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@elliotc
In my opinion, the right thing would have been to issue a warning and un-suspend the vps.
PS
is it a storage vps? Pls confirm.
if so, the cpu resource allocation is far more strict as compared to regular vps.
I don't know what's worse
Virmach's terrible service, or the fact people still give them money for worthless VPSes
Edit: I don't mean the OP or customers for signing up in the first place, I mean the people commenting about how terrible they are, but they still have at least 1 VPS with them lol
Can u dispute the payment? If u can then dispute the shit out of it.
Not if the cpu usage is beyond AUP limits in terms and conditions.
One of the highly rated provider has (max 10 minutes 100% cpu usage in 24 hour period) in terms and conditions.
Thank you for reminding our community every once in a while that Virmass is still shit
My question to everyone:
How many LET providers (from top 10) will allow NextCloud and 40 min 100% cpu usage for the storage vps with
1 vCore / 1.5GB RAM / 500GB HDD
I wonder if virmach is putting active/respected forum chatters on isolated upgraded nodes? That would explain why they have a very different experience than most other people?
It would be a diabolical although a very smart business move honestly.
How would they? They don't do that "post your order number" bullshit like some hosts here do, so I don't know how they'd link accounts and LE* users.
Why are people so interested in Nextcloud? Isn't it like some huge bloaty system? Like Joomla of CMS world.
We switched to Seafile that consumes less resources, but their mobile app is worse than Nextcloud.
Again, feel free to kick me out. I am not even hiding I fucked up something or ask for unsuspend.
What I am suing is always his blackmail.
Who> @dev_vps said:
A host has all measure to realocate Or warna or reduce vcpu allocation or set max cap. Virmach does not want any such thing. Their survival was purely on LET earlier, later due to negative feedback, seems like LET ownership try to keep> @dev_vps said:
Assume the vpses idle ie 0 to 1 % CPU for months and year by LET community, there must be burstable load, sometime? I don't side either host or OP. But host could still has upper hand to set cpu bound limit if a VPS use max CPU, some application, some flow, some combinations may trigger higher usage.
Personally I don't like Virmach we did spent more than 200 usd plus on them, when they send a notice for our PostgreSQL consuming more CPU, which we deployed just a day before their notice, while our 200 dollar worth VPSes were idle for months long. Virmach was trash. We moved to netcup, we even deployed much large intensive CPU and IO apps over Hetzner and netcup. No one complains. Virmach is pure trash if you really want to use the CPU. Use for VPN, or for light or no workload. Or simply donate for Virmach for their staff/owner well being, I don't really like this line while writing, but I remember when we stand ashamed in front of client for using Virmach.
Netcup or hetzner you can't beat them with profesionlism. OVH we have used long back, yet to start again.
If you're spending that much money, why not get a couple of dedis from a decent company instead? You'd get better value for money and no restrictions on what you can do with the CPU (except crypto mining).
Dedi, we are afraid of failure, even if one small component failed, say a ram module, or one of the network interface, the whole system become inaccessible. With hetzner cloud, we don't see much down time issue, mostly they move the VM to next machine if there is a failure. Virmach was our stupid mistake, we thought Virmach was a big hosting company. Nowadays I hang with German providers for personal hobby projects. For customer projects, we like Hetzner or Netcup.
Did @yoursunny hack your account?
I know he does push ups, not sure about hacks 😊 . We did hacked once for ransomwhere with our test machine on virmach, one of our team member left PG hba vulnerable, next day we found one table in our db, with contact details of hacker and money to be paid. We reformatted the system. Our mistake, not virmach one.
Virmach, one problem was, very difficult to measure CPU all time, it is not even useful for test workload. There must be consideration for burst, or limit cpu usage by them. Now we have better metric systems Prometheus, Grafana, etc. 5-6 years back, we were not into any metric systems, ignorant in many aspect on devops tool chain
You can get 3-4 pretty decent Hetzner dedis for $200 though. Even if one goes down temporarily, you still have the others, and Hetzner fix stuff pretty quickly or so I hear. My dedi has over 2 years uptime since it was last rebooted.
Example price: i9-9900k 128GB RAM, 2TB NVMe, 16 thread - €54/m
Yes, we went to the account, ran one less to go script to get rid of a random pesky little file, and installed cpuminer.
We needed about 7 systems for each customers, at least 3 replicas each, distributed works like batch, stream analytics, DB, zookeeper, etc. For pilot testing also, we have to self fund, show demo to customer, let the instances run for at least 3 months. If we were lucky, customer ready to pay, then good or we have to bear cost.
Budget issue, Hetzner cloud VPS damn cheap, recently they add up pricing, we don't pay tax being outside EU. dedis are awesome, we were not skilles into proxmax Or containers that point in time 2019 period. We have to provision each system, a lot of manual work, we were new for all these tools and setups.
We bought few VPSes from virmach with excitement over Black Friday offer, I think 2018-2019 pre covid, did provision for a trial at customer factory, after 400 km drive, back to home, database VPS was suspended by Virmach.
We were using Digital Ocean and Linode, sometime slicehost, there were solid but expensive host, with that understanding, we took Virmach 2018 or 2019 for trial accounts, back fired very soon, total foolishness. But LET helpful to discover Hetzner and netcup.
I neither trust LEB Or LET owners nowadays. The community is balanced.
It's time to develop multi-tenant app so that you only need 7×3 servers regardless of how many customers are there.
We never worry about customer not paying.
When they ask for the second project, they have to pay the invoice for the first project, or the second project won't start.
That was in 2019, later we moved into LXC, then docker, docker swarm, finally settled with Kubernetes.
For industrial IoT application, sales cycle too long, 6 months or 9 months.
For anyone, don't trust Virmach for customer project if you are uncertain about CPU bound workload. We have plenty of hosts around LET, support those hosts who care you.
Windows 11 Enterprise OS with SQL Server database server running on that vps
Have you tried allowing it to beat the shit out of it's swap and cpu for an hour?
I love running scripts with sudo privileges. These pesky files on my computer were always a pain in my bum. What a time to be alive.
Running Debian 12.9 version
it is $18 / year VPS .... not the $5/month one and should be used accordingly
Using VPS for students database projects
I try to keep average cpu utilization around 20%
Possibly students don't run queries much or you don't have enough data, or queeies are more IO bound rather CPU bound. Load up few gigabytes data, allow joins, sorting, analytical quries with group by, add up custom aggregators etc. 😊 then run parellel queires.
This is for entry to mid level advanced SQL queries. Typical database size is upto 1 GB with focus on using advanced concepts such as ROW_NUMBER() optimizations
Do you really expect $18/year VPS to use for such size database? I have VDS for that purpose. And never had any problems
Let me share this -
When I got 1 TB storage VPS in Nov 2023, I reached out to the provider and explained my use case and ask if he is ok if I use Windows Server 2022 OS on it.
He told me clearly as long as my average cpu utilization is below 30% in 24-hour period, he is okay with it. And I am running Windows Server 2022 OS on that storage vps and never got any issues.
It may be a good idea to reach out to provider and explain the use case and possible resource utilization.
Just my 1.95 cents