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Netcup BF - VPS Deals (Tuesday) - Root Server Deals (Thursday)

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  • @egoror said:

    @loay said: Flagged for admins.It's not funny anymore.

    What is not funny exactly? Thread is about BF deal, what's on their RootServers page is unrelated.

    Black Friday Rootservers will be offered on Thursday, and his comment is about the VPS performance. How is his comment a rant or unrelated, unlike yours?

    Thanked by 1dev_vps
  • @dev_vps said: Who made this comment first?

    What's wrong with this comment lol
    Thread is about BF deal page, referring to RootServers page is unrelated rant.
    Cores can't be pseudo-dedicated if there was no claim they are dedicated.

  • egororegoror Member
    edited November 2024

    @loay said: Black Friday Rootservers will be offered on Thursday, and his comment is about the VPS performance

    His comment is about VPS YABS above - it's on offer now, on the BF page.

  • If anyone is triggered by my post, I can not control his being triggered/upset. It is entirely his problem

    And I don’t care no what matter what you post

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @egoror You have been warned.

    Thanked by 1dev_vps
  • Thank you @Arkas

  • @Arkas said: @egoror You have been warned.

    Gotcha

  • @loay said:

    @egoror said:

    @loay said: Flagged for admins.It's not funny anymore.

    What is not funny exactly? Thread is about BF deal, what's on their RootServers page is unrelated.

    Black Friday Rootservers will be offered on Thursday, and his comment is about the VPS performance. How is his comment a rant or unrelated, unlike yours?

    Thank you.

  • @Falzo said: @shaikhmanal crypto related stuff is forbidden on netcup, they ban user for it - just a heads up. ;-)

    lol why do you think I'd do that?

  • @network said: Thanks. 5 hours to go, I'll keep checking.

    5 hours to go? The deal will expire in 5 hours(or howmuchever is left).

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    The one I have has much better results and an Nvme 500GB drive, but costs twice as much. I'll keep it, and see what they offer on Thursday. Netcup is also very reliable for those who are thinking for production purposes, although I want to test mine for a longer period before hosting mission critical sites on it.

    Thanked by 1maverick
  • @shaikhmanal said:

    @Falzo said: @shaikhmanal crypto related stuff is forbidden on netcup, they ban user for it - just a heads up. ;-)

    lol why do you think I'd do that?

    dunno, some kind of gut feeling ;-)

    sorry, no offense meant by that!

  • I bought a VPS 1000 G11 SE BW24 for myself.

    They have delivered the server, but they haven’t created an invoice yet. I assume that, as an existing customer, I’ll receive the invoice at the end of the month with payment on my regular billing date (13.), but I’m not sure.

    A two-week credit period is always nice.

    Yabs:

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    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2024-06-09

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

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    Di 26. Nov 17:58:32 CET 2024

    Basic System Information:

    Uptime : 0 days, 0 hours, 7 minutes
    Processor : AMD EPYC-Milan Processor
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2246.622 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM : 7.7 GiB
    Swap : 0.0 KiB
    Disk : 503.8 GiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-28-amd64
    VM Type : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:

    ISP : DE-NETCUP-KVM-VIE
    ASN : AS47147 ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH
    Host : De Netcup KVM VIE
    Location : Vienna, Vienna (9)
    Country : Austria

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 200.65 MB/s (50.1k) 488.13 MB/s (7.6k)
    Write 201.17 MB/s (50.2k) 490.70 MB/s (7.6k)
    Total 401.82 MB/s (100.4k) 978.83 MB/s (15.2k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 542.45 MB/s (1.0k) 753.08 MB/s (735)
    Write 571.27 MB/s (1.1k) 803.24 MB/s (784)
    Total 1.11 GB/s (2.1k) 1.55 GB/s (1.5k)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 2.66 Gbits/sec 2.33 Gbits/sec 18.6 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 2.73 Gbits/sec 2.37 Gbits/sec 17.1 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 57.8 Mbits/sec 1.74 Gbits/sec 92.0 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 810 Mbits/sec busy 153 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 1.07 Gbits/sec 1.03 Gbits/sec 155 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 2.43 Gbits/sec 1.81 Gbits/sec 94.4 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 2.14 Gbits/sec 622 Mbits/sec 199 ms

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider Location (Link) Send Speed Recv Speed Ping
    Clouvider London, UK (10G) 2.69 Gbits/sec 2.28 Gbits/sec 18.7 ms
    Eranium Amsterdam, NL (100G) 2.67 Gbits/sec 2.32 Gbits/sec 17.1 ms
    Uztelecom Tashkent, UZ (10G) 1.17 Gbits/sec 489 Mbits/sec 91.7 ms
    Leaseweb Singapore, SG (10G) 1.19 Gbits/sec 1.83 Gbits/sec 153 ms
    Clouvider Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) 1.12 Gbits/sec 948 Mbits/sec 155 ms
    Leaseweb NYC, NY, US (10G) 2.44 Gbits/sec busy 94.4 ms
    Edgoo Sao Paulo, BR (1G) 2.20 Gbits/sec 688 Mbits/sec 199 ms

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 1861
    Multi Core | 6207
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9085461

    YABS completed in 12 min 12 sec

  • @xvps said:
    I bought a VPS 1000 G11 SE BW24 for myself.

    They have delivered the server, but they haven’t created an invoice yet. I assume that, as an existing customer, I’ll receive the invoice at the end of the month with payment on my regular billing date (13.), but I’m not sure.

    A two-week credit period is always nice.

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 1861
    Multi Core | 6207
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9085461

    YABS completed in 12 min 12 sec

    Can you please check if the cpu kind is EPYC 9634?

  • itsTomHarperitsTomHarper Member, Megathread Squad
    edited November 2024

    G11 - 1.54 Euro first month. 5.75 recurring. Germany

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    Di 26. Nov 17:50:57 CET 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 4 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC-Rome Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 1996.250 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 7.7 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 503.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-28-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : netcup GmbH
    ASN        : AS197540 netcup GmbH
    Host       : NETCUP-GMBH
    Location   : Nuremberg, Bavaria (BY)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 116.58 MB/s  (29.1k) | 799.25 MB/s  (12.4k)
    Write      | 116.88 MB/s  (29.2k) | 803.46 MB/s  (12.5k)
    Total      | 233.47 MB/s  (58.3k) | 1.60 GB/s    (25.0k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 3.32 GB/s     (6.4k) | 1.92 GB/s     (1.8k)
    Write      | 3.49 GB/s     (6.8k) | 2.05 GB/s     (2.0k)
    Total      | 6.82 GB/s    (13.3k) | 3.98 GB/s     (3.8k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.68 Gbits/sec  | 2.32 Gbits/sec  | 20.9 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.71 Gbits/sec  | 2.33 Gbits/sec  | 10.4 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 25.1 Mbits/sec  | 1.62 Gbits/sec  | 109 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 2.07 Gbits/sec  | 1.70 Gbits/sec  | 148 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.12 Gbits/sec  | 819 Mbits/sec   | 148 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.40 Gbits/sec  | 1.84 Gbits/sec  | 91.4 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.16 Gbits/sec  | 593 Mbits/sec   | 198 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.67 Gbits/sec  | 2.24 Gbits/sec  | 20.8 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.72 Gbits/sec  | 2.26 Gbits/sec  | 10.3 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.06 Gbits/sec  | 293 Mbits/sec   | 91.7 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | 1.85 Gbits/sec  | 148 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.13 Gbits/sec  | 746 Mbits/sec   | 147 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.36 Gbits/sec  | 2.04 Gbits/sec  | 91.3 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.17 Gbits/sec  | 992 Mbits/sec   | 198 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1021
    Multi Core      | 3393
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9085372
    
    YABS completed in 14 min 1 sec
    
  • Is there any limit in the cpu usage of their vps line? Supposedly you can smash the cpu of their Root line 24/7 but what happens if you try to do that with their Vps?
    I'm doing something with ai and i kind of prefer to smash the cpu all day instead of limit my usage to x% per hour (if possible).

    Their terms and conditions say this:
    "Running server services that cause a particularly high CPU load; this does not apply in the case of dedicated server and virtual servers."
    Technically a vps is a virtual server, so i don't really know if they throttle or what they actually do if you use the cpu 100% 24/7.

  • itsTomHarperitsTomHarper Member, Megathread Squad

    @dev_vps said:

    @xvps said:
    I bought a VPS 1000 G11 SE BW24 for myself.

    They have delivered the server, but they haven’t created an invoice yet. I assume that, as an existing customer, I’ll receive the invoice at the end of the month with payment on my regular billing date (13.), but I’m not sure.

    A two-week credit period is always nice.

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 1861
    Multi Core | 6207
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9085461

    YABS completed in 12 min 12 sec

    Can you please check if the cpu kind is EPYC 9634?

    I think they mask the exact CPU model from the hypervisor. All it shows "AMD EPYC-Rome". lscpu, cat /proc/cpuinfo and neofetch as well

    Thanked by 2pbx dev_vps
  • pbxpbx Member
    edited November 2024

    AMD EPYC-Milan Processor
    CPU cores : 4 @ 2246.622 MHz

    AMD EPYC-Rome Processor
    CPU cores : 4 @ 1996.250 MHz

    Interesting that there is some kind of node lottery going on...

    @Falzo said:

    @egoror said:

    @dev_vps said: cores are pseudo-dedicated

    Where exactly are they referenced to as dedicated.

    highly likely he was talking about their root servers: https://www.netcup.com/en/server/root-server

    and of course, these are rather threads and dedicated means, 'you can use all you can get' but not really 'full core only reserved for you'

    That's what makes me think that their VPS line is pretty good, perf can be really close to the one of a RS, and as RS cores aren't really dedicated anyway, the (not so small!) price difference is only worth it if your workload implies hammering all cores all day long...

    Thanked by 1Falzo
  • @xvps said:
    I bought a VPS 1000 G11 SE BW24 for myself.

    They have delivered the server, but they haven’t created an invoice yet. I assume that, as an existing customer, I’ll receive the invoice at the end of the month with payment on my regular billing date (13.), but I’m not sure.

    A two-week credit period is always nice.

    In the past you would get the invoice one or two days after order and provisioning.

    Now that they changed everything to an individual billing day for each client, I would expect that invoice to appear on that date and be due for payment immediately.

    Not had any service being due since the change though, so we'll see how this is supposed to work. Feels a lot like imitating Hetzner here.

  • @dev_vps said:

    @xvps said:
    I bought a VPS 1000 G11 SE BW24 for myself.

    They have delivered the server, but they haven’t created an invoice yet. I assume that, as an existing customer, I’ll receive the invoice at the end of the month with payment on my regular billing date (13.), but I’m not sure.

    A two-week credit period is always nice.

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 1861
    Multi Core | 6207
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9085461

    YABS completed in 12 min 12 sec

    Can you please check if the cpu kind is EPYC 9634?

    The only information about the CPU is: CPU: AMD EPYC-Milan @ 4x 2,246GHz

    Thanked by 2pbx dev_vps
  • pbxpbx Member
    edited November 2024

    @dev_vps said: Can you please check if the cpu kind is EPYC 9634?

    @xvps said: The only information about the CPU is: CPU: AMD EPYC-Milan @ 4x 2,246GHz

    Could be a 9634 given the frequency, indeed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epyc#Third_generation_Epyc_(Milan))

  • @pbx said: VPS line is pretty good, perf can be really close to what one would have with a RS

    Usually their VPS line is not even close to the RS for CPU performance (or at least not consistently). My fear is that here also, it'll start good and then drop off.

    The RS line up has pretty consistent performance (and usually much better for the same vCPU cores) compared to the equivalent VPS line up (which can vary and also tends to drop over time). Some of this is because they also expose much more (cpu) flags (though not even close to everything) on the RS line up and this does result in improvements in performance (not just for benchmarking!).

    Thanked by 3pbx Falzo sebkehl
  • pbxpbx Member
    edited November 2024

    @nullnothere said: My fear is that here also, it'll start good and then drop off.

    The more recent nodes (the Milan ones?) are likely not full yet, and it's possible that performance won't be as good in a few weeks. But if there are no noisy neighbours, performance can stay as it is / close.

    It's clear that the performance of the root servers is more predictable in the long run, but price difference isn't insignificant, and in some cases a VPS costing a bit less will have more cores and more power than a RS, even with a fully loaded node...

    (My VPSes with Netcup, while never giving the same geekbench results than the Milan one of the current deal - but they are on older hardware ! - have been really stable CPU wise).

  • 1 hour left, Manassas 5.75 EUR still sold out. Any chance it comes back?

  • cruiserrrcruiserrr Member
    edited November 2024

    ~~Locations are: VIE | NUE | MNZ
    Can anyone tell me what these locations are?
    Thanks!
    ~~
    Found on checkout page! Sorry.

  • pbxpbx Member
    edited November 2024

    @cruiserrr said: Can anyone tell me what these locations are?

    VIE = Vienna, Austria
    NUE = Nuremberg, Germany
    MNZ = Manassas, USA

  • networknetwork Member
    edited November 2024

    @nullnothere said:

    @pbx said: VPS line is pretty good, perf can be really close to what one would have with a RS

    Usually their VPS line is not even close to the RS for CPU performance (or at least not consistently). My fear is that here also, it'll start good and then drop off.

    What about the disk performance? Does it drop off a lot too?

  • @network said:
    What about the disk performance? Does it drop off a lot too?

    No. Disk and network is usually pretty solid and in general Netcup products are very stable.

    Thanked by 3network pbx mupp
  • @network said:
    1 hour left, Manassas 5.75 EUR still sold out. Any chance it comes back?

    In the announcement it was somewhere, that all deals of this week will be available again on BF and maybe CM, so probably you want to watch that closely and keep german timezone on your mind. Usually things are available quite early in the morning.

    Thanked by 1network
  • The deal page says "Additional discount for VIE or NUE" but the price I see is the same for all 3 locations? Did I miss anything?

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