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Jar saves the day, MyW to continue (WAS MyW is closing doors)
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This is so dumb. Lifetime deals are always a gamble, and if you read more than one of MyW offer posts you could tell pretty early it was struggling (and so even more a gamble). This bickering is not properly entertaining, either raise the quality or stop.
LET shouldn't have allowed you to be a mod and a provider simultaneously - that's it. Regardless if they realized it or not, a mod is a "trusted" position in most communities. As a lay person, if you see a mod that runs a provider - you'd expect them to be the MOST trusted, given the dual role and possible conflicts of interest. Here? Not only did they allow it, they enabled it. I actually still find it humorous people blame you completely when LET should be seen as an accomplice at a minimum.
Once again, your problem, not any of your clients. If you told people "This is completely funded by my main gig and it could dissolve the second I'm fired" - I'm guessing you wouldn't have been so popular, but at least you would have been honest.
You're stupid and you're going to be a victim your entire life if you don't get educate yourself. IT WAS $15 DOLLARS. A GAMBLE. YOU LOST. MOVE ON!
Also, try not being a melodramatic pussy. Acting like its the end of the world over something Stevie Wonder could have seen coming makes you look bad. If you didn't start getting your ducks in a row the second Jar took over - you did it wrong. You should be thanking @jar for keeping it alive and giving it a gradual sunset, allowing you to migrate elsewhere with no stress or data loss. Instead you're here complaining.
@rcy026 what you say doesn't mean everyone is saying it and even if they would, doesnt mean they are right, and i understand your point, its just wrong... you say mike is to blame... but... but... but nothing, at least stop saying i'm to blame... and clearly you didn't understand my point or read what i wrote and keep doubling on the victim blaming...
@zed ... incase you didn't read i've said a couple times already, my issue with mike has nothing todo with the lifetime deals at all! If mike had kept the service running great, announced that it was a fail and we had like 2 months to move over at our time to another host i would shrug and move on, with no issues with him, like i said before he gave me a couple of good years of hosting, i got my money's worth. Just cause these 2 guys keep pushing that narrative is because they don't have anything else to point out beside blaming clients for business faults and that doesn't fit right with me.
@Petey_Long stop calling people names i said it more than enough times that my issue was never with the lifetime deals, so why keep pushing that narrative, that's why this name calling and victim blaming is ridiculous... i don't name call anyone because i respect ppl, even ones with wrong opinions...
ohh and what's the problem with complaining, i made my complain and that was it... these last posts are just me replying to all your nonsense..
Listen bitch, this was your complaint
Which is when I posted this:
You can play your self-victimization game all you want but at the end of the day, you, as the consumer, have a responsibility to do your own research into what you're purchasing. If people all the way back in 2021 were telling you "Hey, this is a shit sandwich, you get what you pay for" and you pay for that shit sandwich and then say it tastes like shit - that's YOUR problem. Trying to compare that to a scantily dressed woman getting raped just goes to show how delusional you truly are. Nobody forced you to do shit.
It’s fascinating to observe how some people show empathy toward specific providers, despite their behavior being quite similar to others who have faced harsher criticism.
Claiming that someone received value for their money doesn’t alter the reality that the provider in question oversold services and made misleading promises, fully aware of their actions.
Even more egregious LET allowed it to happen.
In reality, it was just a screw up all around
People thought $15 lifetimes weren't sustainable 4 years ago (users calling their shot like Babe Ruth, the same problems persisted for years) but yet people kept purchasing after the fact because hey, $15 and it works for a few months, got my money's worth.
Then instead of LET asking questions like "Hey man, things cool? Not really a good look to have a non-responsive host with persistent issues on staff, especially when we have other shared providers here that are competing against you"
Then with the provider knowingly putting himself underwater, continued for a few more years until the jig was completely up.
This should have never been allowed to happen in the first place..but here we are.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing the numbers. In comparison ZAP Hosting, where I have 2 lifetime vps, share their numbers transparently on their website. It currently (today) reads:
So Lifetime servers are kind of 1/5 of all servers (if "active servers" includes LT). Sounds like a more "healthy" rate. Here's to hoping this keeps working out as I and some other LE users have servers there
If those numbers aren't cooked in any way, that's some pretty amazing transparency. Good on them! I believe @silicomnet had mentioned a similar ratio (with slightly more stringent policy - 5 locations vs all locations)
You're not wrong and while it won't make you popular here, you're one of the few to highlight he was also a mod.
The continuation despite everything is for people to interpret how they wish but I think we are in agreement.
Kinda makes you wonder how many other shared providers lost a fair amount of monthly revenue because a mod was able to provide a "lifetime" deal in an unsustainable way. Doesn't seem very fair to have to pay $200 and then find out that a mod, of all people, is actually a competitor and he's got a price you can't touch (because you're trying to handle your business responsibly) and despite the years-long criticisms from the members here, continued to operate with impunity, as a staff member, no less. Big hosts would be able to pull off lifetime deals but little guys, like this community is supposed to be all about, wouldn't have that same flexibility. Likely operating on razor thin margins until they get a recurring client base.
Everyone should just be aware anyone here with a provider tag is not much more than "Pay $200 and pass go" situation and you ultimately need to make the decision yourself on whether or not you can afford to gamble or not. If you can't, go with something big tech. If you can, it's up to the client to figure out whether or not said provider is worth their salt. I'll happily recommend providers I have great experiences with because they deserve the praise and the business - but I wouldn't expect anyone to hear me recommend something and immediately buy it because I'd much prefer them to use my recommendation as a jumping off point for their research - not just a snap decision because some guy on the internet said it was good. Just don't limit your research to LET - do an actual internet search - get a general consensus outside of how they're perceived here. LET has a financial incentive to keep things positive for the people paying for a provider tag each year - the rest of the internet doesn't. Just keep that in mind the next time you see a "crazy good deal" because it's only a good deal if it's handled by a responsible provider who know their limits.
Of course no way to know if the numbers are cooked, but they've been updated on their website for a while the past few months and I really like the "transparency".
The one thing that's for certain is they've been in business for 15 years, so whatever's going on, they've at least got the financial part right. From the past, I remember reading a lot of "avoid at all costs" threads on Reddit and their Trustpilot reviews seem botted hard. The people who left bad reviews all went to great length to explain their experiences and the people who did 5 stars have 3-5 word answers like "yes server is good", 1 review.
I'm not blaming you, I'm calling you stupid! There is a big difference, go look it up in a dictionary.
And yes, everyone says the same thing, you are just not getting it.
My company has been in the business for over 9 years. The parent company, an Ltd. I've already explained the plans and what went wrong. I understand people just want to take the opportunity to blame me and I'll let it keep going, although, I'm done with this thread. If there's people unable to understand my point of view and instead making assumptions, there isn't much I can do. MyW was in the business for years. It was not a fly by night operation, nor it was living off lifetimes only.
And they say golf is an expensive hobby!
@Arkas changes title to MyW is closing jars.
I think @jar, If and when he so chooses, can add a lot more details and info regarding the dynamics and evolution of this thread.
Like what?
A shutdown date was announced here and a quote from the email is here
It may not have been a swift fly by night operation, but it sure seemed like a robbing peter to pay paul situation, which doesn't make you any more legitimate.
When you knew you were in over your head, you should have done right by your clients, said
"Hey guys, as you know, I'm limited in my resources and have a life outside of LET. Lately I've come to terms with a harsh reality but since the community has been so good to me, I want to give advanced notice that I'm going to have to wind down the company.
All customer data will need to be migrated by X date (with a reasonable time frame) and after that point, the data was be destroyed irrevocably as I will no longer have the finances to keep the business afloat.
I sincerely apologize for my lack of financial transparency but I'd rather be shamed here than have all of the people who have trusted me over the years to lose all of data or cause undue stress to my clients by forcing a refugee-like situation from my service. SInce this is a community and we shouldn't leave each other hanging, here is a full list of shared hosting providers on LET that may be able to help you in acquiring your new home.
Instead it's everyone else's fault for "not being able to understand your point of view and making assumptions" - boo fucking hoo. Let my pull out the world's smallest violin so you can continue being misunderstood with a proper soundtrack.
You had every chance in the world to stop signups, get your shit in order and then open signups again after you got your house in order. What'd you do? You ran promos like a goddamn maniac. You even had the gall to run a promo at the beginning of September 2024 and by the end of September 2024, you were posting your shutdown notice. You have absolutely zero credibility and you should be fucking ashamed of yourself for doing what you did and fucking over the clients you've amassed over your "over 9 years." What a loyal guy! As soon as it's officially shut down, I'd make the strong assumption people aren't going to want to see much of you around here.
If you losing your job was the reason MyW closed, MyW shouldn't have been allowed to operate to begin with. That just means you were subsidizing your own stupidity and putting on a dog and pony show for the peanut gallery here.
Then, as if that wasn't shameless enough, you go onto post (2) threads asking for work
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/198230/looking-for-a-job-senior-system-administrator-devops-customer-support
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/201034/looking-for-sysadmin-devops-tasks
"Yeah, let's hire that guy who severely mismanaged his own company, takes zero self-responsibility for anything and then uses "I'm a single father with two kids" in the post. Yeah - fuck logic, let's just roll the dice with this guy purely based on emotion - said absolutely nobody.
Then, if all of that shit wasn't enough - you had the audacity to complain about Oplink in their sales thread about not offering a recurring discount, buy it anyways, and then act put out that you made the purchase.
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4345923#Comment_4345923
You're fucked up six ways from Sunday bro. No one should feel sorry for you and you should man the fuck up for your kids sake so they don't have such a weak father figure. Complaining about people "low balling" you on job offers - get the fuck over yourself dude. You gotta do whatever it takes when you have kids. I'd even begin to question if you ex-wife doesn't have sole custody given your lack of responsibility and your "I'm a single father" without saying "My kids live with me" is just enough to give you sympathy, but without completely lying through your teeth. Gotta rationalize that deceit!
It's not worth the effort. We're beating a dead horse. Shit's over, Mike fucked up, Jar bailed him out and this saga is finally going to be complete.
Are you that guy that takes his dog or cat when it had an accident and shoves it face into it
Are you the kid who's parents framed all of their participation ribbons and told you winning isn't everything in life?
Everyone here coddled this situation for years, to the point where Mike became straight up shameless. You don't support failure, you support success. Every other host who's deadpooled was ran off by the angry mobs but yet, why was he different? Oh, because of Jar. That's the ONLY reason. When he got bailed out, Mike went on hanging out here like everything was cool. It wasn't.
How can you criticize a provider for their promo when your venture just went tits up? How many single dads have any sort of "extra" money when they have to support two kids and don't have a job? Why isn't he taking one of those "lowball" offers just to get some steady income and saving instead of buying shit he doesn't even want? Or better yet, why was nobody asking those questions?
It's because people here are timid, non-confrontational and/or they don't want to risk some sort of negative consequences (or their brand) and that's cool - but I'm not going to apologize for giving him a reality check.
Just wondering, is there any plan to launch a similar project? Since this one has been running for 5 years, why not offer a 2 or 3-year package instead of a lifetime deal?
wondering how some people have so much of free time that they argue endlessly on a company closure thread!
Yeah, they've been a German Gameserver host since I was a kid more than 10 years ago. Granted they've had quite the shitty reputation back then and still are not usually considered a "premium" provider, I'm happy with their offer and service. Support on Discord/Chat/Ticket is also quite fast.
This is the first and last time I'll tell you this. Don't bring my kids to this conversation.
I'm an excellent father with shared custody, and that's not related to MyW at all.
"You gotta do whatever it takes when you have kids. I'd even begin to question if you ex-wife doesn't have sole custody given your lack of responsibility"
You're entering my personal life. I've reported you just so you know. Don't fucking do that.
Never, but never question me as a father.
People, attacks on other's personal lives is off the table. Let's keep it civil and NOT bring people's families into this, that is crossing a line.
Absolutely right. However lifetime were offered on occasions like marriage and child birth. Many got emotional and helped. The same emotions now feel betrayed. It is expected for people to blow up as they feel bamboozled.
This is not to say I agree with an offensive language, I merely understand the reactions somewhat, because we're all humans after all - emotional creatures.
I think that this thread is no longer serving a useful purpose
The crucial point to retain is that MyW will be permanently closing on July 1, 2025
If you haven't yet migrated your data/sites elsewhere, you have three months to do so
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