

    @MichaelCee said:
    All jokes aside, there are communities available to help with porn addiction. You are not alone OP.

    He might have to give up on the chicken and go cold turkey.

  • @itachikonoha said:

    @bdspice said:

    @imcool said:
    I've followed this thread since the very beginning. Every time I thought about how unexpectedly honest the OP was, I couldn't help smiling. My biggest achievement from this drama was that now I've known, literally for the first time in my life, what a desi adult video clip is like...

    i intend to be honest till my last statement here.

    Since I came to LET, I thought of you as one irritating dude but as I see it now, I just misinterpreted your posts earlier.

    I stand corrected. As a fellow forum member, my respect for you have increased due to this honesty. I myself would hesitate to put everything in public if I put in similar scenarios.

    i dont know why you feel irritating by me. i do comment only if i feel it is relevant. i am glad that anyhow i am able to change your POV for me.

  • @Astro said:

    @bdspice said:

    @imcool said:
    I've followed this thread since the very beginning. Every time I thought about how unexpectedly honest the OP was, I couldn't help smiling. My biggest achievement from this drama was that now I've known, literally for the first time in my life, what a desi adult video clip is like...

    i intend to be honest till my last statement here.

    So where can I see these videos? You know. For science

    i can send you links in dm, but cant share my ftp link since its not allowed.

  • @JasonM said:
    so, OP, did you got your porn stuff back (for free) from @CharityHost_org or not yet?

    yes. unsuspended and give proper time to take backup

  • @Levi said:
    Op long time gone, he does not care. Accused party also gone. Pointless discussion.

    it was EID Festival so i was busy and out of network most of time. when i got time, i used it to take the backup

  • @CharityHost_org said:

    @JasonM said: so, OP, did you got your porn stuff back (for free) from @CharityHost_org or not yet?

    The fee was waived and was unsuspended so that OP would download and remove it and not host porn on CharityHost.org in public_html. The trigger, honestly, was the full disk space on the account. Once we saw that, we noticed it was public whether their domain was serving it directly or not, it's hosts file capable to host publicly.

    The reason we do not permit porn publicly hosted, is due to the nature of our long running customers ethics on the matter, being ministries, churches, ngos, etc. Just to be clear, we understand that legal porn hosting, is legal, that's not the problem. $25 fee for aup violation is waived when it is non-fault AUP violation by the customer. We implemented this to dissuade abuse and TOS/AUP violations by new customers. We do not and will not login to customers accounts without permission, but this was public and we hold our AUP seriously for the above reasons.

    Storage is dedicated. Not fair share. Why would you care if disk is full?

    Also was OP hosting a public website for their private collection? Please be clear and specific and not presumptuous

  • @timmmy said:
    Had the OP read and understood the AUP, this issue wouldn't have existed

    since its named ftp storage account and provide a dummy domain, i though it is only access able to via ftp. I never though public_html folder would make any fact. even i read the and understand the tos and aup , then i would know the issue will started when he didn't give me warning and 48 hours.

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  • @bdspice said:

    @timmmy said:
    Had the OP read and understood the AUP, this issue wouldn't have existed

    since its named ftp storage account and provide a dummy domain, i though it is only access able to via ftp. I never though public_html folder would make any fact. even i read the and understand the tos and aup , then i would know the issue will started when he didn't give me warning and 48 hours.

    How did you Upload the files? An ftp client will always show what dir you're uploading to. If you could ONLY upload to public, that's on the provider.
    If you could change dir and you still uploaded to public, that's on you.

  • bdspicebdspice Member
    edited April 2025

    since this thread become popular for few days, i think i should make a final statement here. at first, i am posting my ticket video screen record from charityhost to understand very clearly what we talked.
    https://streamtape.com/v/gPrzgXqzPasqKA2/Recording_2025-04-06_013113.mp4

    I Got ftp storage account with dummy domain(ftp.myname.com) so i though it is only for private use. so i stored it in public_html folder. after 40 days, i got a suspension email. after 2 day, i opened this ticket, asked for backup if unsuspend is not possible and got replied to pay 25$. so i asked him here in DM though he would consider as a let user. but same answer so i opened this ticket. here a lot of smart guys got the point which i missed. we asked him how he know i host porn, he said he scanned public_html folder but at last he said he checked it because of disk is showing full. When i got suspension email, my first though was he notice me because of full disk and my though is right. at first, he show arrogant by calling all troller and he never admit his mistake. thats why i asked for suspend his provider tag. when he unsuspend me and give me time to take backup i though he realize his mistake and honestly i appreciate if he try to fix his mistake and admit his mistake. but today i saw his ticket is closed after saying i violated the tos twice. i admitted i violated first one > "Host adult content/pornographic material." but i dont agree with that i violated the second one. > "Disparage, tarnish, or harm us or the Services." By such allegation, i think he is still arrogant about his mistake and he dont think he made a mistake. if he dont feel guilty for violating users privacy, i think i should stay on my demand to @DP @armandorg and other admin team for his provider suspension. since he didn't suspend me, i think he shouldn't be banned here.

    my reputation is destroyed here by saying i store 500gb porn, but i took risk only for get justice. if you people think i dont deserve justice in this case then i will ask for close the topics. my loss is already been done. reputation is much more valuable then 500gb porn, but i prefer honesty and justice should be serve by all to all.

  • @bdspice said:
    since this thread become popular for few days, i think i should make a final statement here. at first, i am posting my ticket video screen record from charityhost to understand very clearly what we talked.

    I Got ftp storage account with dummy domain(ftp.myname.com) so i though it is only for private use. so i stored it in public_html folder. after 40 days, i got a suspension email. after 2 day, i opened this ticket, asked for backup if unsuspend is not possible and got replied to pay 25$. so i asked him here in DM though he would consider as a let user. but same answer so i opened this ticket. here a lot of smart guys got the point which i missed. we asked him how he know i host porn, he said he scanned public_html folder but at last he said he checked it because of disk is showing full. When i got suspension email, my first though was he notice me because of full disk and my though is right. at first, he show arrogant by calling all troller and he never admit his mistake. thats why i asked for suspend his provider tag. when he unsuspend me and give me time to take backup i though he realize his mistake and honestly i appreciate if he try to fix his mistake and admit his mistake. but today i saw his ticket is closed after saying i violated the tos twice. i admitted i violated first one > "Host adult content/pornographic material." but i dont agree with that i violated the second one. > "Disparage, tarnish, or harm us or the Services." By such allegation, i think he is still arrogant about his mistake and he dont think he made a mistake. if he dont feel guilty for violating users privacy, i think i should stay on my demand to @DP @armandorg and other admin team for his provider suspension. since he didn't suspend me, i think he shouldn't be banned here.

    my reputation is destroyed here by saying i store 500gb porn, but i took risk only for get justice. if you people think i dont deserve justice in this case then i will ask for close the topics. my loss is already been done. reputation is much more valuable then 500gb porn, but i prefer honesty and justice should be serve by all to all.

    On top of that Eid is over and yet you didn't get to enjoy those movies right? Hard times :(

    Thanked by 3air4x admax Mumbly
  • @barbaros said:

    @bdspice said:
    since this thread become popular for few days, i think i should make a final statement here. at first, i am posting my ticket video screen record from charityhost to understand very clearly what we talked.

    I Got ftp storage account with dummy domain(ftp.myname.com) so i though it is only for private use. so i stored it in public_html folder. after 40 days, i got a suspension email. after 2 day, i opened this ticket, asked for backup if unsuspend is not possible and got replied to pay 25$. so i asked him here in DM though he would consider as a let user. but same answer so i opened this ticket. here a lot of smart guys got the point which i missed. we asked him how he know i host porn, he said he scanned public_html folder but at last he said he checked it because of disk is showing full. When i got suspension email, my first though was he notice me because of full disk and my though is right. at first, he show arrogant by calling all troller and he never admit his mistake. thats why i asked for suspend his provider tag. when he unsuspend me and give me time to take backup i though he realize his mistake and honestly i appreciate if he try to fix his mistake and admit his mistake. but today i saw his ticket is closed after saying i violated the tos twice. i admitted i violated first one > "Host adult content/pornographic material." but i dont agree with that i violated the second one. > "Disparage, tarnish, or harm us or the Services." By such allegation, i think he is still arrogant about his mistake and he dont think he made a mistake. if he dont feel guilty for violating users privacy, i think i should stay on my demand to @DP @armandorg and other admin team for his provider suspension. since he didn't suspend me, i think he shouldn't be banned here.

    my reputation is destroyed here by saying i store 500gb porn, but i took risk only for get justice. if you people think i dont deserve justice in this case then i will ask for close the topics. my loss is already been done. reputation is much more valuable then 500gb porn, but i prefer honesty and justice should be serve by all to all.

    On top of that Eid is over and yet you didn't get to enjoy those movies right? Hard times :(

    to enjoy those, i need maybe 6-8month more :D

    Thanked by 3barbaros admax Decicus
  • _MS__MS_ Member
    edited April 2025

    since this thread become popular for few days, i think i should make a final statement here. at first, i am posting my ticket video screen record from charityhost to understand very clearly what we talked.
    https://streamtape.com/v/gPrzgXqzPasqKA2/Recording_2025-04-06_013113.mp4

    I Got ftp storage account with dummy domain(ftp.myname.com) so i though it is only for private use. so i stored it in public_html folder. after 40 days, i got a suspension email. after 2 day, i opened this ticket, asked for backup if unsuspend is not possible and got replied to pay 25$. so i asked him here in DM though he would consider as a let user. but same answer so i opened this ticket. here a lot of smart guys got the point which i missed. we asked him how he know i host porn, he said he scanned public_html folder but at last he said he checked it because of disk is showing full. When i got suspension email, my first though was he notice me because of full disk and my though is right. at first, he show arrogant by calling all troller and he never admit his mistake. thats why i asked for suspend his provider tag. when he unsuspend me and give me time to take backup i though he realize his mistake and honestly i appreciate if he try to fix his mistake and admit his mistake. but today i saw his ticket is closed after saying i violated the tos twice. i admitted i violated first one > "Host adult content/pornographic material." but i dont agree with that i violated the second one. > "Disparage, tarnish, or harm us or the Services." By such allegation, i think he is still arrogant about his mistake and he dont think he made a mistake. if he dont feel guilty for violating users privacy, i think i should stay on my demand to @DP @armandorg and other admin team for his provider suspension. since he didn't suspend me, i think he shouldn't be banned here.

    my reputation is destroyed here by saying i store 500gb porn, but i took risk only for get justice. if you people think i dont deserve justice in this case then i will ask for close the topics. my loss is already been done. reputation is much more valuable then 500gb porn, but i prefer honesty and justice should be serve by all to all.

    AI overview of the case:

    Final Statement

    • The thread has gained popularity, prompting this final statement.
    • A video screen record from charityhost is shared for clarity on discussions.

    FTP Storage Account Issues

    • An FTP storage account was created with a dummy domain (ftp.myname.com) for private use.
    • Files were stored in the public_html folder.
    • Received a suspension email after 40 days.
    • Opened a support ticket after two days, asking for a backup option if unsuspension was not possible, and was asked to pay $25.

    Suspension Reason

    • Queried the provider on how he knew about hosting porn; he cited scanning the public_html folder.
    • The provider initially displayed arrogance and refused to admit mistakes.

    Provider's Response

    • When unsuspended and given time for a backup, a mistake was expected to be acknowledged, but this was not the case.
    • The ticket was closed, citing two TOS violations.

      Reputation and Justice

    • The user acknowledges one violation but disagrees with the second.

    • The reputation is claimed to be damaged due to the situation.
    • Justice and honesty are emphasized as more valuable than the content in question.
    • Calls for administrative attention regarding the provider's actions.
    Thanked by 2admax nghialele
  • armandorgarmandorg Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2025

    @bdspice said:
    i think i should stay on my demand to @DP @armandorg and other admin team for his provider suspension. since he didn't suspend me, i think he shouldn't be banned here.

    With all the power given to me, i ban you all!

  • @armandorg said:

    @bdspice said:
    i think i should stay on my demand to @DP @armandorg and other admin team for his provider suspension. since he didn't suspend me, i think he shouldn't be banned here.


    With all the power given to me, i ban you all!

    your entertainment already ended thats why

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    [@bdspice said](
    my reputation is destroyed here by saying i store 500gb porn

    No it's not. It's totally healthy. And I am being serious here. 100% sure loooooads of people are storing way more than just 500gb of porn.

    No shame in admitting to the fact. <3

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 2025

    @bdspice said:
    since this thread become popular for few days, i think i should make a final statement here. at first, i am posting my ticket video screen record from charityhost to understand very clearly what we talked.
    https://streamtape.com/v/gPrzgXqzPasqKA2/Recording_2025-04-06_013113.mp4

    You could have uploaded that video at least to youtube or something else that doesn't give you a million adware popups. :neutral:

    Here is some more friendlier sites

    https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
    https://catbox.moe/
    https://uploadbay.net/

    Side note: Most hosts care less about the porn it self. Unless hosting it for others to see then there is a few rules to follow.

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  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @bdspice said:
    since this thread become popular for few days, i think i should make a final statement here. at first, i am posting my ticket video screen record from charityhost to understand very clearly what we talked.
    https://streamtape.com/v/gPrzgXqzPasqKA2/Recording_2025-04-06_013113.mp4

    You could have uploaded that video at least to youtube or something else that doesn't give you a million adware popups. :neutral:

    Here is some more friendlier sites

    https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
    https://catbox.moe/
    https://uploadbay.net/

    Makes sense — as soon as I opened it, 24 ads popped up.

    Thanked by 1beanman109
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