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Feeling Abducted by CharityHost_org

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  • @CharityHost_org better come clean

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • @mw said:
    to quote @CharityHost_org from the thread the previous screenshot was posted:

    Most 'good and trustworthy and trusting customers' leave the default password unchanged for root VDS with us. Why? Because we support them when in need. Customers that change the password are fine, but start to border on the untrusting side, and that is both ways you know.

    excuse me LMFAO

    epyc!

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • @CharityHost_org said:

    @mw said: excuse me LMFAO

    You need to privacy to secure illegal porn too? All our customers have privacy, security, and data is safe. If they break rules, privacy to break laws, rules, etc on our systems go away. If you cannot trust your host with safeguarding your LEGAL material, honestly, why do you trust them at all? But that's not the case is it? No, you are looking otherwise obviously.

    it would be better if you would stop replying, your ranting (i'm on page 9) is getting more and more stupid.

    Thanked by 2nghialele bdspice
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep
    edited March 2025

    @itachikonoha said:
    What could have CharityHost said....

    ".... We are new in the business and we wanted to make sure that no illegal activities occurs in our server. In order to do that, from time to time, as an extra measure, we perform random audits and OP's account got triggered in the process. We had no intention of snooping in to the contents uploaded by our customers. We didn't realize in the full extent of how it affects the customers in the subject of privacy and we deeply apologise for it. But rest assured, we have no intention of inspecting your files (unless required by legal authorities) and we respect the privacy of the customers.

    This is an extreme case where many outcomes came which we didn't consider before. We admit, this was an error on our part and as a token of good will, we are offering the concerned customer to continue the account if he wishes or we may unlock the account so that he can copy his contents to elsewhere.

    We promise, this won't repeat again."


    That's it. No drama and shows a human touch which will be appreciated by many.

    What ACTUALLY happened in reality tells a whole different story.

    I was actually about to write template for them. It is good but I would add some things.

    • Maybe mention something about automated periodic scans that only check filenames to prevent distribution of abusive material. (so that people think you're not reviewing their files manually)
    • You thought OP was distributing the material since random bots tried to connect to FTP so you blocked it.
    • And end with something about reviewing your TOS to prevent situations like this in the future and clarify you reserve the right to halt the service and demand ransom or sth.

    Give the man his files back, keep the provider tag and clear your reputation. It's THAT simple.

  • @oloke said:

    @itachikonoha said:
    What could have CharityHost said....

    ".... We are new in the business and we wanted to make sure that no illegal activities occurs in our server. In order to do that, from time to time, as an extra measure, we perform random audits and OP's account got triggered in the process. We had no intention of snooping in to the contents uploaded by our customers. We didn't realize in the full extent of how it affects the customers in the subject of privacy and we deeply apologise for it. But rest assured, we have no intention of inspecting your files (unless required by legal authorities) and we respect the privacy of the customers.

    This is an extreme case where many outcomes came which we didn't consider before. We admit, this was an error on our part and as a token of good will, we are offering the concerned customer to continue the account if he wishes or we may unlock the account so that he can copy his contents to elsewhere.

    We promise, this won't repeat again."


    That's it. No drama and shows a human touch which will be appreciated by many.

    What ACTUALLY happened in reality tells a whole different story.

    I was actually about to write template for them. It is good but I would add some things.

    • Maybe mention something about automated periodic scans that only check filenames to prevent distribution of abusive material. (so that people think you're not reviewing their files manually)
    • Add they thought OP was distributing the material since random bots tried to connect to FTP so they blocked it because of that.
    • And end with something about reviewing their TOS to prevent situations like this in the future and clarify they reserve the right to halt the service and demand ransom or sth.

    Give the man his files back, keep the provider tag and clear your reputation. It's THAT simple.

    Those 3 points (very good ones) would make the explanation bulletproof. This thread would have ended in page 1 itself.

  • @Francisco said:

    @labze said: The big question that you seem to avoid is why were you suspicious of this user to begin with

    "We saw a large spike of bandwidth usage right before bed time, every day."

    The gooning hour.

    Francisco

    Is the time zone also relevant here?

  • @barbaros said:
    OK lads, I will step away from computer, to watch some movies totally not hosted on @CharityHost_org servers and totally not in adult nature.

    When I am back tomorrow, I hope to see he is banned or his provider tag is removed, but a man can only wish.

    where did you host your shady videos. tell us!

  • @oloke said:

    @itachikonoha said:
    What could have CharityHost said....

    ".... We are new in the business and we wanted to make sure that no illegal activities occurs in our server. In order to do that, from time to time, as an extra measure, we perform random audits and OP's account got triggered in the process. We had no intention of snooping in to the contents uploaded by our customers. We didn't realize in the full extent of how it affects the customers in the subject of privacy and we deeply apologise for it. But rest assured, we have no intention of inspecting your files (unless required by legal authorities) and we respect the privacy of the customers.

    This is an extreme case where many outcomes came which we didn't consider before. We admit, this was an error on our part and as a token of good will, we are offering the concerned customer to continue the account if he wishes or we may unlock the account so that he can copy his contents to elsewhere.

    We promise, this won't repeat again."


    That's it. No drama and shows a human touch which will be appreciated by many.

    What ACTUALLY happened in reality tells a whole different story.

    I was actually about to write template for them. It is good but I would add some things.

    • Maybe mention something about automated periodic scans that only check filenames to prevent distribution of abusive material. (so that people think you're not reviewing their files manually)
    • Add they thought OP was distributing the material since random bots tried to connect to FTP so they blocked it.
    • And end with something about reviewing your TOS to prevent situations like this in the future and clarify they reserve the right to halt the service and demand ransom or sth.

    Give the man his files back, keep the provider tag and clear your reputation. It's THAT simple.

    They have 3 names.. snoopy, snoop dogg and grave digger

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • @Francisco said:

    @gbzret4d said: Any refugee offers for our porn collection?

    >

    Namecrane Lifetime 250G. $69.42.

    Francisco

    in europe? (c) soon?

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • @oloke said:

    @itachikonoha said:
    What could have CharityHost said....

    ".... We are new in the business and we wanted to make sure that no illegal activities occurs in our server. In order to do that, from time to time, as an extra measure, we perform random audits and OP's account got triggered in the process. We had no intention of snooping in to the contents uploaded by our customers. We didn't realize in the full extent of how it affects the customers in the subject of privacy and we deeply apologise for it. But rest assured, we have no intention of inspecting your files (unless required by legal authorities) and we respect the privacy of the customers.

    This is an extreme case where many outcomes came which we didn't consider before. We admit, this was an error on our part and as a token of good will, we are offering the concerned customer to continue the account if he wishes or we may unlock the account so that he can copy his contents to elsewhere.

    We promise, this won't repeat again."


    That's it. No drama and shows a human touch which will be appreciated by many.

    What ACTUALLY happened in reality tells a whole different story.

    I was actually about to write template for them. It is good but I would add some things.

    • Maybe mention something about automated periodic scans that only check filenames to prevent distribution of abusive material. (so that people think you're not reviewing their files manually)

    do most providers do this? still breach of privacy.

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    I am also worried @CharityHost_org has priced themselves out the the market, I am sure it was love for $10 long time

  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    @itachikonoha said:

    A disturbing trend that CH exhibited:

    Let's assume:

    1. OP put porn in the storage.
    2. Let's say CH was allowed to snoop.
    3. They suspended the account as it breaks ToS.

    But why you are asking for $25 for copying those "illegal" content? Does money trumps your ToS?

    Your name is "charity" host yet I can't see any integrity when you ask for $$ when your own ToS is broken by somebody.

    It seems like ToS is there to extort money rather than implementing policies written there.

    They also charge money to unblock email ports.

  • TrKTrK Member

    Glad I didn't bought anything from charityhost, from the name to the huge inflated price with discounts and now shredding privacy. I guess not encrypting your data is a dumb move but accessing user's data without any valid reason is just a dick move. Calling it with fancy name like "audit" doesn't prove anything.

  • @Decicus said: feet pics

    i am in!

  • @gbzret4d said:
    charityporn.org is registered.
    Should I redirect the domain to this thread?

    is .org cheap at spaceship?

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @wadhah said:

    I'm glad you are here,

    Can I store my gay porn collection in your russian servers? Since I can't store them with charityhost anymore

    No. In Russia porn strictly prohibited by law. Also every content about LGBT. Prohibited under penalty of criminal punishment.

    Thanked by 2oloke nghialele
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep
    edited March 2025

    @sh97 said:
    They also charge money to unblock email ports.

    I've seen some providers do that as well. Or you have to give them good justification why you need email port open. Probably to prevent people running email servers that are later hijacked and turned into spam bots.

    @cybertech said:
    do most providers do this? still breach of privacy.

    I'm not a provider. That's the most believable justification I could came up for CH. I hope no one does that, but still when storing private stuff on someone else's server I usually encrypt them.
    Even the most reputable providers could be snooping through your files.

  • @cybertech said:

    @zed said:
    Is this guy even a charity host? Or is that just a clever marketing name..

    gimmick obviously. which NGO would even let him spy on their data.

    greenpeace, oxfam, correctiv, omas gegen rechts, rote hilfe, friday for future, letzte generation ... https://img.welt.de/bin/antwort-auf-unionsanfragt_bn-255675058.pdf

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @rustelekom said:

    @wadhah said:

    I'm glad you are here,

    Can I store my gay porn collection in your russian servers? Since I can't store them with charityhost anymore

    No. In Russia porn strictly prohibited by law. Also every content about LGBT. Prohibited under penalty of criminal punishment.

    Oh, dont look at my 500gb files then, no reason. Thank you

    Thanked by 1iKeyZ
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep
    edited March 2025

    @sh97 said: They also charge money to unblock email ports.

    To be fair, it significantly reduces attractiveness for spammers and is much faster than doing customer background check and not as evasive as KYC. However I do prefer to ask customers for a commitment for their VPS, not charge extra for email. That way spammer will lose money if abusing, but legitimate user will see this as usual service renewal.

    UPD. My message is relevant only for 25/tcp block, I haven't noticed plural in "ports". IMHO other email ports must be available from the beginning, the only concern is 25/tcp.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Decicus said:

    Let's be real, if it was porn that was produced illegally, it'd be a different story than "terminated due to ToS breach, but hey you can get the content back for 25 USD". Come on.

    In my opinion, they are too greedy. On the other hand, it's part of church tradition to grant indulgence for a fee. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm an atheist myself. There are also administrative costs. Perhaps they felt that the client should pay for their work done manually.

    @rustelekom said: PS. For social media, checking user content has been the default action for many years.

    FTP storage is not social media.

    In fact, I'd say it's the complete opposite of social since it doesn't seem like this was shared with anyone at all (except the provider's sysadmin, I guess).

    But content is still user content. Perhaps you know that storing child pornography, for example, is a crime in many countries.

    That is complex problem.

    Thanked by 1bdspice
  • @cybertech said: weakling

    charity... says all!

  • couldn't the thread starter argue that he has a right to his own image/porn and is therefore obliged to hand over the data without having to pay 25$. because apparently the data (against payment of 25$) is still available.

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @rustelekom said:

    I can recall that a few years ago, in the Netherlands, the host was required by government to check the customer's image files by hash.

    Bullshit.

    No, that is not bullshit. I guess these requirements were related to this initiative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abuse_image_content_list.
    I lost part of my emails before 2019, so I can't provide an exact message. This happened at the Dutch data center.

  • _MS__MS_ Member

    @Francisco said:

    @gbzret4d said: Any refugee offers for our porn collection?

    >

    Namecrane Lifetime 250G. $69.42.

    Francisco

  • Weird if it's illegal why you can get back the files after payment?

  • @letstayfree said:
    Weird if it's illegal why you can get back the files after payment?

    conversely, this means that @CharityHost_org actively supports illegal behavior in return for payment. exciting when money flows in the process.

  • fatchanfatchan Member, Host Rep

    Unironically Google Drive would be safer to store your porn. They /would/ snoop on your files, but Google is smart and would 🤐 about it and just use the knowledge to sell more relevant porn advertisements that match your tastes.

  • iSkyiSky Member

    @wadhah said:

    @iSky said:

    @bdspice said:

    @MannDude said:
    @bdspice : Do you need $25 to get your data back?

    I'm sure we as a community will pitch in to help you get back to gooning.

    I'll donate $10 to the goon fund. It's for a good cause.

    i think provider like @CharityHost_org should not get 25$ extortion fee or any 7$ deal order from such popular community. we should boycott such shady provider.

    not about boycott but what @CharityHost_org did is illegal
    same as breaking into someone property without permission
    they own the building, but we rent it and they can't free break into our bathroom and peek us showering right ?

    lucky you open this thread and let us all know this super bad provider

    I like this, there is definitely an expectation of privacy when it comes to these situations.

    A reasonable user would expect privacy in their own cold storage ftp account. Just like a renter would expect privacy in their own bathroom.

    Charityhost has a privacy policy on their site but it does not mention access to user uploaded files. Which would make "reasonable expectation of privacy" rules apply.

    the other reason is maybe because the user is getting this service by free from provider giveaway
    that their "charity" not getting any money. then find a reason to kick out by doing peek on it.

    now i will doubt it even if the client did not store the "illegal p0rn", @CharityHost_org will still did something to force terminate the service. more scarry is the case if they put some prohibited content like ch!ld p0rn and then accusing the client storing it.

    this such privacy matter really serious issue to me. and also it will lowering any trust to other provider LET. Others for sure will be thinking it is all the providers at LET doing something like this ?

    LowEnd provider to me doesn't mean they can't be reliable for production. but because 1 provider such as @CharityHost_org it makes it look so bad on other LET provider.

    Thanked by 2wadhah Decicus
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited March 2025

    @beanman109 said:

    @bdspice said:

    @cybertech said:
    why dont you keep backup

    because its pron. download>watch>delete. no backup needed.

    simplicity at it's finest

    @muffin said:

    @bdspice said:

    @cybertech said:
    why dont you keep backup

    because its pron. download>watch>delete. no backup needed.

    he does not look back

    Above is my favorite comments from page 2

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