EasyVM Deadpools, Hardware & IPs Sold To PureVoltage

allthemtings · March 2025

@Blembim said:

@emgh said:

@Blembim said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

the structure of this sentense is certified cute lol

Yes but the meaning is rude and hopefully bannable.

The "direct" translate is rude but for local its like 2 girls kissing shitting each others lol

wtf my google translate is broken then

ethanblake87 · March 2025

@emgh said:

@barbaros said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

Flagged for not being english

Did you know I’m going there btw

Really? You never mentioned that before.

For a month btw

Glad to see that you have finally decided to visit your neighboring country, Norway. Have a nice vacation!!

emgh · March 2025

@ethanblake87 said:

@emgh said:

@barbaros said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

Flagged for not being english

Did you know I’m going there btw

Really? You never mentioned that before.

For a month btw

Glad to see that you have finally decided to visit your neighboring country, Norway. Have a nice vacation!!

Cheaper to fly to thailand compared to a day in Norway

allthemtings · March 2025

@emgh said:

@Blembim said:

@emgh said:

@Blembim said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

the structure of this sentense is certified cute lol

Yes but the meaning is rude and hopefully bannable.

The "direct" translate is rude but for local its like 2 girls kissing shitting each others lol

I don’t trust this

hes probably trying to hentai/weeb us..dont fall for it

emgh · March 2025

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Blembim said:

@emgh said:

@Blembim said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

the structure of this sentense is certified cute lol

Yes but the meaning is rude and hopefully bannable.

The "direct" translate is rude but for local its like 2 girls kissing shitting each others lol

I don’t trust this

hes probably trying to hentai/weeb us..dont fall for it

Shottt oppppp

emgh · March 2025

Mom @allthemtings is mocking me again

Blembim · March 2025

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Blembim said:

@emgh said:

@Blembim said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

the structure of this sentense is certified cute lol

Yes but the meaning is rude and hopefully bannable.

The "direct" translate is rude but for local its like 2 girls kissing shitting each others lol

I don’t trust this

hes probably trying to hentai/weeb us..dont fall for it

Bruh นังตัวเล็ก

allthemtings · March 2025

@emgh said:
Mom @allthemtings is mocking me again

wadhah · March 2025

@Blembim said:

@emgh said:

@Blembim said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

the structure of this sentense is certified cute lol

Yes but the meaning is rude and hopefully bannable.

The "direct" translate is rude but for local its like 2 girls kissing shitting each others lol

2 girls doing what now?

barbaros · March 2025

@emgh said:
Mom @allthemtings is mocking me again

This is killing.

emgh · March 2025

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:
Mom @allthemtings is mocking me again

Looks photoshopped to me

allthemtings · March 2025

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:
Mom @allthemtings is mocking me again

Looks photoshopped to me

wadhah · March 2025

I wonder where all those low level undersirables went honestly

MannDude · March 2025

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

Flagged for not being english

Did you know I’m going there btw

@crunchbits we've got another one.

allthemtings · March 2025

I’ll swiftly leave this thread and let you gentlemen continue your debate

regards

emgh · March 2025

@MannDude said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

Flagged for not being english

Did you know I’m going there btw

@crunchbits we've got another one.

Lmao no

Dude tried to get me to go

And then booked a flight the day after I go home because ”I’m so busy rn”

You coming though?

MannDude · March 2025

@emgh said:

@MannDude said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

Flagged for not being english

Did you know I’m going there btw

@crunchbits we've got another one.

Lmao no

Dude tried to get me to go

And then booked a flight the day after I go home because ”I’m so busy rn”

You coming though?

I left the USA a year ago. 555

emgh · March 2025

@MannDude said:

@emgh said:

@MannDude said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

Flagged for not being english

Did you know I’m going there btw

@crunchbits we've got another one.

Lmao no

Dude tried to get me to go

And then booked a flight the day after I go home because ”I’m so busy rn”

You coming though?

I left the USA a year ago. 555

Bang cock?

Blembim · March 2025

@emgh said:

@MannDude said:

@emgh said:

@MannDude said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

Flagged for not being english

Did you know I’m going there btw

@crunchbits we've got another one.

Lmao no

Dude tried to get me to go

And then booked a flight the day after I go home because ”I’m so busy rn”

You coming though?

I left the USA a year ago. 555

Bang cock?

Wrong, its Krung Thep Maha Nakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Ayuthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udomratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Piman Awatan Sathit Sakkathattiya Witsanukam Prasit

wadhah · March 2025

I invite all EasyVM refugees to my ai powered actually african summerhost when I launch in the upcoming months.

I will only accept a quite crowd, of high value, desirable customers.

Loud crowds of low value, undesirable customers will never be allowed.

HostDoc · March 2025

@rcy026 said:

@HostDoc said:
Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

If "full price" was reasonable and the provider was selling something I want, absolutely.

I might be a bit different but personally I actively avoid providers with no history that shows up with promotional offers that are clearly unsustainable. It's simple math for me: a brand new provider that sells something that he makes zero profit on, sometimes not even covering his own costs, is not going to be around for long. It's impossible, it's just not happening. An established provider with a big enough user base that pays full price might be able to do limited promotions like that from time to time and still absorb the costs, but a brand new one with no previous customers? No.

I'm not trying to blame the users, the responsibility is completely with the provider, but sometimes it's just so obvious where the saying "a fool and his money are soon parted" came from.

Exactly my point!

Thank you for completing the 360.

So, an unestablished new provider selling sustainably with no promotional offers with inevitably fail also.

They need early promotions which have been calculated and planned for to increase their exposure.
What might be an unreasonable price to you will seem reasonable with some sort of promotion. Using the service and being happy with it will make you stay when the provider decides to increase the price by removing the promotional offer so their plans are once again sustainable.

With proper planning, a new company can also soak up their early promotions.

I think this off-topic chat has derailed this thread enough now. Back to PV and EasyVM.

barbaros · March 2025

@wadhah said:
I invite all EasyVM refugees to my ai powered actually african summerhost when I launch in the upcoming months.

I will only accept a quite crowd, of high value, desirable customers.

Loud crowds of low value, undesirable customers will never be allowed.

Is it OK if I buy your hardware and IPs when your summer host deadpools? And as charity work I will keep all the customer data.

ethanblake87 · March 2025

@emgh said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@emgh said:

@barbaros said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

หุบปากซะ นังตัวเล็ก

Flagged for not being english

Did you know I’m going there btw

Really? You never mentioned that before.

For a month btw

Glad to see that you have finally decided to visit your neighboring country, Norway. Have a nice vacation!!

Cheaper to fly to thailand compared to a day in Norway

so in about a month we will have the first ladyboy in Denmark?

wadhah · March 2025

@barbaros said:

@wadhah said:
I invite all EasyVM refugees to my ai powered actually african summerhost when I launch in the upcoming months.

I will only accept a quite crowd, of high value, desirable customers.

Loud crowds of low value, undesirable customers will never be allowed.

Is it OK if I buy your hardware and IPs when your summer host deadpools?

Of course. You are a quite crowd of high value desirable customer, i'll do anything for my customers... And I mean anything (sexual favors wink wink nudge nudge)

And as charity work I will keep all the customer data.

No sorry all of my user data will be posted on pastebin daily.

No privacy law violations if there's no privacy at all.

emgh · March 2025

@ethanblake87 said:

@emgh said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@emgh said:

@barbaros said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@allthemtings said:

@emgh said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@Nyr said:

@HostDoc said:

@ethanblake87 said:

@HostDoc said:
There will be hundreds if not thousands of fraudulent chargebacks now that the cat is out of the bag that billing is a mess but the service will continue.

@ethanblake87 said:

@MikePT said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@MichaelCee said:

@wdmg said: The dirty part is EasyVM selling the hardware and IPs without the clients attached. That’s some scummy shit without a doubt.

That's the kicker. The customers not being attached contractually but the data is included anyway. I.E EasyVM leaked customer data to another company. I think more clarification is needed.

Our agreement covered the IPs and hardware owned by EasyVM. When our staff discovered that the customer's hosted data was being discarded, we requested the WHMCS details to ensure clients could recover their hosted data. We believed that most customers would appreciate having their data restored and their services honored.

We are committed to keeping your personal information safe. However, if you do not wish for your data to be stored on our systems, please let us know, and we will delete the associated services and information.

Thank you for doing this. Ignore those who are attacking you about data protection liability blablabla. You're doing them a favor, it's not your fault.

Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

You are on LET.
It seems a huge expectation here is waiting for the inevitable deadpool. Why so hostile when expectations are met?

@SirFoxy said:

@MichaelCee said:

@ethanblake87 said:
Weren't you also the rat who sold air and left the sinking ship??

Not exactly comparable. Mike at least made an announcement of closure and didn't sell off servers with customer data secretly hidden onboard without any plans to even tell anybody..

He used his kids and office supplies as an excuse to sell lifetime offers then deadpooled. A little birdy told me the ratio was something like 95% lifetime customers to 5% recurring customers. The worst part is he was a moderator here at the time.

And for the record it’s the exact same situation except Mike owned no gear or IPs. There was nothing to buy, @jar was just providing absolute charity.

Presidents have done worse.
Trusted school teachers have done worse.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill!

Are you talking about your own experience?
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hostdoc.co.uk

Sure, if that is what you want to use as a guiding example.

Life happens! This is LowEndTalk, where providers are coerced to provide unsustainable deals ($5,$7). It is possible to still see a profit but at the sacrifice of employing staff, improving the infrastructure etc.
Just a glance on bgp.tools tells a lot about the direction this may have headed for EasyVM.

To me, there is a difference between deadpooling with intent and deadpooling due to mismanagement.

Rather than calling someone a rat because they failed, manage your expectation if it does happen.

The responsibility when creating clearly unsustainable deals lies entirely on the provider. Customers with common sense will avoid such deals, but the provider is at fault for refusing to use a calculator.

No need to talk about coercion (lol) trying to make excuses and get some sympathy. Plenty of decent providers are apparently able to avoid such coercion you talk about.

Indeed! I fully agree.

Okay, if a new provider came here today with zero history and no promotional offers, would you purchase a service at full price?

Unsustainable offers would not make me purchase either. Quite the opposite actually.

But I understand that's what a majority of providers here do, and what is encouraged by a loud crowd of low value, undesirable customers.

@barbaros @allthemtings @beanman109 @wadhah do you guys have any idea who might be part of this loud crowd wanting cheap deals

Yeah, you pal

I fit the cheap deals part but you fit the low value part so in a way together we’re a perfect match

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Did you know I’m going there btw

Really? You never mentioned that before.

For a month btw

Glad to see that you have finally decided to visit your neighboring country, Norway. Have a nice vacation!!

Cheaper to fly to thailand compared to a day in Norway

so in about a month we will have the first ladyboy in Denmark?

🧌

Maelstrom36 · March 2025

EasyVM joining PureVoltage is fake news. The title needs to change. It should be made clear that EasyVM deapooled.

Ian_Dot_Tech · March 2025

@Maelstrom36 said:
EasyVM joining PureVoltage is fake news. The title needs to change. It should be made clear that EasyVM deapooled.

PureVoltage management has asked LET to change it as it does not accurately describe the events which transpired.

wdmg · March 2025

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@Maelstrom36 said:
EasyVM joining PureVoltage is fake news. The title needs to change. It should be made clear that EasyVM deapooled.

PureVoltage management has asked LET to change it as it does not accurately describe the events which transpired.

"EasyVM attempted to scam PureVoltage and EasyVM clients, but PureVoltage fixed it all despite not having to."

MichaelCee · March 2025

Can we please stop sub-quoting every reply.. I have 35 notifications saying I was mentioned.

Ian_Dot_Tech · March 2025

@wdmg said:

@Ian_Dot_Tech said:

@Maelstrom36 said:
EasyVM joining PureVoltage is fake news. The title needs to change. It should be made clear that EasyVM deapooled.

PureVoltage management has asked LET to change it as it does not accurately describe the events which transpired.

"EasyVM attempted to scam PureVoltage and EasyVM clients, but PureVoltage fixed it all despite not having to."

I wouldn't exactly say scam, at the end of the day everything we paid for we got/working to get. I have no intention to cause drama. I would just change it to "Lets Talk | EasyVM" or something just simple.

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