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Jar saves the day, MyW to continue (WAS MyW is closing doors)

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  • @agxl said: I agree with you 100%. It was the same for me. I bought three Lifetime Resellers and didn't use one of them properly.

    Me too... DE, LA & SG

    Thanked by 1agxl
  • @shafire said:
    I just want to understand it properly: If you could bridge the time until your new full-time job, would you continue with this project?

    Yes I would, that's why I spent personal savings last month renewing the servers.

  • @o_be_one said:

    @MikePT said: While I appreciate it, I'm a 34 year old adult, and I should be responsible for the mess I create.

    The last job I had, I lost it due to my stupidity - losing the job, now MyW and everything because I just can't handle everything financially wise, no source of income.

    Hey mate, watch out you mental health! This is a warn sign as everything is falling appart at this time. Everything falling always come up stronger later! Hope you will recover, take care of yourself, one step at a time. Good luck MikePT!

    Adding that I'm part of most people here: we still want you around and I'll also add I wish to see you coming back with a new adventure with more "lesson learned" secured offers ˆˆ. I understand for now it's all negative and you are pretty sure you will not come back as provider, which is valid as well :).

    It's very hard for me lately, because I and my ex split in January, a 9 year old relationship, with 2 kids.

    Now the job loss, back in August, it's just... Tough.

    I was doing therapy but had to stop it due to the lack of funds.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @seenu said:

    @MikePT said: Sorted it for all servers.

    All working except one site, it keep throwing same error

    🚀 Started transferring 'User'. 🚀
    😭 Couldn't contact DirectAdmin to queue a backup: bad HTTP Status: 500 Internal Server Error 😭
    

    Try to see if there are further logs, most likely, permission issues?

    @emgh said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @shafire said: I just want to understand it properly: If you could bridge the time until your new full-time job, would you continue with this project?

    What’s the point of doing this if it hasn’t been really profitable even after all these years? What would a few more months change?
    If you need a full-time job to sustain another job, why would want that? To me, it would just seem like prolonged struggling, waiting for another shit to hit the fan.

    It seems to me the MAIN issue is the cost side of things.

    He had IP subnets, expensive servers, etc.

    At the same time, it seems most of the clients are either hosting small hobby stuff, or, aren't using it at all.

    I don't have any insider info here, but to me it seems like costs could have been cut SIGNIFICANTLY if done in time and maybe it would even have been possible to turn it around and have it generate a small side income.

    He probably had visions of doing something bigger with it, and when the job couldn't finance that anymore, he wasn't quick enough to adjust costs accordingly.

    Obviously, I've been wrong before. Could be wrong now as well.

    If I had time I could cut the costs a bit, yes, but I have no more time, everything is due.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @kkrajk said:

    @agxl said: I agree with you 100%. It was the same for me. I bought three Lifetime Resellers and didn't use one of them properly.

    Me too... DE, LA & SG

    I am deeply sorry for what I'm causing to you guys.

    Thanked by 1kkrajk
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    I can barely see through the crust on my eyes as I'm waking up, so I confess I stopped reading the thread a bit of the way in. If nothing has yet occurred to keep this all running, I am willing to absorb what exists and either give it's death a longer trajectory with excessive notice to customers, or keep it running. However, the former is more likely. If this is acceptable, I can have all of the bills paid by end of day.

  • @MikePT said: Try to see if there are further logs, most likely, permission issues?

    issue solved, seems no space exists in user account for backup.... increased space and no transferred done successfully. 👍

    Thanked by 2Ympker MikePT
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jar said:
    I can barely see through the crust on my eyes as I'm waking up, so I confess I stopped reading the thread a bit of the way in. If nothing has yet occurred to keep this all running, I am willing to absorb what exists and either give it's death a longer trajectory with excessive notice to customers, or keep it running. However, the former is more likely. If this is acceptable, I can have all of the bills paid by end of day.

    After having done the same to NexusBytes clients, and now this... I have never personally been a client of those companies, but I'm sure those who have been are incredibly thankful.

    Thank you for making this place a lot better Jarland <3

    @MikePT Let this guy help you out! :)

  • @emgh said: It seems to me the MAIN issue is the cost side of things.

    He had IP subnets, expensive servers, etc.

    At the same time, it seems most of the clients are either hosting small hobby stuff, or, aren't using it at all.

    I don't have any insider info here, but to me it seems like costs could have been cut SIGNIFICANTLY if done in time and maybe it would even have been possible to turn it around and have it generate a small side income.

    He probably had visions of doing something bigger with it, and when the job couldn't finance that anymore, he wasn't quick enough to adjust costs accordingly.

    Obviously, I've been wrong before. Could be wrong now as well.

    Yeah, but there’s no magic wand that would suddenly turn all those lifetime accounts (where money has already been spent) and ultra-cheap yearly plans into monthly paying clients.
    If it wasn’t sustainable after all these years, what would change in a few months? It would require just more and more lifetime deals just to keep going with old lifetime clients.
    Financial injections from a full-time job just mean keeping the company on life support. This might make sense when a company is still young and growing, but after all these years... it's just a struggle, in my opinion.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited September 2024

    @seenu said: 🚀 Started transferring 'User'. 🚀
    😭 Couldn't contact DirectAdmin to queue a backup: bad HTTP Status: 500 Internal Server Error 😭

    Could be we're hammering his DirectAdmin with backup requests and it cacked itself.

    Francisco

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @rcy026 said:

    @MikePT said:

    Thank you for the kind words but after this, I think no one will want to see me here.

    That's bullshit.

    First of all, shit happens. You tried your best and for many years you provided excellent services for very close to free. I lost two lifetime services I've had with you for several years but the way I see it I got my moneys worth during the first few months anyway so I cant complain.
    Second, you are a part of the community, not just a provider. You are a member of the community and even a moderator, closing your business will not change that. Your tagline might have to drop the "Host Rep" bit, but nothing else has changed.

    And lets not forget that you are here, owning your failure and standing up for yourself. There is absolutely no shame in failing if you own it and learn from it.

    I for one hope that we will continue to have you as a member of the LET community, it would be a big loss for us all if we didn't.

    Agree to this point :) Shit happens, and Mike didn't pull a Bob.> @Francisco said:

    @seenu said: 🚀 Started transferring 'User'. 🚀
    😭 Couldn't contact DirectAdmin to queue a backup: bad HTTP Status: 500 Internal Server Error 😭

    Could be we're hammering his DirectAdmin with backup requests and it cacked itself.

    Francisco

    When I transferred to Namecrame a couple of days earlier it worked just fine. Might be indeed the case.

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @Francisco said: Could be we're hammering his DirectAdmin with backup requests and it cacked itself.

    Might be worth looking into some rate limits per IP resolved so that your tool dosen't get used for DDoS :D

    Edit: Maybe not, since the requests could just be made by the attacker directly... nvm.

  • @jar said:
    I can barely see through the crust on my eyes as I'm waking up, so I confess I stopped reading the thread a bit of the way in. If nothing has yet occurred to keep this all running, I am willing to absorb what exists and either give it's death a longer trajectory with excessive notice to customers, or keep it running. However, the former is more likely. If this is acceptable, I can have all of the bills paid by end of day.

    LowEndRescue: jar awakens

  • @MikePT wouldn't mind consolidating the whole sevice to DE if that is even remotely possible

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • @MikePT said:

    @o_be_one said:

    @MikePT said: While I appreciate it, I'm a 34 year old adult, and I should be responsible for the mess I create.

    The last job I had, I lost it due to my stupidity - losing the job, now MyW and everything because I just can't handle everything financially wise, no source of income.

    Hey mate, watch out you mental health! This is a warn sign as everything is falling appart at this time. Everything falling always come up stronger later! Hope you will recover, take care of yourself, one step at a time. Good luck MikePT!

    Adding that I'm part of most people here: we still want you around and I'll also add I wish to see you coming back with a new adventure with more "lesson learned" secured offers ˆˆ. I understand for now it's all negative and you are pretty sure you will not come back as provider, which is valid as well :).

    It's very hard for me lately, because I and my ex split in January, a 9 year old relationship, with 2 kids.

    Now the job loss, back in August, it's just... Tough.

    I was doing therapy but had to stop it due to the lack of funds.

    Oh man that terribly sucks (I guessed about break up :(). In Portugal is there also some non profit organization to support mental health? This exists in France and in Canada, I'd be surprised if it was missing in Portugal. I understand you may be low energy at this time so take your time this is valid emotion. Hope you have some close friends also watching on you and providing support!

    Thanked by 2MikePT OhJohn
  • @jar said:
    I can barely see through the crust on my eyes as I'm waking up, so I confess I stopped reading the thread a bit of the way in. If nothing has yet occurred to keep this all running, I am willing to absorb what exists and either give it's death a longer trajectory with excessive notice to customers, or keep it running. However, the former is more likely. If this is acceptable, I can have all of the bills paid by end of day.

    Thanked by 2emgh Ympker
  • @jar said:
    I can barely see through the crust on my eyes as I'm waking up, so I confess I stopped reading the thread a bit of the way in. If nothing has yet occurred to keep this all running, I am willing to absorb what exists and either give it's death a longer trajectory with excessive notice to customers, or keep it running. However, the former is more likely. If this is acceptable, I can have all of the bills paid by end of day.

    In my opinion it is very hard to save this @jar because of too many lifetime packages. Solution is to buy some time for customers to transfer data towards other providers as courtesy (some already transfer towards NameCrane).

    Ask @MikePT for more details, but if you can find a way to incorporate it into MXRoute, that would be truly awesome. However, I doubt this is possible with all the active lifetime plans.

    Thanked by 3jar Ympker MikePT
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @default said:

    @jar said:
    I can barely see through the crust on my eyes as I'm waking up, so I confess I stopped reading the thread a bit of the way in. If nothing has yet occurred to keep this all running, I am willing to absorb what exists and either give it's death a longer trajectory with excessive notice to customers, or keep it running. However, the former is more likely. If this is acceptable, I can have all of the bills paid by end of day.

    In my opinion it is very hard to save this @jar because of too many lifetime packages. Solution is to buy some time for customers to transfer data towards other providers as courtesy (some already transfer towards NameCrane).

    Ask @MikePT for more details, but if you can find a way to incorporate it into MXRoute, that would be truly awesome. However, I doubt this is possible with all the active lifetime plans.

    Aye. I've got a fair number of them myself but it's extremely important that they be kept to sustainable levels. I suspect this brand would be above that, but I've not much room to talk as anyone could assume the same of me and all is fair in assumptions.

    But if you keep the services online and up to date, don't accept new orders, and make strong expectations of reduced support I'm sure this would be easily propped up for a year.

  • no one you can trust in LET, specially "lifetime plan". in the late 2023 I was ready to pay your lifetime reseller service. fortunately I never finish the payment. thanks god for saving me 🥳

  • @thechan said:
    no one you can trust in LET, specially "lifetime plan". in the late 2023 I was ready to pay your lifetime reseller service. fortunately I never finish the payment. thanks god for saving me 🥳

    I've been using lifetime since 2020, so I got more than enough for the money. It really depends on how much time did you get out of the offer.

    Now the only thing I'm waiting is an agreement between Mike and jar. That would be awesome. I hope Mike can make MyW happen!

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited September 2024

    @jar said:

    @default said:

    @jar said:
    I can barely see through the crust on my eyes as I'm waking up, so I confess I stopped reading the thread a bit of the way in. If nothing has yet occurred to keep this all running, I am willing to absorb what exists and either give it's death a longer trajectory with excessive notice to customers, or keep it running. However, the former is more likely. If this is acceptable, I can have all of the bills paid by end of day.

    In my opinion it is very hard to save this @jar because of too many lifetime packages. Solution is to buy some time for customers to transfer data towards other providers as courtesy (some already transfer towards NameCrane).

    Ask @MikePT for more details, but if you can find a way to incorporate it into MXRoute, that would be truly awesome. However, I doubt this is possible with all the active lifetime plans.

    Aye. I've got a fair number of them myself but it's extremely important that they be kept to sustainable levels. I suspect this brand would be above that, but I've not much room to talk as anyone could assume the same of me and all is fair in assumptions.

    But if you keep the services online and up to date, don't accept new orders, and make strong expectations of reduced support I'm sure this would be easily propped up for a year.

    Another idea would be to grab the whole MyW brand and hire the guy to manage it. This way he can still be a manager, and you will be perceived as saviour.

    Lifetimes could be declared as without support (unless critical downtime) and squeezed into their own server. Meanwhile you get to sell hosting powered by MXRoute. I don't know if hosting industry ever tempted you to get into it, but this would be a good start. Besides, you had Miguel working with you and learning from you in the past.

    Thanked by 4jar ikibsys MikePT kkrajk
  • Didn't even notice that my LTD hadn't been rebuilt after the migration, LOL. That's why I came to LET this place.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Bummer.

    Anyone else remember when @MikePT had a 24- (or was it 48-) hour livestream event where people submitted graphic design jobs (logo, etc.) and you got to watch him and the crew work on your orders in their office? The camera was continuously up the whole time.
    I seem to recall them periodically putting up signs that said "Hi LET!" and other things.

    You've got a lot of history here, @MikePT, so don't be going anywhere.

  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited September 2024

    @default said:

    @jar said:

    @default said:

    @jar said:
    I can barely see through the crust on my eyes as I'm waking up, so I confess I stopped reading the thread a bit of the way in. If nothing has yet occurred to keep this all running, I am willing to absorb what exists and either give it's death a longer trajectory with excessive notice to customers, or keep it running. However, the former is more likely. If this is acceptable, I can have all of the bills paid by end of day.

    In my opinion it is very hard to save this @jar because of too many lifetime packages. Solution is to buy some time for customers to transfer data towards other providers as courtesy (some already transfer towards NameCrane).

    Ask @MikePT for more details, but if you can find a way to incorporate it into MXRoute, that would be truly awesome. However, I doubt this is possible with all the active lifetime plans.

    Aye. I've got a fair number of them myself but it's extremely important that they be kept to sustainable levels. I suspect this brand would be above that, but I've not much room to talk as anyone could assume the same of me and all is fair in assumptions.

    But if you keep the services online and up to date, don't accept new orders, and make strong expectations of reduced support I'm sure this would be easily propped up for a year.

    Another idea would be to grab the whole MyW brand and hire the guy to manage it. This way he can still be a manager, and you will be perceived as saviour.

    Lifetimes could be declared as without support (unless critical downtime) and squeezed into their own server. Meanwhile you get to sell hosting powered by MXRoute. I don't know if hosting industry ever tempted you to get into it, but this would be a good start. Besides, you had Miguel working with you and learning from you in the past.

    It's probably pretty hard to keep the lifetimes sustainable as they are.
    For example, ZAP Hosting succeeds in doing so, because they have the numbers.
    Their website reads: "25667+ Active servers, 5310+ Active Lifetime Servers".
    So for one, lifetime services seem to "only" account for 20% of all services, meaning they've got 80% services that are billed on a regular basis. On the other hand they've got a large team and are an established company that has been operating for many years and has an active community (on Discord/Socials). Mike was alone running all this and even though he often mentioned that he also had clients that paid monthly/yearly those clearly weren't enough to sustain the lifetimes. Adding dedicated IPv4s to that is a dangerous gamble. Didn't OVH also remove one-off IPv4s for dedis?

  • Very unfortunate. I had a customer of mine get the service a month or two back. Definitely they didn't get "lifetime" service. Get what you pay for I guess ... lesson learned.

    Thanked by 1c1vhosting
  • risharderisharde Host Rep, Veteran
    edited September 2024

    @MikePT said:

    @o_be_one said:

    @MikePT said: While I appreciate it, I'm a 34 year old adult, and I should be responsible for the mess I create.

    The last job I had, I lost it due to my stupidity - losing the job, now MyW and everything because I just can't handle everything financially wise, no source of income.

    Hey mate, watch out you mental health! This is a warn sign as everything is falling appart at this time. Everything falling always come up stronger later! Hope you will recover, take care of yourself, one step at a time. Good luck MikePT!

    Adding that I'm part of most people here: we still want you around and I'll also add I wish to see you coming back with a new adventure with more "lesson learned" secured offers ˆˆ. I understand for now it's all negative and you are pretty sure you will not come back as provider, which is valid as well :).

    It's very hard for me lately, because I and my ex split in January, a 9 year old relationship, with 2 kids.

    Now the job loss, back in August, it's just... Tough.

    I was doing therapy but had to stop it due to the lack of funds.

    From what you've said here, I do really wish you the best to be able to recover from what has happened to you in life @MikePT - I'll say in the grand scheme of things considering what you've said you're experiencing and experienced and because kids are involved as well - it's better that you're alive and well than my $150 USD and I really mean that. You definitely have my forgiveness not that you've asked for this or need it.

    May God's grace and love be upon you and your family 🙏

    Thanked by 3loay MikePT Xrmaddness
  • @raindog308 said: Anyone else remember when @MikePT had a 24- (or was it 48-) hour livestream...

    ...and then all those years when he was known by the alias MrGeneral, hanging out in #xenvz and #frantech IRC. That was almost 15 years ago.

  • @Mumbly said:

    @raindog308 said: Anyone else remember when @MikePT had a 24- (or was it 48-) hour livestream...

    ...and then all those years when he was known by the alias MrGeneral, hanging out in #xenvz and #frantech IRC. That was almost 15 years ago.

    @MikePT also helped me fix some corrupted database years ago when I was still a LET freshman. We never want to see you leave, @MikePT <3

  • AndreiPerjuAndreiPerju Member, Host Rep

    @MikePT said: Until the end of the year?

    A lot... :-), we're talking of around 800-900€/mo for the full infrastructure.

    Check PM please.

    Thanked by 2MikePT Xrmaddness
  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited September 2024

    Wait, do I have an imposter, or Vanilla just buggy? :lol:

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