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noob404 · November 2024

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

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BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

True. Yah, TPM as well is a small module that many motherboards without inbuilt TPM support can have. What about phones though that don't support hardware encryption?

What else it's all software backed encryption but still better than no encryption on devices running android 9 or earlier.

Oh yah, I have completely disconnected all my pre-9 Android devices from the Internet at home.

codelock · November 2024

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@chitree said:

@TrK said:

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@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

True. Yah, TPM as well is a small module that many motherboards without inbuilt TPM support can have. What about phones though that don't support hardware encryption?

Tpm sucks 😞

No, it doesn't.

It does if you know you know

chitree · November 2024

@codelock said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

True. Yah, TPM as well is a small module that many motherboards without inbuilt TPM support can have. What about phones though that don't support hardware encryption?

Tpm sucks 😞

Yes, TPM is terrible

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

I had not heard about this, but I don't put much stock into anything Apple does as they are a major surveillance capitalist company who utilizes their user base as data livestock while selling them fake promises.

The funny thing is, if Apple is doing it, I can't even imagine what a surveillance hawk like CHina might be doing to the phones they sell worldwide.

noob404 · November 2024

@codelock said:

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@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

True. Yah, TPM as well is a small module that many motherboards without inbuilt TPM support can have. What about phones though that don't support hardware encryption?

Tpm sucks 😞

No, it doesn't.

It does if you know you know

Yah, it does now.

TrK · November 2024

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

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@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

I had not heard about this, but I don't put much stock into anything Apple does as they are a major surveillance capitalist company who utilizes their user base as data livestock while selling them fake promises.

Aren't most of the companies in the world like that? capitalism is the core of a corporate.

chitree · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Thank you for this. Didn't even know these OSes had Pixel ports.

The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. _Phones have been "my thing" for the last 10+ years _

Yah, I can totally see that. I was looking for the name of the security chip. Thanks for mentioning it. So, you mean every other brand that advertises encryption, like OnePlus only have software-based enc, and can't have hardware encryption on something like Graphene?

Unless they've released a competitor to the Titan M chip, then that is correct.

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noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@codelock said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

True. Yah, TPM as well is a small module that many motherboards without inbuilt TPM support can have. What about phones though that don't support hardware encryption?

Tpm sucks 😞

Yes, TPM is terrible

I had to bypass the TPM requirement on Win 11 ISO earlier to try it on my ancient hardware. As soon as it installed, I knew it was a mistake.

chitree · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Thank you for this. Didn't even know these OSes had Pixel ports.

The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. _Phones have been "my thing" for the last 10+ years _

Yah, I can totally see that. I was looking for the name of the security chip. Thanks for mentioning it. So, you mean every other brand that advertises encryption, like OnePlus only have software-based enc, and can't have hardware encryption on something like Graphene?

Unless they've released a competitor to the Titan M chip, then that is correct.

Heard of Samsung Knox as well, but, not sure if its hw or sw.

TrK · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

I had not heard about this, but I don't put much stock into anything Apple does as they are a major surveillance capitalist company who utilizes their user base as data livestock while selling them fake promises.

The funny thing is, if Apple is doing it, I can't even imagine what a surveillance hawk like CHina might be doing to the phones they sell worldwide.

And imagine what our little android is doing, eavesdropping on our every convo.

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

noob404 · November 2024

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

I had not heard about this, but I don't put much stock into anything Apple does as they are a major surveillance capitalist company who utilizes their user base as data livestock while selling them fake promises.

The funny thing is, if Apple is doing it, I can't even imagine what a surveillance hawk like CHina might be doing to the phones they sell worldwide.

And imagine what our little android is doing, eavesdropping on our every convo.

Prolly yah. Had to disconnect my Google Home Mini recently after I saw a video on them. Been using it as a BT speaker since then.

TrK · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Thank you for this. Didn't even know these OSes had Pixel ports.

The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. _Phones have been "my thing" for the last 10+ years _

Yah, I can totally see that. I was looking for the name of the security chip. Thanks for mentioning it. So, you mean every other brand that advertises encryption, like OnePlus only have software-based enc, and can't have hardware encryption on something like Graphene?

Unless they've released a competitor to the Titan M chip, then that is correct.

Heard of Samsung Knox as well, but, not sure if its hw or sw.

Knox is hardware backed(afaik), but it is software backed on non s series phones(ig).

noob404 · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Thank you for this. Didn't even know these OSes had Pixel ports.

The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. _Phones have been "my thing" for the last 10+ years _

Yah, I can totally see that. I was looking for the name of the security chip. Thanks for mentioning it. So, you mean every other brand that advertises encryption, like OnePlus only have software-based enc, and can't have hardware encryption on something like Graphene?

Unless they've released a competitor to the Titan M chip, then that is correct.

Heard of Samsung Knox as well, but, not sure if its hw or sw.

Hey just confirmed: Samsung Knox is HW encryption. This is from Samsung's website:-

Samsung Knox isn't a program or application, but is hardware built into your Samsung device at the point of manufacture. However, the overlapping layers and security features that are at the foundation of Samsung Knox do have the added benefit that they can also protect your device from viruses and malware.

The list of phones supporting it - https://www.samsungknox.com/en/knox-platform/supported-devices

noob404 · November 2024

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

Thank you for this. Didn't even know these OSes had Pixel ports.

The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. _Phones have been "my thing" for the last 10+ years _

Yah, I can totally see that. I was looking for the name of the security chip. Thanks for mentioning it. So, you mean every other brand that advertises encryption, like OnePlus only have software-based enc, and can't have hardware encryption on something like Graphene?

Unless they've released a competitor to the Titan M chip, then that is correct.

Heard of Samsung Knox as well, but, not sure if its hw or sw.

Knox is hardware backed(afaik), but it is software backed on non s series phones(ig).

Yah, you are right. It is. Just posted about it.

noob404 · November 2024

The only reason I got a Pixel is to have easy access to Graphene, but, never had the time to install it yet.

noob404 · November 2024

Man, I was engulfed in the convo that I got distracted. Gotta go. What do you guys think? Will we have a GA today at the same time as yesterday?

DeadlyChemist · November 2024

hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

DeadlyChemist · November 2024

not bad tbh

noob404 · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:
hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

Generated using your page:-

chitree · November 2024

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

I had not heard about this, but I don't put much stock into anything Apple does as they are a major surveillance capitalist company who utilizes their user base as data livestock while selling them fake promises.

Aren't most of the companies in the world like that? capitalism is the core of a corporate.

Sure, but part of having & wanting privacy in your life is controlling how, or even if, you feed these companies who are heavily profitting off of people who are completely unaware (or just plainly don't care). It would be one thing if they paid you for your data, but you get harvested without any compensation.

noob404 · November 2024

@DeadlyChemist said:

not bad tbh

What was the query here?

noob404 · November 2024

AI still struggling with spellings

chitree · November 2024

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

And also is Apple doing this "because they care" or is really because they want to harvest that data about people too?

TrK · November 2024

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

I had not heard about this, but I don't put much stock into anything Apple does as they are a major surveillance capitalist company who utilizes their user base as data livestock while selling them fake promises.

Aren't most of the companies in the world like that? capitalism is the core of a corporate.

Sure, but part of having & wanting privacy in your life is controlling how, or even if, you feed these companies who are heavily profitting off of people who are completely unaware (or just plainly don't care). It would be one thing if they paid you for your data, but you get harvested without any compensation.

Well that's that we can't do anything about them and honestly i think we need stricter privacy protection laws and the right to know what are phones are transmitting over the internet and where to.

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

I had not heard about this, but I don't put much stock into anything Apple does as they are a major surveillance capitalist company who utilizes their user base as data livestock while selling them fake promises.

Aren't most of the companies in the world like that? capitalism is the core of a corporate.

Sure, but part of having & wanting privacy in your life is controlling how, or even if, you feed these companies who are heavily profitting off of people who are completely unaware (or just plainly don't care). It would be one thing if they paid you for your data, but you get harvested without any compensation.

Truer words have never been spoken. I mean it's only fair that we be compensated. Controlling data is not possible for everyone.

noob404 · November 2024

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@noob404 said:

@chitree said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

Have you used Graphene before?

I've been daily driving it for 4 or 5 years now - it's great!

Oh wow, that's awesome. What would your review be? Like it's deGoogled and misses out on a lot of stuff. How was the migration?

I would highly recommend it to others who want the best privacy and security on an Android phone.

Every phone still does suffer from the "blackbox" which we can not see into - the phone antenna & modem. Only way to solve that is to not use a phone

Makes complete sense. BTW, did you read this - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/apples-new-patent-shows-airpods-with-brain-wave-detecting-sensors/articleshow/102278175.cms or know about this?

And also is Apple doing this "because they care" or is really because they want to harvest that data about people too?

You know the answer to that question very well.

TrK · November 2024

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Man, I was engulfed in the convo that I got distracted. Gotta go. What do you guys think? Will we have a GA today at the same time as yesterday?

There's always a possibility, all we need is HYPE!

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