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Virmach, not recommended for 2025

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  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    @Blembim said:

    @admax said:
    Be cautious when using VIR*** to avoid prolonged CPU bursts and long periods of high-speed memory read/write operations. :joy: LOL!

    U have to pay 40$ to convince me :D

    I searched through my wallet, but there was no $40. Well, I guess I have to give up this service! So, VirM***'s default explanation: The user abused the rented service, leading to the termination of the machine that cost the user a few to several dozen dollars, while the user lost hundreds of billions of dollars worth of precious time. :p This is a joke, luckily I only run some low-resource software on it and have switched all logins to SSH keys. o:)

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  • Thanks for sharing. People like you help many others here save our hard earned money from buying from Virmach (which I almost did). Good job!

    Thanked by 3admax Blembim satorik
  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    @truemagic said:
    Thanks for sharing. People like you help many others here save our hard earned money from buying from Virmach (which I almost did). Good job!

    Correct!

  • Pay $40.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @elliotc said:

    @Blembim said:
    Unlikely u wont get any response from virmache here, OGF is just around the corner.

    Anyways, Virmached

    Don't expect any response, and even if he unsuspended it, I won't use it. He had exhausted all trust over the years.
    but I feel like I have the responsibility to warn others.

    Its really a hit/miss with virmache.

    Have been a customer for years. Been always treated fairly. They even handle support tickets within reasonable time for me.

    About the same experience here.

    Not using it for anything resources heavy which helps I guess and only need minor support for issues on their side.

    I use it as a NS slave. About 350 MB (of only 512) free. But I'm running a trimmed down minimal BSD.

    Anyway, use them and expect:

    • loads of ip renumbering
    • downtime, have a plan in order.
    • unfriendly support, quite passive aggressive.

    They have some offers you won't find anywhere else but if you keep an eye out you can mostly get the same specs from better hosts these days.

    Inertia. I know that I can get similarly low-priced VPS elsewhere and even do have some, but my experience with @VirMach was and is surprisingly OK, modulo the unnerving IP changes. So, no real reason to leave them so far.

  • @Rubben said:

    @Void said:
    lol 😂 Just pay the $40 and maybe also give him a shoulder massage and beg for lifting the suspension because you seem not only stupid enough to pay Virmache, but you trusted them enough to run a Nextcloud instance. Folks here wouldn’t trust Virmache to run even apt update since 2020 or so.

    Thank you kind sir for your comment.

    You have been awarded with the "most valued customar 2025" badge of honors for your legendary comment.

  • @Rubben said:

    @Rubben said:

    @Void said:
    lol 😂 Just pay the $40 and maybe also give him a shoulder massage and beg for lifting the suspension because you seem not only stupid enough to pay Virmache, but you trusted them enough to run a Nextcloud instance. Folks here wouldn’t trust Virmache to run even apt update since 2020 or so.

    Thank you kind sir for your comment.

    You have been awarded with the "most valued customar 2025" badge of honors for your legendary comment.

    no u

  • Lol when was virmach recommended anyway? :D

  • @Void said:
    lol 😂 Just pay the $40 and maybe also give him a shoulder massage and beg for lifting the suspension because you seem not only stupid enough to pay Virmache, but you trusted them enough to run a Nextcloud instance. Folks here wouldn’t trust Virmache to run even apt update since 2020 or so.

    The apt upgrade on my Virmach Debian 11 VPS broke things and required a OS reinstall.

    Thanked by 1Whoa
  • @ethanblake87 said:
    Lol when was virmach recommended anyway? :D

    Like 4 years ago when they had a cult like following like Hosthatch does now

    Thanked by 2Blembim jcn50
  • Virmach could fix all downtime issues if he spent on it instead of creating whmcs promocodes that require a PhD degree to understand , but where is the fun in that

    Thanked by 1emengweb
  • As some would like to call them Virm(ache) 😂

  • @Rubben said:

    @ethanblake87 said:
    Lol when was virmach recommended anyway? :D

    Like 4 years ago when they had a cult like following like Hosthatch does now

    @codelock said:
    Virmach could fix all downtime issues if he spent on it instead of creating whmcs promocodes that require a PhD degree to understand , but where is the fun in that

    The Hannukah Mystery Box promotion was the epitome of Virmach insanity.

    Thanked by 3ralf JohnnySac jcn50
  • @codelock said:
    Virmach could fix all downtime issues if he spent on it instead of creating whmcs promocodes that require a PhD degree to understand , but where is the fun in that

    He has 10 years in business, trying to automate things as much as possible and reduce costs.

    What Virmach does not understand is that many times his scripts do not work, generating the verb "virmached" precisely because he becomes active at Black Friday and New Year events, then slowly quality of service fades away until next big events - when history repeats with more flash sales. A service can stay down for months, with ticket opened and with provider getting no notification until some payment is done for support priority.

    Such provider can not be recommended for production or anything serious. However, their services are somewhat usable for very light development, as long as the running applications don't trigger some limitation for a few minutes, or as long something wrong does not happen with the server not notifying the provider automatically.

    If a server goes down, good luck trying to fix it. You're better off cancelling the service and wait for the next flash sale to order a new one. The time wasted on support tickets and on waiting for a fix is just not worth it, not even with paid premium support.

  • donlidonli Member
    edited January 2025

    @default said:

    @codelock said:
    Virmach could fix all downtime issues if he spent on it instead of creating whmcs promocodes that require a PhD degree to understand , but where is the fun in that

    He has 10 years in business, trying to automate things as much as possible and reduce costs.

    What Virmach does not understand is that many times his scripts do not work, generating the verb "virmached" precisely because he becomes active at Black Friday and New Year events, then slowly quality of service fades away until next big events - when history repeats with more flash sales. A service can stay down for months, with ticket opened and with provider getting no notification until some payment is done for support priority.

    Such provider can not be recommended for production or anything serious. However, their services are somewhat usable for very light development, as long as the running applications don't trigger some limitation for a few minutes, or as long something wrong does not happen with the server not notifying the provider automatically.

    If a server goes down, good luck trying to fix it. You're better off cancelling the service and wait for the next flash sale to order a new one. The time wasted on support tickets and on waiting for a fix is just not worth it, not even with paid premium support.

    The market has changed and now people can get $7/year 1cpu 1GB ram VPSs from more providers.

  • @donli said:

    The market has changed and now people can get $7/year 1cpu 1GB ram VPSs from more providers.

    $8.69 / year

    Processor  : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 3799.976 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 1.4 GiB
    Swap       : 512.0 MiB
    Disk       : 58.5 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    
  • @ethanblake87 said:
    Lol when was virmach recommended anyway? :D

    There are still many virmache shills that would recommend it, like “muh server works fine, muh server costs only 7 virmasskisses so everything is fine” and so on.

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  • indiankeshindiankesh Member
    edited January 2025

    We have doubled your ache.
    Thanks for doing business with Virmach. 😂

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited January 2025

    @Void said:

    There are still many virmache shills that would recommend it, like “muh server works fine, muh server costs only 7 virmasskisses so everything is fine” and so on.

    I don't recommend it. (Feel free to check my posts)

    Having said that, if it is working fine for me, then what else I am supposed to say about its performance.

    ps -- just posted the YABS for $8.69 vps
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4265976/#Comment_4265976

    Thanked by 2admax skorous
  • virmach is such a shitty hoster and this answer are hilarious...hilarious fucked up

    Thanked by 2Rubben Void
  • @dev_vps said:

    @Void said:

    There are still many virmache shills that would recommend it, like “muh server works fine, muh server costs only 7 virmasskisses so everything is fine” and so on.

    I don't recommend it. (Feel free to check my posts)

    Having said that, if it is working fine for me, then what else I am supposed to say about its performance.

    ps -- just posted the YABS for $8.69 vps
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4265976/#Comment_4265976

    Oh I didn’t mean you in particular though

  • @dev_vps said:

    @Void said:

    There are still many virmache shills that would recommend it, like “muh server works fine, muh server costs only 7 virmasskisses so everything is fine” and so on.

    I don't recommend it. (Feel free to check my posts)

    Having said that, if it is working fine for me, then what else I am supposed to say about its performance.

    ps -- just posted the YABS for $8.69 vps
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4265976/#Comment_4265976

    I'd say enjoy using it, but I guess you can't besides running apt update?

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited January 2025

    @Rubben said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Void said:

    There are still many virmache shills that would recommend it, like “muh server works fine, muh server costs only 7 virmasskisses so everything is fine” and so on.

    I don't recommend it. (Feel free to check my posts)

    Having said that, if it is working fine for me, then what else I am supposed to say about its performance.

    ps -- just posted the YABS for $8.69 vps
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4265976/#Comment_4265976

    I'd say enjoy using it, but I guess you can't besides running apt update?

    Running couple of Python bots for telegram
    plus one “out of box” use case (using WebMin)

  • @elliotc said: since the ticket is closed and I am **not allowed ** to reply on it

    To be fair, it does say "you may reply to this to re-open it". If you feel neither of those options are fair, reply to the ticket and say so. I'm you probably won't get the result you want, but you definitely can still re-open it.

    That said, just reading the ticket should be enough to know that you don't want your server re-instated. "Don't use so much RAM that you swap to disk" is so far being unreasonable that you should drop them immediately as a provider. You using 100% CPU for 2x 40 minutes (as per your graph) is excessive on a shared server, but if you can't use all the RAM you've been allocated and not allowed to swap to disk (which would look like any other IO), then they're not a provider you want to stay with.

    Unless you paid a lot of money such that the $10 represents good value to move to LA or you really need the Tokyo location and you managed to get a huge bandwidth VPS that you really need, just be glad you got the message early and get out of there as fast as you can.

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  • Virmach is shit

    Thanked by 3Rubben satorik jcn50
  • @ralf said: "you may reply to this to re-open it"

    read the line (Sometimes this is not possible.) No, it cannot. And It's not about money at all; it's about me feeling offended. I don't want to suck his ball as I am the guy who pays him. I guess I am not the good customer he wants.

    I would say this is not the single issue; it is just a trigger point for the distrust. I just want to leave now and publicly denounce what I consider to be blackmail. It's not a matter of right or wrong or to be fair, I'm just leaving my bad review to him.

    Like I said in the first few comments, even if he released the vps, I wouldn't go back. In fact, I don't visit the green forums as much as I used to.

  • @elliotc said:
    I would say this is not the single issue; it is just a trigger point for the distrust. I just want to leave now

    That's fair, you should do that.

    and publicly denounce what I consider to be blackmail. It's not a matter of right or wrong or to be fair, I'm just leaving my bad review to him.

    I doubt it'll make any difference. He hasn't been here for 2 years ago, because he didn't like that people messaged him here after he did stuff like this on their tickets - which IIRC were mostly just questions about "hey I ordered this 6 months ago, what's the ETA" -> extra 2 week penalty, or "my server won't even boot and the control panel doesn't work" --> banned, etc.

    The vast majority of people here wouldn't recommend him, and generally those that do caveat it with "but not with anything for production". Publicly denouncing him or whatever isn't going to change anyone's opinion.

    Like I said in the first few comments, even if he released the vps, I wouldn't go back. In fact, I don't visit the green forums as much as I used to.

    Yeah, chalk it to a bad experience and move on.

    Thanked by 3dev_vps tenji admax
  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited January 2025

    @ralf said:

    The vast majority of people here wouldn't recommend him, and generally those that do caveat it with "but not with anything for production".

    I use for side projects with the understanding that vps can disappear anytime.

    For me, it is like spot vm, but much better configuration and price-value as compared to one provider who is marketing spot VMs.

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  • Did I get that right, u r paid till 7/4/26? Like for another full year and he suggests the option of staying suspended till then? @elliotc

    Thanked by 2Saragoldfarb admax
  • Yeah, chalk it to a bad experience and move on.

    Like I said, that's shame on me.

    @ralf said: I doubt it'll make any difference. He hasn't been here for 2 years ago, because he didn't like that people messaged him here after he did stuff like this on their tickets - which IIRC were mostly just questions about "hey I ordered this 6 months ago, what's the ETA" -> extra 2 week penalty, or "my server won't even boot and the control panel doesn't work" --> banned, etc.

    The vast majority of people here wouldn't recommend him, and generally those that do caveat it with "but not with anything for production". Publicly denouncing him or whatever isn't going to change anyone's opinion.

    I can shame others who buy Virmached in the future by quoting this post and say "I warned you." I will have fun for this.

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