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Which do you prefer: Hetzner, OVH, or Netcup?

Which is the best choice for hosting a US-based web application: Hetzner, OVH, or Netcup?

And which one offers the best value for money right now?

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  • MrRadicMrRadic Host Rep, Veteran

    Which region? Which product?

  • none of the 3 ... overpriced, overrated ...

  • @NetPIMP said:
    none of the 3 ... overpriced, overrated ...

    Then tell us which one you use then lol

  • DrNutellaDrNutella Member
    edited November 2024

    I personally recommend @crunchbits and happy with them so far, one year in.
    Running multiple production apps.
    https://crunchbits.com/

  • @huntercop said:
    I personally recommend @crunchbits and happy with them so far, one year in.
    Running multiple production apps.
    https://crunchbits.com/

    always out of stock

    Thanked by 2emg88 Araki
  • @MrRadic said:
    Which region? Which product?

    US East Cloud.

  • If have to choose from these 3x, it's Hetzner, OVH, and Netcup...

  • edited November 2024

    I have a small Hetzner box because I needed a box with an access to an entire /64 and a Netcup rootserver for video encoding (8 cores, 16GB memory @ 14 EUR/m). Netcup's VDSes are relatively cheap.

    I'd probably do Hetzner for just hosting stuff.

  • I've had several of OVH's dedi's over the years, can't really complain about uptime/thoughput/etc. These days, I just need more flexibility (esp. drives) and their offerings just haven't maintained my business.

  • @MallocVoidstar said: I'd probably do Hetzner for just hosting stuff.

    But why not Netcup?

  • Happily using 1-3 tiny VPS on Hetzner for 4 years with 100% uptime. Just picked up a couple of servers from NetCup on Black Friday for testing and so far the server is pretty fast but their admin panel is far behind Hetzner.

  • Had Hetznet dedi, moved to Netcup root and using for three years already.

  • @network said:
    Happily using 1-3 tiny VPS on Hetzner for 4 years with 100% uptime. Just picked up a couple of servers from NetCup on Black Friday for testing and so far the server is pretty fast but their admin panel is far behind Hetzner.

    How about Hetzner's Shared vCPU AMD and Netcup's Root Server in comparison?
    Which one is more powerful?

    @Kodis said: Had Hetznet dedi, moved to Netcup root

    Is it because Netcup root is cheaper?

  • CabbageCabbage Member
    edited November 2024

    I have used both Hetzner few years ago and currently using Netcup. Hetzner has (at least had, since I don't know what they're like now) better support response time, admin panel, and better payment policy. But with their pricing nowadays, I don't think they are as competitive as they used to be.

    In terms of value, Netcup feels like they're now ahead of Hetzner, but Hetzner offers really big servers which Netcup doesn't have. But I don't need those gigantic servers, which is why I am with Netcup. OVH sounds too good to be true, especially that KS-A, but I'm planning on trying them out soon.

    Few things I would watch out for:
    OVH has somewhat limited bandwidth. Low end KS lines have 300Mbps, so it may not be suitable for some file-sharing stuffs.
    Hetzner is currently on a constant price increase. Additionally, although I doubt many people will hit it, their unlimited traffic isn't really unlimited. But then again, this applies to a lot of hosts. Make sure to read the abuse policy.
    Netcup KYC is known to be bad. Also look out for their contract period.

    @NetPIMP said:
    none of the 3 ... overpriced, overrated ...

    I can see why some people don't like them but overpriced is definitely a stretch.

    Thanked by 1EthanZou
  • The Netcup Piko is pretty insane value, out of stock though.

  • MrRadicMrRadic Host Rep, Veteran

    @Cabbage said:
    I have used both Hetzner few years ago and currently using Netcup. Hetzner has (at least had, since I don't know what they're like now) better support response time, admin panel, and better payment policy. But with their pricing nowadays, I don't think they are as competitive as they used to be.

    In terms of value, Netcup feels like they're now ahead of Hetzner, but Hetzner offers really big servers which Netcup doesn't have. But I don't need those gigantic servers, which is why I am with Netcup. OVH sounds too good to be true, especially that KS-A, but I'm planning on trying them out soon.

    Few things I would watch out for:
    OVH has somewhat limited bandwidth. Low end KS lines have 300Mbps, so it may not be suitable for some file-sharing stuffs.
    Hetzner is currently on a constant price increase. Additionally, although I doubt many people will hit it, their unlimited traffic isn't really unlimited. But then again, this applies to a lot of hosts. Make sure to read the abuse policy.
    Netcup KYC is known to be bad. Also look out for their contract period.

    @NetPIMP said:
    none of the 3 ... overpriced, overrated ...

    I can see why some people don't like them but overpriced is definitely a stretch.

    The KS-A isn't readily obtainable.

  • They are all great.

    OVH is far superior in terms of DDos protection.
    They're not even in the same league.

    So I would say OVH even if the support isn't great (without paying for it) .
    Usually there's no need because it just works. But when you need it, good luck.

    I really like netcup too

    Thanked by 1EthanZou
  • @Cabbage said: Netcup KYC is known to be bad.

    Only on first purchase or can they cause problems later? On my first order they gave me two options: pay first month in advance or upload an ID. I paid and got my VPS in a few minutes.

  • @Cabbage said:
    I have used both Hetzner few years ago and currently using Netcup. Hetzner has (at least had, since I don't know what they're like now) better support response time, admin panel, and better payment policy. But with their pricing nowadays, I don't think they are as competitive as they used to be.

    In terms of value, Netcup feels like they're now ahead of Hetzner, but Hetzner offers really big servers which Netcup doesn't have. But I don't need those gigantic servers, which is why I am with Netcup. OVH sounds too good to be true, especially that KS-A, but I'm planning on trying them out soon.

    Few things I would watch out for:
    OVH has somewhat limited bandwidth. Low end KS lines have 300Mbps, so it may not be suitable for some file-sharing stuffs.
    Hetzner is currently on a constant price increase. Additionally, although I doubt many people will hit it, their unlimited traffic isn't really unlimited. But then again, this applies to a lot of hosts. Make sure to read the abuse policy.
    Netcup KYC is known to be bad. Also look out for their contract period.

    @NetPIMP said:
    none of the 3 ... overpriced, overrated ...

    I can see why some people don't like them but overpriced is definitely a stretch.

    How about Hetzner's Shared vCPU AMD and Netcup's Root Server in comparison?
    Which one is more powerful?

  • @EthanZou said:

    @Cabbage said:
    I have used both Hetzner few years ago and currently using Netcup. Hetzner has (at least had, since I don't know what they're like now) better support response time, admin panel, and better payment policy. But with their pricing nowadays, I don't think they are as competitive as they used to be.

    In terms of value, Netcup feels like they're now ahead of Hetzner, but Hetzner offers really big servers which Netcup doesn't have. But I don't need those gigantic servers, which is why I am with Netcup. OVH sounds too good to be true, especially that KS-A, but I'm planning on trying them out soon.

    Few things I would watch out for:
    OVH has somewhat limited bandwidth. Low end KS lines have 300Mbps, so it may not be suitable for some file-sharing stuffs.
    Hetzner is currently on a constant price increase. Additionally, although I doubt many people will hit it, their unlimited traffic isn't really unlimited. But then again, this applies to a lot of hosts. Make sure to read the abuse policy.
    Netcup KYC is known to be bad. Also look out for their contract period.

    @NetPIMP said:
    none of the 3 ... overpriced, overrated ...

    I can see why some people don't like them but overpriced is definitely a stretch.

    How about Hetzner's Shared vCPU AMD and Netcup's Root Server in comparison?
    Which one is more powerful?

    YABS for RS1000 (4 core) (ran yesterday):

    $ curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash -s
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-06-09                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Fr 29. Nov 19:30:42 CET 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 9634 84-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 2246.624 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 7.7 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 503.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-28-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : netcup GmbH
    ASN        : AS214996 netcup GmbH
    Host       : netcup GmbH
    Location   : Manassas, Virginia (VA)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 231.39 MB/s  (57.8k) | 469.29 MB/s   (7.3k)
    Write      | 232.00 MB/s  (58.0k) | 471.76 MB/s   (7.3k)
    Total      | 463.40 MB/s (115.8k) | 941.05 MB/s  (14.7k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 506.03 MB/s    (988) | 752.80 MB/s    (735)
    Write      | 532.92 MB/s   (1.0k) | 802.94 MB/s    (784)
    Total      | 1.03 GB/s     (2.0k) | 1.55 GB/s     (1.5k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.25 Gbits/sec  | 961 Mbits/sec   | 76.0 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.41 Gbits/sec  | 2.19 Gbits/sec  | 82.8 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 733 Mbits/sec   | 746 Mbits/sec   | 192 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.80 Gbits/sec  | 578 Mbits/sec   | 225 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 2.37 Gbits/sec  | 1.65 Gbits/sec  | 55.7 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.71 Gbits/sec  | 2.38 Gbits/sec  | 7.33 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | 954 Mbits/sec   | 123 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.42 Gbits/sec  | 348 Mbits/sec   | 76.0 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.81 Gbits/sec  | 2.16 Gbits/sec  | 83.1 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 913 Mbits/sec   | 554 Mbits/sec   | 192 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 777 Mbits/sec   | 1.29 Gbits/sec  | 225 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.68 Gbits/sec  | 1.73 Gbits/sec  | 55.7 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.73 Gbits/sec  | 2.35 Gbits/sec  | 7.37 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.19 Gbits/sec  | 904 Mbits/sec   | 123 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 2031
    Multi Core      | 6800
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9143601
    
    YABS completed in 12 min 39 sec
    

    I don't have a 4 shared core Hetzner to compare, maybe you can find a YABS on this forum or someone else could post.

    Thanked by 1EthanZou
  • @network said:

    @EthanZou said:

    @Cabbage said:
    I have used both Hetzner few years ago and currently using Netcup. Hetzner has (at least had, since I don't know what they're like now) better support response time, admin panel, and better payment policy. But with their pricing nowadays, I don't think they are as competitive as they used to be.

    In terms of value, Netcup feels like they're now ahead of Hetzner, but Hetzner offers really big servers which Netcup doesn't have. But I don't need those gigantic servers, which is why I am with Netcup. OVH sounds too good to be true, especially that KS-A, but I'm planning on trying them out soon.

    Few things I would watch out for:
    OVH has somewhat limited bandwidth. Low end KS lines have 300Mbps, so it may not be suitable for some file-sharing stuffs.
    Hetzner is currently on a constant price increase. Additionally, although I doubt many people will hit it, their unlimited traffic isn't really unlimited. But then again, this applies to a lot of hosts. Make sure to read the abuse policy.
    Netcup KYC is known to be bad. Also look out for their contract period.

    @NetPIMP said:
    none of the 3 ... overpriced, overrated ...

    I can see why some people don't like them but overpriced is definitely a stretch.

    How about Hetzner's Shared vCPU AMD and Netcup's Root Server in comparison?
    Which one is more powerful?

    YABS for RS1000 (4 core) (ran yesterday):

    $ curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash -s
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-06-09                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Fr 29. Nov 19:30:42 CET 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 9634 84-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 2246.624 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 7.7 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 503.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-28-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : netcup GmbH
    ASN        : AS214996 netcup GmbH
    Host       : netcup GmbH
    Location   : Manassas, Virginia (VA)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 231.39 MB/s  (57.8k) | 469.29 MB/s   (7.3k)
    Write      | 232.00 MB/s  (58.0k) | 471.76 MB/s   (7.3k)
    Total      | 463.40 MB/s (115.8k) | 941.05 MB/s  (14.7k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 506.03 MB/s    (988) | 752.80 MB/s    (735)
    Write      | 532.92 MB/s   (1.0k) | 802.94 MB/s    (784)
    Total      | 1.03 GB/s     (2.0k) | 1.55 GB/s     (1.5k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.25 Gbits/sec  | 961 Mbits/sec   | 76.0 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.41 Gbits/sec  | 2.19 Gbits/sec  | 82.8 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 733 Mbits/sec   | 746 Mbits/sec   | 192 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.80 Gbits/sec  | 578 Mbits/sec   | 225 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 2.37 Gbits/sec  | 1.65 Gbits/sec  | 55.7 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.71 Gbits/sec  | 2.38 Gbits/sec  | 7.33 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | 954 Mbits/sec   | 123 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.42 Gbits/sec  | 348 Mbits/sec   | 76.0 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.81 Gbits/sec  | 2.16 Gbits/sec  | 83.1 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 913 Mbits/sec   | 554 Mbits/sec   | 192 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 777 Mbits/sec   | 1.29 Gbits/sec  | 225 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.68 Gbits/sec  | 1.73 Gbits/sec  | 55.7 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.73 Gbits/sec  | 2.35 Gbits/sec  | 7.37 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.19 Gbits/sec  | 904 Mbits/sec   | 123 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 2031
    Multi Core      | 6800
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9143601
    
    YABS completed in 12 min 39 sec
    

    I don't have a 4 shared core Hetzner to compare, maybe you can find a YABS on this forum or someone else could post.

    That's great! Thank you!
    But unfortunately, they are all sold out. :|

  • @EthanZou said:

    @network said:

    @EthanZou said:

    @Cabbage said:
    I have used both Hetzner few years ago and currently using Netcup. Hetzner has (at least had, since I don't know what they're like now) better support response time, admin panel, and better payment policy. But with their pricing nowadays, I don't think they are as competitive as they used to be.

    In terms of value, Netcup feels like they're now ahead of Hetzner, but Hetzner offers really big servers which Netcup doesn't have. But I don't need those gigantic servers, which is why I am with Netcup. OVH sounds too good to be true, especially that KS-A, but I'm planning on trying them out soon.

    Few things I would watch out for:
    OVH has somewhat limited bandwidth. Low end KS lines have 300Mbps, so it may not be suitable for some file-sharing stuffs.
    Hetzner is currently on a constant price increase. Additionally, although I doubt many people will hit it, their unlimited traffic isn't really unlimited. But then again, this applies to a lot of hosts. Make sure to read the abuse policy.
    Netcup KYC is known to be bad. Also look out for their contract period.

    @NetPIMP said:
    none of the 3 ... overpriced, overrated ...

    I can see why some people don't like them but overpriced is definitely a stretch.

    How about Hetzner's Shared vCPU AMD and Netcup's Root Server in comparison?
    Which one is more powerful?

    YABS for RS1000 (4 core) (ran yesterday):

    $ curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash -s
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-06-09                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Fr 29. Nov 19:30:42 CET 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 9634 84-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 2246.624 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 7.7 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 503.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-28-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : netcup GmbH
    ASN        : AS214996 netcup GmbH
    Host       : netcup GmbH
    Location   : Manassas, Virginia (VA)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 231.39 MB/s  (57.8k) | 469.29 MB/s   (7.3k)
    Write      | 232.00 MB/s  (58.0k) | 471.76 MB/s   (7.3k)
    Total      | 463.40 MB/s (115.8k) | 941.05 MB/s  (14.7k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 506.03 MB/s    (988) | 752.80 MB/s    (735)
    Write      | 532.92 MB/s   (1.0k) | 802.94 MB/s    (784)
    Total      | 1.03 GB/s     (2.0k) | 1.55 GB/s     (1.5k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.25 Gbits/sec  | 961 Mbits/sec   | 76.0 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.41 Gbits/sec  | 2.19 Gbits/sec  | 82.8 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 733 Mbits/sec   | 746 Mbits/sec   | 192 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.80 Gbits/sec  | 578 Mbits/sec   | 225 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 2.37 Gbits/sec  | 1.65 Gbits/sec  | 55.7 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.71 Gbits/sec  | 2.38 Gbits/sec  | 7.33 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | 954 Mbits/sec   | 123 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.42 Gbits/sec  | 348 Mbits/sec   | 76.0 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.81 Gbits/sec  | 2.16 Gbits/sec  | 83.1 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 913 Mbits/sec   | 554 Mbits/sec   | 192 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 777 Mbits/sec   | 1.29 Gbits/sec  | 225 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.68 Gbits/sec  | 1.73 Gbits/sec  | 55.7 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.73 Gbits/sec  | 2.35 Gbits/sec  | 7.37 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.19 Gbits/sec  | 904 Mbits/sec   | 123 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 2031
    Multi Core      | 6800
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9143601
    
    YABS completed in 12 min 39 sec
    

    I don't have a 4 shared core Hetzner to compare, maybe you can find a YABS on this forum or someone else could post.

    That's great! Thank you!
    But unfortunately, they are all sold out. :|

    EU ones are available but no Black Friday offer now, so slightly more expensive and half the disk. https://www.netcup.com/en/server/root-server/rs-1000-g11-iv-12m#rs-1000-g11-iv

    Thanked by 1EthanZou
  • @network said:

    @Cabbage said: Netcup KYC is known to be bad.

    Only on first purchase or can they cause problems later? On my first order they gave me two options: pay first month in advance or upload an ID. I paid and got my VPS in a few minutes.

    Once you're past that, then probably not. I have been with them for years, but they KYCd once.

  • @Cabbage said:

    @network said:

    @Cabbage said: Netcup KYC is known to be bad.

    Only on first purchase or can they cause problems later? On my first order they gave me two options: pay first month in advance or upload an ID. I paid and got my VPS in a few minutes.

    Once you're past that, then probably not. I have been with them for years, but they KYCd once.

    @Cabbage said:

    @network said:

    @Cabbage said: Netcup KYC is known to be bad.

    Only on first purchase or can they cause problems later? On my first order they gave me two options: pay first month in advance or upload an ID. I paid and got my VPS in a few minutes.

    Once you're past that, then probably not. I have been with them for years, but they KYCd once.

    That once was when you placed your first order?

  • CabbageCabbage Member
    edited December 2024

    @network said:

    @Cabbage said:

    @network said:

    @Cabbage said: Netcup KYC is known to be bad.

    Only on first purchase or can they cause problems later? On my first order they gave me two options: pay first month in advance or upload an ID. I paid and got my VPS in a few minutes.

    Once you're past that, then probably not. I have been with them for years, but they KYCd once.

    @Cabbage said:

    @network said:

    @Cabbage said: Netcup KYC is known to be bad.

    Only on first purchase or can they cause problems later? On my first order they gave me two options: pay first month in advance or upload an ID. I paid and got my VPS in a few minutes.

    Once you're past that, then probably not. I have been with them for years, but they KYCd once.

    That once was when you placed your first order?

    Yup, they asked me before giving me the first server I had with them. They probably won't ask for more, even if you purchase some more in the future.

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  • Well, look, at the moment, there's no Hetzner in the U.S., only in Europe. In general, I prefer AWS, but from this list I would take OVH. So the network in the USA is very cool and the antiddos system, especially TCP is not to be penetrated at all

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @FederalCocoJhon said: Well, look, at the moment, there's no Hetzner in the U.S., only in Europe

    For which products? We have Cloud products on both the US East and West Coasts. --Katie

  • @Hetzner_OL said: We have Cloud products on both the US East and West Coasts. --Katie

    I meant dedicated servers.

  • @Hetzner_OL said: We have Cloud products on both the US East and West Coasts. --Katie

    I respect your hosting, especially for the cheap hardware, but ddos protection compared to ovh you have worse

  • @FederalCocoJhon said: In general, I prefer AWS, but from this list I would take OVH.

    How about OVHcloud vps?

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