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DeadlyChemist · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
like
free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

Heard about the arrest, but everything else you said is news to me. Prolly the last hpe was the Russian guy's TG. Even that's down the drain now. I remember seeing an app on the series - terminal list though. Let me dig it up.

Oh yah, it was Threema - https://threema.ch/en

Not sure if it was just an ad or if it actually is good for security and privacy.

imo use signal

chitree · November 2024

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:
Let's go and hype for a GA, resource GA? swag GA? or something even better?

Looking for merch now. It's high time, Ig!

Then HYPE it, i guess the chef is going to make a comeback anytime now.

CHEF, We hyping it over here!

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

Same would apply to a laptop too

BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

noob404 · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
like
free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

Heard about the arrest, but everything else you said is news to me. Prolly the last hpe was the Russian guy's TG. Even that's down the drain now. I remember seeing an app on the series - terminal list though. Let me dig it up.

Oh yah, it was Threema - https://threema.ch/en

Not sure if it was just an ad or if it actually is good for security and privacy.

imo use signal

Heard good things about them as well. Unfortunately, users of the app here - Zilch!

TrK · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

noob404 · November 2024

Your AI is diverse, Ig. Decided to make the chef Indian -

BTW< the query was racknerd-server-chef-gifts-in-hand

chitree · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

@chitree said: Not in my circles

here it's whatsapp and discord

I'd rather kill myself than use those products

You could also setup a Matrix protocol chat room with bridges to both of those if you wanted to not use them but still chat with the people on those platforms

DeadlyChemist · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:
Let's go and hype for a GA, resource GA? swag GA? or something even better?

Looking for merch now. It's high time, Ig!

Then HYPE it, i guess the chef is going to make a comeback anytime now.

Are we sure. Got the Chef on chat support now. Time to make requests

generate more, the api is on a racknerd server, might be able to convince chef for a massive upgrade this year...
couldnt convince for a backpack yesterday, upgrades might work lmao

Sure, I am juggling texts and images. Will use it.

might edit the text later with "made possibly by @DeadlyChemist - dustin, please upgrade racknerd-1fc9ea 23.94.217.16"

unsure how well that would work

noob404 · November 2024

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

I mean if it's actually linked to Tencent, it's a safe assumption that it has CCP connections as well. Am I wrong?

noob404 · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:
Let's go and hype for a GA, resource GA? swag GA? or something even better?

Looking for merch now. It's high time, Ig!

Then HYPE it, i guess the chef is going to make a comeback anytime now.

Are we sure. Got the Chef on chat support now. Time to make requests

generate more, the api is on a racknerd server, might be able to convince chef for a massive upgrade this year...
couldnt convince for a backpack yesterday, upgrades might work lmao

Sure, I am juggling texts and images. Will use it.

might edit the text later with "made possibly by @DeadlyChemist - dustin, please upgrade racknerd-1fc9ea 23.94.217.16"

unsure how well that would work

Please do that!

chitree · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

i dislike discord, sadly it's mostly adopted

Not in my circles

Must be a very exclusive circle of like-minded tech-oriented people.

Indeed it is

TrK · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

Same would apply to a laptop too

BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

Tried crita or whatever it's name is, it looks promising and for premiere ig there won't anything good for linux anytime soon.

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@chitree said: Not in my circles

here it's whatsapp and discord

I'd rather kill myself than use those products

You could also setup a Matrix protocol chat room with bridges to both of those if you wanted to not use them but still chat with the people on those platforms

If you don't mind me asking, what's your go to IM then? I mean, not everyone in your friend circle must be tech-savvy. What do you use with them?

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

i dislike discord, sadly it's mostly adopted

Not in my circles

Must be a very exclusive circle of like-minded tech-oriented people.

Indeed it is

Wish I had a circle like that locally.

DeadlyChemist · November 2024

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

technically not... tencent just pours money into discord

honestly look at the parlament of country X and oil or car company Y how much money they pour there and how much power they have there...

i mean, money isnt free, they obviously want something back

noob404 · November 2024

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

Same would apply to a laptop too

BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

Tried crita or whatever it's name is, it looks promising and for premiere ig there won't anything good for linux anytime soon.

This one - https://krita.org/en/
BTW, I don't need any advanced features on Photoshop or Premiere Pro. Just the very basic features. Any recommendations?

chitree · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
like
free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

Telegram hasn't been safe for a long time now, but it's only been more transparent about it recently. They've been co-operating with whatever government wants them to do https://fortune.com/2024/09/24/telegram-provide-user-info-governments-legal-requests-pavel-durov/

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
like
free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

Telegram hasn't been safe for a long time now, but it's only been more transparent about it recently. They've been co-operating with whatever government wants them to do https://fortune.com/2024/09/24/telegram-provide-user-info-governments-legal-requests-pavel-durov/

The only thing attractive about TG was that it was owned by Pavel Durov, in hopes that he won't be a sell-out. There goes that.

TrK · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

I mean if it's actually linked to Tencent, it's a safe assumption that it has CCP connections as well. Am I wrong?

It's not linked, it's just similar how you buy stocks, until you are a major share holder you can't be in decisive committee. Also being an US company do you really think they will allow any connections to ccp?

chitree · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

Same would apply to a laptop too

BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

If you have a beefy enough system, you could setup a Windows virtual machine just for those applications.

DeadlyChemist · November 2024

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
like
free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

Telegram hasn't been safe for a long time now, but it's only been more transparent about it recently. They've been co-operating with whatever government wants them to do https://fortune.com/2024/09/24/telegram-provide-user-info-governments-legal-requests-pavel-durov/

signal tells govs to fuck off, and they give them all details as requested, last time connected to server and account creation date, they dont have more to begin with

noob404 · November 2024

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

I mean if it's actually linked to Tencent, it's a safe assumption that it has CCP connections as well. Am I wrong?

It's not linked, it's just similar how you buy stocks, until you are a major share holder you can't be in decisive committee. Also being an US company do you really think they will allow any connections to ccp?

You are right. Esp. with Trump as POTUS, any such action would result in a big hammer on their heads, if they were to even think about selling data to CCP.

TrK · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

technically not... tencent just pours money into discord

honestly look at the parlament of country X and oil or car company Y how much money they pour there and how much power they have there...

i mean, money isnt free, they obviously want something back

Yeah they are getting back the profits, money makes money, and it's how it functions. It's a simple matter. If i own 10% of a corporate i am entitled to receive 10% of the corporate's profit namely dividends.

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

Same would apply to a laptop too

BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

If you have a beefy enough system, you could setup a Windows virtual machine just for those applications.

Yah, that'd be more convenient, I guess. Been thinking of making the move for almost an year now. Just the thought of moving everything has stopped me. I don't deal very well with change initially.

noob404 · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
like
free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

Telegram hasn't been safe for a long time now, but it's only been more transparent about it recently. They've been co-operating with whatever government wants them to do https://fortune.com/2024/09/24/telegram-provide-user-info-governments-legal-requests-pavel-durov/

signal tells govs to fuck off, and they give them all details as requested, last time connected to server and account creation date, they dont have more to begin with

Well, how can do that since they are still a US-based company and thus a part of 5-Eyes jurisdiction?

DeadlyChemist · November 2024

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

I mean if it's actually linked to Tencent, it's a safe assumption that it has CCP connections as well. Am I wrong?

It's not linked, it's just similar how you buy stocks, until you are a major share holder you can't be in decisive committee. Also being an US company do you really think they will allow any connections to ccp?

ofc they wont, untill you slip them few bills

TrK · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

Same would apply to a laptop too

BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

Tried crita or whatever it's name is, it looks promising and for premiere ig there won't anything good for linux anytime soon.

This one - https://krita.org/en/
BTW, I don't need any advanced features on Photoshop or Premiere Pro. Just the very basic features. Any recommendations?

For photoshop krita and gimp will do, but for premier, it's hard, i know there is shotcut and davinci resolve but there will be some drawback you gotta try it and see for yourself.

chitree · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
like
free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

Heard about the arrest, but everything else you said is news to me. Prolly the last hpe was the Russian guy's TG. Even that's down the drain now. I remember seeing an app on the series - terminal list though. Let me dig it up.

Oh yah, it was Threema - https://threema.ch/en

Not sure if it was just an ad or if it actually is good for security and privacy.

imo use signal

The Signal Protocol design is great but the Signal Messenger implementation is flawed in many ways.

Here is a great article about this topic https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

Here's another article from 2022 about when the Swiss Army banned the use of WhatsApp, Signal & Telegram for use by their soldiers https://www.rt.com/news/545502-switzerland-army-ban-whatsapp-privacy/

noob404 · November 2024

Well, we have ripped through a few pages right now. If we can keep these worthy conversations intact, I not only get to learn a lot from you guys, but, also increase the chances of chef showing up.

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@TrK said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@DeadlyChemist said:

@noob404 said:

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

lmao
at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

dont install tbh
msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

discord does not excrypt messages
owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
you speak up, you get banned

Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
like
free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

Heard about the arrest, but everything else you said is news to me. Prolly the last hpe was the Russian guy's TG. Even that's down the drain now. I remember seeing an app on the series - terminal list though. Let me dig it up.

Oh yah, it was Threema - https://threema.ch/en

Not sure if it was just an ad or if it actually is good for security and privacy.

imo use signal

The Signal Protocol design is great but the Signal Messenger implementation is flawed in many ways.

Here is a great article about this topic https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

Here's another article from 2022 about when the Swiss Army banned the use of WhatsApp, Signal & Telegram for use by their soldiers https://www.rt.com/news/545502-switzerland-army-ban-whatsapp-privacy/

Dude is there anything in the phone world you don't keep tabs on?

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