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Which do you prefer: Hetzner, OVH, or Netcup?

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  • Hetzner is good for dedicated servers. For their VPS, I use it for quick deploy to test stuff around due to their flexible pricing. I recently started using netcup and so far I'm satisfied.

    OVH is best for DDoS protection but their "ID verification" is worst among all 3. And their non-helpful and long support makes it worse for company their size.
    OVH's DDoS protection is good for standalone stuff. Unless you have your entire stack on OVH network, using it will be useless. Their "edge firewall" rules don't work for whitelisting certain IPs.

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  • @EthanZou said:

    @adns said:

    @EthanZou said:

    @adns said: I operate production cPanel WHM server with 20--30 sites on a netcup RS and for this usage it is excellent, no downtime or problems.

    So, Netcup is stable too, right? Just like Hetzner Cloud.

    I don't have experience with Hetzner Cloud. Yes, in my opinion netcup is stable. The only one negative point that cPanel sends an email that MariaDB restarts once or twice a week at night but in real use it is not seeable at visitor side, I got the mail when I browsed one of our sites and did not experience slower load or db problem.

    Thanks a lot!
    So, whether it's Hetzner, Netcup, or OVH, they’re all stable and suitable for production, right?

    @anbelevebel said: 1. Scalability (most important one for me)

    What's your use case? Online shop?

    Yes, stable and reliable but if you want avoid outages suggested way is HA system where the load balanced and if a server goes down others continue to serve the requests.

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  • Hetzner ...

  • @adns said:

    @EthanZou said:

    @adns said:

    @EthanZou said:

    @adns said: I operate production cPanel WHM server with 20--30 sites on a netcup RS and for this usage it is excellent, no downtime or problems.

    So, Netcup is stable too, right? Just like Hetzner Cloud.

    I don't have experience with Hetzner Cloud. Yes, in my opinion netcup is stable. The only one negative point that cPanel sends an email that MariaDB restarts once or twice a week at night but in real use it is not seeable at visitor side, I got the mail when I browsed one of our sites and did not experience slower load or db problem.

    Thanks a lot!
    So, whether it's Hetzner, Netcup, or OVH, they’re all stable and suitable for production, right?

    @anbelevebel said: 1. Scalability (most important one for me)

    What's your use case? Online shop?

    Yes, stable and reliable but if you want avoid outages suggested way is HA system where the load balanced and if a server goes down others continue to serve the requests.

    Do you use load balancing? What's your setup like?

  • @eris said:
    Hetzner ...

    Why not Netcup?

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  • I heard that Netcup DDoS protection is useless.

  • Never used them. Have good experience and don't want to multiple providers invoices

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  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited December 2024

    @tedtomato said:

    @stefeman said:
    Hetzner might just one day fuck you over without any reason and terminate everything cuz you used too much bandwidth.

    So with a valid reason then

    Dumbass. If they sell unmetered bandwidth, its not a valid reason to terminate or limit you. fuck hetzner.

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  • @stefeman said:

    @tedtomato said:

    @stefeman said:
    Hetzner might just one day fuck you over without any reason and terminate everything cuz you used too much bandwidth.

    So with a valid reason then

    Dumbass. If they sell unmetered bandwidth, its not a valid reason to terminate or limit you. fuck hetzner.

    Thanks, argument well made, smart... You don't seem to understand that someone using too much bandwidth is impacting other users and degrading their service on the same platform.

    Are you naive enough to still buy the "unlimited" bandwidth, "unlimited" minutes etc.

  • @tedtomato said:

    @stefeman said:

    @tedtomato said:

    @stefeman said:
    Hetzner might just one day fuck you over without any reason and terminate everything cuz you used too much bandwidth.

    So with a valid reason then

    Dumbass. If they sell unmetered bandwidth, its not a valid reason to terminate or limit you. fuck hetzner.

    Thanks, argument well made, smart... You don't seem to understand that someone using too much bandwidth is impacting other users and degrading their service on the same platform.

    Are you naive enough to still buy the "unlimited" bandwidth, "unlimited" minutes etc.

    With dedicated servers, yes. Especially when the support confirms it.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    guys be kind life's short

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    I will say though that from every metric measurable, Hetzner looks like they actually care a lot more than OVH does. Less bugs and less weirdness overall. Both solid hardware and decent stability.

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  • Netcup Root Servers are great actually for performance at reasonable price.

    Otherwise I took advantage of limited time offers by MassiveGRID, aside from last weekend downtime, they have a very cheap offer, with a great AntiDDoS suitable for gaming and general hosting

  • @eupsagony said: Netcup Root Servers are great actually for performance at reasonable price.

    How about Netcup RS and Hetzner VDS in comparison?

  • @EthanZou said:

    @eupsagony said: Netcup Root Servers are great actually for performance at reasonable price.

    How about Netcup RS and Hetzner VDS in comparison?

    The RS of Netcup dropping everywhere when we speak of Single Core Performance
    I got Amsterdam RS when they released, got the promo
    GB6 SingleCore could top up 2100
    Now ..... LOL ... Dropping to 1900
    I am seeing Dedicated Core that oversell here
    I am thinking of the impossibility of selling 16 cores to 16 customers only.
    I am thinking of selling 16 cores to 32 customers or even 64 customers

    And hoping all the customers idling for 0% for the rest of 24hour x 30 days

    Netcup Network - the best in speed
    Netcup Anexia - BGP Check - the best from ASIA
    Netcup third party Finance check - the a$$
    Netcup Support - Too slow - Too cute to be Professional

    I believed Money$ will equal
    Hetzner is expensive,
    but I am seeing High Quality Performance

  • @riomartin said:
    I believed Money$ will equal
    Hetzner is expensive,
    but I am seeing High Quality Performance

    Thank you! riomartin.

  • @EthanZou said:

    @eupsagony said: Netcup Root Servers are great actually for performance at reasonable price.

    How about Netcup RS and Hetzner VDS in comparison?

    Not sure, I don't use Hetzner because I don't like to give out my ID

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  • best part of hetzner is scale up and down in 1-2 mins (yep give id is danger but i will do legal things in hetzner)
    ovh have too many services, they like AWS
    netcup have setup fee, i don't like that

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  • Anyone know the uptime of netcup arm vps?
    I heard RS is good but for VPS it shows on website minimum uptime guarantee is only 99.6%

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  • I personally use Hetzner and Netcup They are both very good with almost no downtimes...no idea about OVH.

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  • @kv1108 said: netcup have setup fee, i don't like that

    RS has no setup fee.

  • OVH wins for cheap bare metal hardware, but their VPS options are extremely non-competitive. Too little for too much. They're ideal when you want to have a cheap bare metal for any reason.

    Hetzner wins for a great and responsive UI and fast drives, making it exceptionally easy and snappy to deploy temporary VPSes for a few hours. I haven't tried their bare metal servers but people often praise them, they even order custom motherboards meant for customer hardware but adapted to sit well in the racks, how cool is that?

    I haven't touched Netcup much. They seem to be winning over Hetzner by the performance/dollar ratio but subjectively feel a little slower than Hetzner's. Personally I'd choose them for long-term projects.

    I'm happily using all of them. At one point you start seeing which fits your project the most and then choose accordingly.

  • @huntercop said:
    I personally recommend @crunchbits and happy with them so far, one year in.
    Running multiple production apps.
    https://crunchbits.com/

    Are they in Europe as well?

  • @Araki said: Hetzner wins for a great and responsive UI and fast drives, making it exceptionally easy and snappy to deploy temporary VPSes for a few hours. I haven't tried their bare metal servers but people often praise them, they even order custom motherboards meant for customer hardware but adapted to sit well in the racks, how cool is that?

    OVH and Scaleway also design their own motherboards.

  • @Araki said: I haven't touched Netcup much. They seem to be winning over Hetzner by the performance/dollar ratio but subjectively feel a little slower than Hetzner's.

    Netcup rs is great.

  • sreekanth850sreekanth850 Member
    edited December 2024

    After using all 3, I will say Hetzner or OVH for any production environments. Nectup private lan offers 100mbits speed for free, which cannot be used for any production workloads.

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  • @sreekanth850 said: Nectup private lan offers 100mbits speed for free, which cannot be used for any production workloads.

    Thx~
    Netcup RS?

  • @EthanZou said:

    @sreekanth850 said: Nectup private lan offers 100mbits speed for free, which cannot be used for any production workloads.

    Thx~
    Netcup RS?

    They only give 100 mbits for private network, if you want more its paid. I don't know without private network how some one can setup some db clusters, search clusters etc.

  • @sreekanth850 said:

    @EthanZou said:

    @sreekanth850 said: Nectup private lan offers 100mbits speed for free, which cannot be used for any production workloads.

    Thx~
    Netcup RS?

    They only give 100 mbits for private network, if you want more its paid. I don't know without private network how some one can setup some db clusters, search clusters etc.

    BTW, what's the private network speed on Hetzner Cloud? 1gbps?

  • ksekse Member
    edited December 2024

    @sreekanth850 said:
    Nectup private lan offers 100mbits speed for free, which cannot be used for any production workloads.

    yeah but the 100mbit are free of charge. if you need more bandwidth on a private vlan between your virtual machines then book a faster one and pay for it.

    I mean, what are you complaining about ? Other companies don't even offer a private vlan at all. most people will be fine with 100mbit private network between their own machines.
    But if needed you can book i think up to 2.5gbit/s private vlan. i'm not sure. the 100mbit is enough for the traffic between my 3 virtual servers.

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