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Feeling Abducted by CharityHost_org

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  • @Levi said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @zed said:

    You're getting hung up on the conventionally used directory names. You can't see a directory listing of "public_html" on any of my accounts. Some of them you can't see anything at all without authentication.

    edit: i don't even use "public_html" as a directory name, for example.

    Maybe. My point is as follows. If the folder is configured (either by the host or by the user) as publicly accessible and the host detects whatever is in breach of AUP by doing a random scan on public folder, I do not believe it is fair to say the host is snooping-pooping user's data. Am I wrong?

    Nope. Imagine that if you host private stuff with feet infected with mildew. Just a mild creative, some necrosis or overgrown nails. It is easy to overreact to such situations. Especially if files named like: lick_and_smell_fungus_prison.mkv

    You didn't come up with this name.....I am now more than interested

  • This public html thing literally is the lamest bs I’ve ever seen - I can’t believe you spent an entire day to come up with this response. I guess there was nothing else better.

    He logs in to customers’ vps, peeks at private files and activities, changing root password etc… To him everything is public that he is entitled to freely poke around and access, as long as it’s hosted with him.

    How can anyone even trust this host with anything anymore? Set up a database or store some private vacation photo, and it’ll probably get dumped and kept in his drawer.

  • Reminds me of this. Unprofessionalism at its finest.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @muffin said:
    This public html thing literally is the lamest bs I’ve ever seen - I can’t believe you spent an entire day to come up with this response. I guess there was nothing else better.

    He logs in to customers’ vps, peeks at private files and activities, changing root password etc… To him everything is public that he is entitled to freely poke around and access, as long as it’s hosted with him.

    How can anyone even trust this host with anything anymore? Set up a database or store some private vacation photo, and it’ll probably get dumped and kept in his drawer.

    There is host witch was caught storing passwords in plain text. He said he “fixed” it and train continue to roll. Why this incident couldn’t go away? It is a matter of good discount.

  • _MS__MS_ Member

    18

    Congratulations, this thread has turned 18, and is now eligible for banging deals.


  • Reading this topic while i have active service
    Feel so bad

  • muffinmuffin Member
    edited March 2025

    @Levi said:

    @muffin said:
    This public html thing literally is the lamest bs I’ve ever seen - I can’t believe you spent an entire day to come up with this response. I guess there was nothing else better.

    He logs in to customers’ vps, peeks at private files and activities, changing root password etc… To him everything is public that he is entitled to freely poke around and access, as long as it’s hosted with him.

    How can anyone even trust this host with anything anymore? Set up a database or store some private vacation photo, and it’ll probably get dumped and kept in his drawer.

    There is host witch was caught storing passwords in plain text. He said he “fixed” it and train continue to roll. Why this incident couldn’t go away? It is a matter of good discount.

    No idea who the host is, but was this for the account level, or service level? If it’s account level that is stupid, but if it’s service level, a lot of panels show decrypted form for the initial password at least.

  • edited March 2025

    @bdspice said: please discuss with whom make the final decision. because we love LET. my data is already gone and i am not regretting at all since all those are freely available on websites. but i love to see no shady provider here which intention is such kind of tricky and invade users privacy. Many of us would love to not see such provider i guess

    You are wrong. The free downloaded porn video data is still there and a ticket response was provided with the unsuspended service. The admin fee was removed as well. You have 48 hours to download your free porn you downloaded from websites without the legal right. If you need more time, respond to the ticket, but it's time limited.

    The free obtained material was in public_html. Now that is clear and in the open, you clearly violated AUP and warranted the suspension.

    Your claim of honeypot seems more true than not, your data is the honeypot to us so you can attack us while breaking AUP and laws.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @muffin said:

    @Levi said:

    @muffin said:
    This public html thing literally is the lamest bs I’ve ever seen - I can’t believe you spent an entire day to come up with this response. I guess there was nothing else better.

    He logs in to customers’ vps, peeks at private files and activities, changing root password etc… To him everything is public that he is entitled to freely poke around and access, as long as it’s hosted with him.

    How can anyone even trust this host with anything anymore? Set up a database or store some private vacation photo, and it’ll probably get dumped and kept in his drawer.

    There is host witch was caught storing passwords in plain text. He said he “fixed” it and train continue to roll. Why this incident couldn’t go away? It is a matter of good discount.

    No idea who the host is, but was this for the account level, or service level? If it’s account level that is stupid, but if it’s service level, a lot of panels show decrypted form for the initial password at least.

    Afaik it was alexhost. It was client level.

    Thanked by 1muffin
  • @Levi said:

    @muffin said:

    @Levi said:

    @muffin said:
    This public html thing literally is the lamest bs I’ve ever seen - I can’t believe you spent an entire day to come up with this response. I guess there was nothing else better.

    He logs in to customers’ vps, peeks at private files and activities, changing root password etc… To him everything is public that he is entitled to freely poke around and access, as long as it’s hosted with him.

    How can anyone even trust this host with anything anymore? Set up a database or store some private vacation photo, and it’ll probably get dumped and kept in his drawer.

    There is host witch was caught storing passwords in plain text. He said he “fixed” it and train continue to roll. Why this incident couldn’t go away? It is a matter of good discount.

    No idea who the host is, but was this for the account level, or service level? If it’s account level that is stupid, but if it’s service level, a lot of panels show decrypted form for the initial password at least.

    Afaik it was alexhost. It was client level.

    Wtf

  • @CharityHost_org said:

    @bdspice said: please discuss with whom make the final decision. because we love LET. my data is already gone and i am not regretting at all since all those are freely available on websites. but i love to see no shady provider here which intention is such kind of tricky and invade users privacy. Many of us would love to not see such provider i guess

    You are wrong. The illegally downloaded porn video data is still there and a ticket response was provided unsuspended the account. The admin fee was removed as well. You have 48 hours to download your free porn you downloaded from websites without the legal right. If you need more time, respond to the ticket, but it's time limited.

    Your claim of honeypot is true, your data is the honeypot to us so you can attack us while breaking AUP and laws.

    To be honest, how can you say "illegally" downloaded porn stash unless:

    1. You are the owner.
    2. You have got take down notice from owners.

    Which one here in this case?

    Secondly you yourself broke your ToS by not providing him 48 hours. OP has to follow but for you, it's jydt whatever you wish for right?

    Be it in lowend because once you deal with cors, you'll be sued right and left.

    Thanked by 1bdspice
  • @itachikonoha said:

    public_html folder not necessarily is public unless configured in Web server.

    If as a user, I have not made public_html accessible, then host will be snooping pooping even in scan of that folder (because it isn't in public domain).

    There's a reason why most providers do not opt such exercises.

    Agreed. Is it what happened with CharityHost?

  • @Levi said:
    Nope. Imagine that if you host private stuff with feet infected with mildew. Just a mild creative, some necrosis or overgrown nails. It is easy to overreact to such situations. Especially if files named like: lick_and_smell_fungus_prison.mkv

    Very interesting story :smiley:

  • LeviLevi Member

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @Levi said:
    Nope. Imagine that if you host private stuff with feet infected with mildew. Just a mild creative, some necrosis or overgrown nails. It is easy to overreact to such situations. Especially if files named like: lick_and_smell_fungus_prison.mkv

    Very interesting story :smiley:

    Nothing extra ordinary, just video stimulation for those who have acquired taste.

    Thanked by 1JohnFilch123
  • there was another provider here that was caught snooping before..@dedicatserver_ro :D

    Thanked by 1gbzret4d
  • @CharityHost_org said:

    @bdspice said: please discuss with whom make the final decision. because we love LET. my data is already gone and i am not regretting at all since all those are freely available on websites. but i love to see no shady provider here which intention is such kind of tricky and invade users privacy. Many of us would love to not see such provider i guess

    You are wrong. The free downloaded porn video data is still there and a ticket response was provided with the unsuspended service. The admin fee was removed as well. You have 48 hours to download your free porn you downloaded from websites without the legal right. If you need more time, respond to the ticket, but it's time limited.

    The free obtained material was in public_html. Now that is clear and in the open, you clearly violated AUP and warranted the suspension.

    Your claim of honeypot seems more true than not, your data is the honeypot to us so you can attack us while breaking AUP and laws.

    since you feel so easy snooping around customers' private data, how should we know that it wasn't you who copied there to extort a quick $25 out of the victim?

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    @CharityHost_org said:

    @bdspice said: please discuss with whom make the final decision. because we love LET. my data is already gone and i am not regretting at all since all those are freely available on websites. but i love to see no shady provider here which intention is such kind of tricky and invade users privacy. Many of us would love to not see such provider i guess

    You are wrong. The free downloaded porn video data is still there and a ticket response was provided with the unsuspended service. The admin fee was removed as well. You have 48 hours to download your free porn you downloaded from websites without the legal right. If you need more time, respond to the ticket, but it's time limited.

    The free obtained material was in public_html. Now that is clear and in the open, you clearly violated AUP and warranted the suspension.

    Your claim of honeypot seems more true than not, your data is the honeypot to us so you can attack us while breaking AUP and laws.

    Can you prove that he did not obtain it legally? Maybe had a premium account to download and save material ?

    Does the metadata of the file some how say "downloaded by shady means and waives all rights of privacy for a nosey provider"

    You have found yourself in a deep hole (no pun) and trying anything to get out of it at this point,

    It is time to put the man pants on, own up to the shady goings on, move on and pray people will move on too.

    Charity begins at home, not trying to extract money under the blanket of an admin fee, I suspect you felt maybe due to the nature of the material the guy would pay up, say nothing and keep it quiet maybe for being embarrassed in some way and that has gone horribly wrong in this instance.

  • @xHosts said: Can you prove that he did not obtain it legally?

    give them 3 days to think of an answer

  • TrKTrK Member

    Hallow sar, posibl storage my pom kolaktion to your ftpee? It s skrape from intarneto thanks u.

  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited March 2025

    Why do @CharityHost_org still have his tag not suspended? His reputation is gone

    @MannDude any new funny info's from the provider thread?

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited March 2025

    This was a roller coaster of emotion. If it was a public_html directory that could not and was not restricted in access by the customer, on a shared server, the host is in some ways obligated to scan for certain things. Every good web host does. For example: https://configserver.com/configserver-exploit-scanner/

    It’s a host’s job to prevent network abuse and if can be accessed by browser in public, without restrictions, a host does have to take at least some amount of action to make sure they notice threats. Anyone merely reacting to abuse complaints and nothing else, that is how you run a dirty network. Sorry, it sounds good, but it doesn’t work.

    Take a look at all of the network abuse from cloud providers, abuse that many if not most of us agree must be dealt with. They react to abuse complaints. But without proactive behavior they never make a dent and the abuse complaints increase beyond their ability to handle them. That’s just the industry.

    However… that proactive activity needs to be very limited. Scanning for PHP shell scripts in public_html on a shared hosting server = good. Scanning for known signatures or file names for CSAM = good. Allowing private file storage and then verifying that said private storage only contains sexy videos but not too sexy videos = bad. I mean, you’d have to watch them to make sure they qualified and weren’t just humorous file names so I guess you’d want to hire someone to watch all videos and check for accidental nipple slips. Just a little too far.

    It’s much nicer to just not host public facing user data. So much easier to not have to walk on egg shells.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @Smigit said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Decicus said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Do I dare to.... ?

    hey @CharityHost_org when you inevitably stumble upon Sara's feet pics on this service, I'll cover the $25 recovery fee if you send it to me, thx

    https://charityhost.net

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @rustelekom said:

    @wadhah said:

    I'm glad you are here,

    Can I store my gay porn collection in your russian servers? Since I can't store them with charityhost anymore

    No. In Russia porn strictly prohibited by law. Also every content about LGBT. Prohibited under penalty of criminal punishment.

    Will you host vps.gay for me pretty please?

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @rustelekom said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @rustelekom said:

    I can recall that a few years ago, in the Netherlands, the host was required by government to check the customer's image files by hash.

    Bullshit.

    No, that is not bullshit. I guess these requirements were related to this initiative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abuse_image_content_list.
    I lost part of my emails before 2019, so I can't provide an exact message. This happened at the Dutch data center.

    Yes, but you're leaving out key information trying to set a narrative.

    That's AFTER A FUCKING COURT ORDER!

    In NL, no host will snoop of your files without being violating the law unless the HAVE A FUCKING COURT ORDER demanding them to do so.

  • adlyadly Veteran

    I realise the Internet is global and laws vary around the world, but the use of Charity in a company name is illegal in the UK, for fairly good reason, and highly misleading at best when the company has absolutely no link to charity/charitable causes. That the provider is also highly unprofessional and frankly inexperienced is just the cherry on top of an already suspicious company, in my opinion.

  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited March 2025

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Smigit said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Decicus said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Do I dare to.... ?

    hey @CharityHost_org when you inevitably stumble upon Sara's feet pics on this service, I'll cover the $25 recovery fee if you send it to me, thx

    https://charityhost.net

    I have not forgotten.
    Please tell me the dns settings, i will edit charityporn.org so you can use it for your storage box.

    @gbzret4d said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Did notice Charityhost offer thread was closed. Mods probably watching closely.

    Closed as requested by @CharityHost_org

    I will open a bottle of champagner if this host goes bancrupt since such acting just shows that you don't care about laws.

    Any refugee offers for our porn collection?

    Might be the right time to launch hostingporn.com.

    charityporn.org

    Give me some minutes... I'll need to open a thread asking for a dmca bulletproof webhoster and domain registrar

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • @CharityHost_org said:

    @bdspice said: please discuss with whom make the final decision. because we love LET. my data is already gone and i am not regretting at all since all those are freely available on websites. but i love to see no shady provider here which intention is such kind of tricky and invade users privacy. Many of us would love to not see such provider i guess

    You are wrong. The free downloaded porn video data is still there and a ticket response was provided with the unsuspended service. The admin fee was removed as well. You have 48 hours to download your free porn you downloaded from websites without the legal right. If you need more time, respond to the ticket, but it's time limited.

    The free obtained material was in public_html. Now that is clear and in the open, you clearly violated AUP and warranted the suspension.

    Your claim of honeypot seems more true than not, your data is the honeypot to us so you can attack us while breaking AUP and laws.

    You are so charitable

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @gbzret4d said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Smigit said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Decicus said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Do I dare to.... ?

    hey @CharityHost_org when you inevitably stumble upon Sara's feet pics on this service, I'll cover the $25 recovery fee if you send it to me, thx

    https://charityhost.net

    I have not forgotten.
    Please tell me the dns settings, i will edit charityporn.org so you can use it for your storage box.

    @gbzret4d said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Did notice Charityhost offer thread was closed. Mods probably watching closely.

    Closed as requested by @CharityHost_org

    I will open a bottle of champagner if this host goes bancrupt since such acting just shows that you don't care about laws.

    Any refugee offers for our porn collection?

    Might be the right time to launch hostingporn.com.

    charityporn.org

    Give me some minutes... I'll need to open a thread asking for a dmca bulletproof webhoster and domain registrar

    I'm good. Charity.porn is doing well.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @rustelekom said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @rustelekom said:

    I can recall that a few years ago, in the Netherlands, the host was required by government to check the customer's image files by hash.

    Bullshit.

    No, that is not bullshit. I guess these requirements were related to this initiative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abuse_image_content_list.
    I lost part of my emails before 2019, so I can't provide an exact message. This happened at the Dutch data center.

    Yes, but you're leaving out key information trying to set a narrative.

    That's AFTER A FUCKING COURT ORDER!

    In NL, no host will snoop of your files without being violating the law unless the HAVE A FUCKING COURT ORDER demanding them to do so.

    Because I do not have that message in my hand, I guess it is useless to discuss this case. However, I remember that it was necessary to check all uploaded files proactively using a hash with that special service, without the order of the court, secret service, or police. This was the reason why we stopped offering shared hosting at that data center.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Will you host vps.gay for me pretty please?

    If you will store there content which is restricted in Russia then your service will suspended soon.

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @rustelekom said:

    @wadhah said:

    I'm glad you are here,

    Can I store my gay porn collection in your russian servers? Since I can't store them with charityhost anymore

    No. In Russia porn strictly prohibited by law. Also every content about LGBT. Prohibited under penalty of criminal punishment.

    Will you host vps.gay for me pretty please?

    If you will store gay content that is restricted in Russia, your service in Russia may be suspended soon.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
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