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Jar saves the day, MyW to continue (WAS MyW is closing doors)

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  • I'm in talks with @SGraf and @host_c , at least for backup space to keep the backups for a few months in case someone needs it.

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Guys, give it a tiny bit of time. Currently in talks and we are trying to see if we can do something.

    Though usually if SGraf take over they will increase the price (Just look at MrVM/NatVM), so I dont have high hopes

  • @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:
    Focus on what really matters the family and get a full time job asap. You would have your veteran place here and in LES and hostedtalk. Take care and good luck.in the Life. Kind regards

    Thank you for the kind words but after this, I think no one will want to see me here.

    Meh . You would always have a space Into the community. If someone has loved you Into the good times they must Accept that they can not hate you when you need some help when having bad time. Or at least being neutral meanwhile the storm.is.taken place. My personal opinión at least. Take care and Focus on the family

    Thanked by 3MikePT bdl Xrmaddness
  • @default said: The lack of success with MyW is on your shoulders. This is disappointing as it involves something called "trust". I hoped to see a success with a company becoming great and maybe sell one day when manager gets successfully bored or drunk. Instead I see an exit of a manager who can't pay the bills and did not manage to invest the money from lifetimes. Sad. Just sad.

    i calculated expenses for 1 node and that could be anywhere beyond $200+ including licences, firewalls, and extrnal backup storage. And Mike had 3 nodes.. so its was around in range of somewhere near $800-$1000 or bit more per month to pay rent/fees.

    @MikePT

    I though initally signed something 4 years back for a lifetime plan and hosted production sites, and services and support was all good.

    1. Had it been a provider who offers lifetime only one single node/location while getting revenue flow from other node/locations without lifetime plans and/or adding VPS or other services that can compensate the $200 to $250 every month of the "lifetime node" then that would be a feasible operation for more longer time that we can call as "lifetime" like 10 years or beyond.

    2. And my take on "lifetime" is like.. a web host should rather offer "long term plans" like $50 for every 5 years instead of lifetime. In this way, even if the host cloes a shop or long-term deal then customers will not find themselves been cheated or scam.

    this thing we as a community should learn.

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:
    Focus on what really matters the family and get a full time job asap. You would have your veteran place here and in LES and hostedtalk. Take care and good luck.in the Life. Kind regards

    Thank you for the kind words but after this, I think no one will want to see me here.

    Meh . You would always have a space Into the community. If someone has loved you Into the good times they must Accept that they can not hate you when you need some help when having bad time. Or at least being neutral meanwhile the storm.is.taken place. My personal opinión at least. Take care and Focus on the family

    Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate the kind words.
    Last month and this month are being way too rough, the job offers I get aren't enough for me to live, my rent itself is a lot of money, Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited September 2024

    @FAT32 said:

    Guys, give it a tiny bit of time. Currently in talks and we are trying to see if we can do something.

    Though usually if SGraf take over they will increase the price (Just look at MrVM/NatVM), so I dont have high hopes

    Well, to be fair, Mike said (and we all sort of knew) that the business wasn't profitable at the rate it was being run. If @SGraf takes over, services might be renewed at a very discounted rate or even free for the first year/months, so people have time to choose to stay, or move on. I fear, some poor souls won't check their emails or LES/LET all the time and will have a bad awakening when the lights go out. If @SGraf can at all contribute to keeping servers up, by all means, I'm sure many people will be grateful.

    Thanked by 2MikePT default
  • SGrafSGraf Member, Patron Provider

    @FAT32 said:

    Guys, give it a tiny bit of time. Currently in talks and we are trying to see if we can do something.

    Though usually if SGraf take over they will increase the price (Just look at MrVM/NatVM), so I dont have high hopes

    Some stuff is on a case by case basis. I'm against the notion of "its a guaranteed price increase". MrVM, was quite a loss when i acquired it. A year after taking it over, its no longer loosing money. Its not super profitable but sustainable and i am able to deploy hardware in new locations (recently: Frankfurt) to broaden the service offers and ensure that the project is going forward. I have two more locations in the works over the next few months.

    Regarding MyW, i think the monthlies are looking realistic (and i do not have monthly plans for sitetide yet - so i am thinking that there wont be too many changes to that). Currently looking at what the options for the lifetime parts are.

    Thanked by 3MikePT ikibsys Ouji
  • @JasonM said:

    @default said: The lack of success with MyW is on your shoulders. This is disappointing as it involves something called "trust". I hoped to see a success with a company becoming great and maybe sell one day when manager gets successfully bored or drunk. Instead I see an exit of a manager who can't pay the bills and did not manage to invest the money from lifetimes. Sad. Just sad.

    i calculated expenses for 1 node and that could be anywhere beyond $200+ including licences, firewalls, and extrnal backup storage. And Mike had 3 nodes.. so its was around in range of somewhere near $800-$1000 or bit more per month to pay rent/fees.

    @MikePT

    I though initally signed something 4 years back for a lifetime plan and hosted production sites, and services and support was all good.

    1. Had it been a provider who offers lifetime only one single node/location while getting revenue flow from other node/locations without lifetime plans and/or adding VPS or other services that can compensate the $200 to $250 every month of the "lifetime node" then that would be a feasible operation for more longer time that we can call as "lifetime" like 10 years or beyond.

    2. And my take on "lifetime" is like.. a web host should rather offer "long term plans" like $50 for every 5 years instead of lifetime. In this way, even if the host cloes a shop or long-term deal then customers will not find themselves been cheated or scam.

    this thing we as a community should learn.

    Yes I had plans to bring other products for MyW, the revenue is bad there, and I accept I've done a big mistake. I had managed clients and a full-time job, always had a job to be fair, and it was covering everything. MyW was my biggest investment here, to try to get into the hosting industry.
    Done a mistake, I'm only good in the industry for support and Sysadmin, other than that, I really don't fit managing a business.

  • @host_c said:

    @MikePT said:

    @host_c said:

    @MikePT said: Less than 1k per month. I don't feel comfortable sharing the numbers though.

    Don't share inside info. :+1:

    I had a chat with my minions, this is what we came up:

    We can provide you a VPS, as large as you want, free of charge, if you wish to backup any projects regarding your business.

    If you think this might help, DM me and we go from there.

    Hey,

    The only data we'd want to backup is full backups for our customers, just in case, if that's possible, then I'd appreciate it, even if you can do it for a month.

    sure, even for 12MO if you wish.

    DM me details on the capacity you need.

    this is why i want to give you more money! top class

  • no one should land in the situation to be unable to make rent. hope you get back on your feet quicker than your business' demise.

    however "lifetime plans" have always been an undependable ponzi-ish model and should not have been advertised without solid finances and bcp to back it up.

    that aside its important to literally keep your lights on and all the best on that. life's tough everywhere and hope this stirs some real entrepreneurial survivial spirit to get things sorted.

    Thanked by 1mwt
  • @mw said: lifetime always means lifetime of the product

    undisclosed time aka fake and gay.

  • fredo1664fredo1664 Member
    edited September 2024

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

    I did some work in Lisbon a few years ago and could always find cheap enough appartments to rent for a few weeks. My work asked me to go to Lisbon again for a couple of days next month so I looked up the prices and I was shocked!!!

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • @fredo1664 said:

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

    I did some work in Lisbon a few years ago and could always find cheap enough appartments to rent for a few weeks. My work asked me to go to Lisbon again for a couple of days next month so I looked up the prices and I was shocked!!!

    north or south? :p

  • @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:
    Focus on what really matters the family and get a full time job asap. You would have your veteran place here and in LES and hostedtalk. Take care and good luck.in the Life. Kind regards

    Thank you for the kind words but after this, I think no one will want to see me here.

    Meh . You would always have a space Into the community. If someone has loved you Into the good times they must Accept that they can not hate you when you need some help when having bad time. Or at least being neutral meanwhile the storm.is.taken place. My personal opinión at least. Take care and Focus on the family

    Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate the kind words.
    Last month and this month are being way too rough, the job offers I get aren't enough for me to live, my rent itself is a lot of money, Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

    Move to Spain IS AN option. Cheaper in some places than crazy Portugal rent. You could get a small apartment for cheapo or a small rent. Outside of the main cities true but for cheapo.You could get some work online so It IS another option to be considered. If you are looking for some advice i could get you more info just pm where to look etc regions Price ratio etc. Anyway you are a great person so i would repeat It you could have place Into the community so no worries about It.

    Thanked by 1mw
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    I mean not to be mean but it's not that surprising. Web hosting is crowded, there wasn't anything majorly unique about the offerings and lifetime deals turned a lot of people off.

    Good luck anyway, and I really mean that!

    Thanked by 2MikePT TODO
  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited September 2024

    While I don't do lifetime offers, if anyone with Mike's shared plan (not reseller) wants a cheap alternative with Dallas and Germany locations, PM me proof you have an account and I'll give you a deal to bring my base 10GB NVMe SPanel plan under $10/y. Uptime is practically 100% for the years, the control panel experience is good, and there's no hard resource caps.

    Lifetime plans are never going to make money, so you can't buy one and expect it to last forever, so you can't be mad at him for buying and it not lasting a decade. People have to pay bills, have to eat, and have to not go mentally insane from providing support and getting 5 cents in return. Anyone who's been here for years knows Mike is a respectable person (also because his name is Mike.)

  • @cybertech said:
    no one should land in the situation to be unable to make rent. hope you get back on your feet quicker than your business' demise.

    however "lifetime plans" have always been an undependable ponzi-ish model and should not have been advertised without solid finances and bcp to back it up.

    that aside its important to literally keep your lights on and all the best on that. life's tough everywhere and hope this stirs some real entrepreneurial survivial spirit to get things sorted.

    I had several job offers, and applied to many, sadly, most think that Portugal is cheap, it's not, it hasn't been cheap for many years.

  • @fredo1664 said:

    @MikePT said:
    Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

    I did some work in Lisbon a few years ago and could always find cheap enough appartments to rent for a few weeks. My work asked me to go to Lisbon again for a couple of days next month so I looked up the prices and I was shocked!!!

    Around 6 years ago, rents: 500€
    Right now: 1000€

    Oh if that's in Lisbon, jumped from around 900€ to 1800€+

  • @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:
    Focus on what really matters the family and get a full time job asap. You would have your veteran place here and in LES and hostedtalk. Take care and good luck.in the Life. Kind regards

    Thank you for the kind words but after this, I think no one will want to see me here.

    Meh . You would always have a space Into the community. If someone has loved you Into the good times they must Accept that they can not hate you when you need some help when having bad time. Or at least being neutral meanwhile the storm.is.taken place. My personal opinión at least. Take care and Focus on the family

    Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate the kind words.
    Last month and this month are being way too rough, the job offers I get aren't enough for me to live, my rent itself is a lot of money, Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

    Move to Spain IS AN option. Cheaper in some places than crazy Portugal rent. You could get a small apartment for cheapo or a small rent. Outside of the main cities true but for cheapo.You could get some work online so It IS another option to be considered. If you are looking for some advice i could get you more info just pm where to look etc regions Price ratio etc. Anyway you are a great person so i would repeat It you could have place Into the community so no worries about It.

    I'm a single father and have shared custody, no matter what, I'll never leave my kids, nor the shared custody.

  • @emgh said:
    I mean not to be mean but it's ont that surprising. Web hosting is crowded, there wasn't anything majorly unique about the offerings and lifetime deals turned a lot of people off.

    Good luck anyway, and I really mean that!

    Lesson learned, and I understand and agree with any criticism, I failed on everyone here.

    Thanked by 2emgh cybertech
  • cybertechcybertech Member
    edited September 2024

    @MikePT said:

    @cybertech said:
    no one should land in the situation to be unable to make rent. hope you get back on your feet quicker than your business' demise.

    however "lifetime plans" have always been an undependable ponzi-ish model and should not have been advertised without solid finances and bcp to back it up.

    that aside its important to literally keep your lights on and all the best on that. life's tough everywhere and hope this stirs some real entrepreneurial survivial spirit to get things sorted.

    I had several job offers, and applied to many, sadly, most think that Portugal is cheap, it's not, it hasn't been cheap for many years.

    wouldn't know how's the situation in Portugal but perhaps temporarily working in the food industry or any gigs for now can help with fast cash? might be the time to be open-minded until stability arrives.

  • any refugee deal for SG location? :'(

  • @SGraf said:

    @FAT32 said:

    Guys, give it a tiny bit of time. Currently in talks and we are trying to see if we can do something.

    Though usually if SGraf take over they will increase the price (Just look at MrVM/NatVM), so I dont have high hopes

    Some stuff is on a case by case basis. I'm against the notion of "its a guaranteed price increase". MrVM, was quite a loss when i acquired it. A year after taking it over, its no longer loosing money. Its not super profitable but sustainable and i am able to deploy hardware in new locations (recently: Frankfurt) to broaden the service offers and ensure that the project is going forward. I have two more locations in the works over the next few months.

    Regarding MyW, i think the monthlies are looking realistic (and i do not have monthly plans for sitetide yet - so i am thinking that there wont be too many changes to that). Currently looking at what the options for the lifetime parts are.

    As a suggestion, to be able to hire dedicated ip, to maintain the plans conditioned to have another service contracted with the company. To be able to contract more disk space... These are, from the outside and without evaluating costs, options for lifetime plans.

    @mikept , life are stages, periods and learning, fall and get up again. You will count in the future, with all those who until the last moment we have supported in this community. Sad day and unfortunately, part of life and business. I hope that soon your situation will improve. Personally and then, in whatever you do.

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:
    Focus on what really matters the family and get a full time job asap. You would have your veteran place here and in LES and hostedtalk. Take care and good luck.in the Life. Kind regards

    Thank you for the kind words but after this, I think no one will want to see me here.

    Meh . You would always have a space Into the community. If someone has loved you Into the good times they must Accept that they can not hate you when you need some help when having bad time. Or at least being neutral meanwhile the storm.is.taken place. My personal opinión at least. Take care and Focus on the family

    Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate the kind words.
    Last month and this month are being way too rough, the job offers I get aren't enough for me to live, my rent itself is a lot of money, Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

    Move to Spain IS AN option. Cheaper in some places than crazy Portugal rent. You could get a small apartment for cheapo or a small rent. Outside of the main cities true but for cheapo.You could get some work online so It IS another option to be considered. If you are looking for some advice i could get you more info just pm where to look etc regions Price ratio etc. Anyway you are a great person so i would repeat It you could have place Into the community so no worries about It.

    I'm a single father and have shared custody, no matter what, I'll never leave my kids, nor the shared custody.

    Sorry to hear that .i was not aware of that
    but well on the portuguése border You could find some bargain at less than 400 euros/monthly for a decent flat. So you could travel by car to Portugal in no time. Just saying to help you somehow. It IS Up to you.

  • Guys, he has been without a job for almost 2 months now. He has tried to approach everyone he knows for a job but isn't getting any good offers. I know he worked in a local restaurant a couple of days back just to make food. It's hard, he will bounce back.

    Thanked by 2host_c Marx
  • @MikePT said:

    I'm a single father and have shared custody, no matter what, I'll never leave my kids, nor the shared custody.

    Lesson learned, and I understand and agree with any criticism, I failed on everyone here.

    someone help this man here; he deserves better.

  • @dynamo1 said:
    Guys, he has been without a job for almost 2 months now. He has tried to approach everyone he knows for a job but isn't getting any good offers. I know he worked in a local restaurant a couple of days back just to make food. It's hard, he will bounce back.

    I have no idea how you know that, but that's 100% true (expect it wasn't a restaurant, more like a pub). I tried to keep things online for as long as I could, and even my last month's money was spent on renewing servers.

    @cybertech said:

    @MikePT said:

    @cybertech said:
    no one should land in the situation to be unable to make rent. hope you get back on your feet quicker than your business' demise.

    however "lifetime plans" have always been an undependable ponzi-ish model and should not have been advertised without solid finances and bcp to back it up.

    that aside its important to literally keep your lights on and all the best on that. life's tough everywhere and hope this stirs some real entrepreneurial survivial spirit to get things sorted.

    I had several job offers, and applied to many, sadly, most think that Portugal is cheap, it's not, it hasn't been cheap for many years.

    wouldn't know how's the situation in Portugal but perhaps temporarily working in the food industry or any gigs for now can help with fast cash? might be the time to be open-minded until stability arrives.

    I'm in touch with several people from the hosting industry, doing my best here.

    @ikibsys said: @mikept , life are stages, periods and learning, fall and get up again. You will count in the future, with all those who until the last moment we have supported in this community. Sad day and unfortunately, part of life and business. I hope that soon your situation will improve. Personally and then, in whatever you do.

    There's something I learned recently: I forgot how to be humble, and I'm learning that again. I had a great salary for the past years, and very lucky to always have a job, even moving from one company to another as I had better offers, but I forgot how to be humble.

    Thanked by 2emgh TODO
  • @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:
    Focus on what really matters the family and get a full time job asap. You would have your veteran place here and in LES and hostedtalk. Take care and good luck.in the Life. Kind regards

    Thank you for the kind words but after this, I think no one will want to see me here.

    Meh . You would always have a space Into the community. If someone has loved you Into the good times they must Accept that they can not hate you when you need some help when having bad time. Or at least being neutral meanwhile the storm.is.taken place. My personal opinión at least. Take care and Focus on the family

    Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate the kind words.
    Last month and this month are being way too rough, the job offers I get aren't enough for me to live, my rent itself is a lot of money, Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

    Move to Spain IS AN option. Cheaper in some places than crazy Portugal rent. You could get a small apartment for cheapo or a small rent. Outside of the main cities true but for cheapo.You could get some work online so It IS another option to be considered. If you are looking for some advice i could get you more info just pm where to look etc regions Price ratio etc. Anyway you are a great person so i would repeat It you could have place Into the community so no worries about It.

    I'm a single father and have shared custody, no matter what, I'll never leave my kids, nor the shared custody.

    Sorry to hear that .i was not aware of that
    but well on the portuguése border You could find some bargain at less than 400 euros/monthly for a decent flat. So you could travel by car to Portugal in no time. Just saying to help you somehow. It IS Up to you.

    That's not an option sadly.

  • @cybertech said:

    @MikePT said:

    I'm a single father and have shared custody, no matter what, I'll never leave my kids, nor the shared custody.

    Lesson learned, and I understand and agree with any criticism, I failed on everyone here.

    someone help this man here; he deserves better.

    While I appreciate it, I'm a 34 year old adult, and I should be responsible for the mess I create.
    The last job I had, I lost it due to my stupidity - losing the job, now MyW and everything because I just can't handle everything financially wise, no source of income.

    I have a provider that occasionally helps with a few gigs, if it weren't them, MyW would have been gone sooner, and I wouldn't be able to eat. They are my superheros.

  • kuroitkuroit Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:

    @MikePT said:

    @Chievo said:
    Focus on what really matters the family and get a full time job asap. You would have your veteran place here and in LES and hostedtalk. Take care and good luck.in the Life. Kind regards

    Thank you for the kind words but after this, I think no one will want to see me here.

    Meh . You would always have a space Into the community. If someone has loved you Into the good times they must Accept that they can not hate you when you need some help when having bad time. Or at least being neutral meanwhile the storm.is.taken place. My personal opinión at least. Take care and Focus on the family

    Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate the kind words.
    Last month and this month are being way too rough, the job offers I get aren't enough for me to live, my rent itself is a lot of money, Portugal isn't a cheap country, used to be.

    Move to Spain IS AN option. Cheaper in some places than crazy Portugal rent. You could get a small apartment for cheapo or a small rent. Outside of the main cities true but for cheapo.You could get some work online so It IS another option to be considered. If you are looking for some advice i could get you more info just pm where to look etc regions Price ratio etc. Anyway you are a great person so i would repeat It you could have place Into the community so no worries about It.

    I'm a single father and have shared custody, no matter what, I'll never leave my kids, nor the shared custody.

    Sorry to hear that .i was not aware of that
    but well on the portuguése border You could find some bargain at less than 400 euros/monthly for a decent flat. So you could travel by car to Portugal in no time. Just saying to help you somehow. It IS Up to you.

    That's not an option sadly.

    Sorry to hear about your situation. Just left you a DM.
    Please let me know if I can be of any help!

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