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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!
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I agree that what happened is "misty" and that @Calin still hasn't been clear about how he moved money and whose money that was. My point is that you can't move money when the bank blocks it in a KYC/AML procedure, and that the client needs to do his part in the procedure too.
Also, @Calin shouldn't have promised no-KYC, but the customer shouldn't have asked for this either. So, in this matter they are both guilty IMHO.
Unless @Calin fucked up with moving money, I think the fair outcome would be that both Calin and GoSSD recognize they were equally wrong, meaning that Calin should pay back half of what was lost. Another solution is that Calin provides half of the services for the agreed period.
I asked the Luck Oracle whether @GoSSDHosting will get his cryptos back. The Luck Oracle has spoken
(www.luckoracle.com)
So, now what? How do we conclude something like this? The provider wants this thread closed.
I am sure he does. The freaking effrontery..
There's nothing this forum can do.
Calin will ask GoSSD to submit documents.
GoSSD can either submit or proceed with legal case which will require divulging more documents.
It's a dead end.
tbh, don't think you need luckoracle for this.
extactly!! Forum can't help in this, but just guide others and be aware of Romanian scammers!
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I have seen no evidence the bank has frozen the funds other than calin saying it.
I have seen evidence the funds are not frozen tho, as he sent a video to the OP of him logging into the bank portal and attempting a transfer, this after telling the OP for weeks prior he had no access to the funds.
Bank isnt going to let you log in and attempt a transfer from your home if said acct is frozen. He could have transferred it to anyone he wanted to.
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That happened because you don't read all thread , and you are here just for scandal
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So the funds were frozen at the time you sent OP the video and you attempted a transfer anyways? You wouldnt be able to even attempt a transfer if they were locked
What I am getting at is there is a period here where funds were not locked and you were free to do as u wished with them
You're really piece of work...
So much about your "guarantee" to give money back on Paypal or other crypto methods if something goes wrong.
Not surprised in the slightest.
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Will @raindog308 make another involucration video on how it started: with selling swap area as RAM (FastVDS), buying hardware from @cociu to open iHostArt, registration on father's name, basement racks in wooden frames, growth into a basement datacenter, movement to a proper datacenter, North Korea IPv6 location, a poor handling of $22.5k hit in cryptocurrency from a single customer, and the adventure is not even over yet.
This would be quite some saga in my opinion.
Bad boy wallet gets> @default said:
Do not forget first heist with a bit smaller sum of btc. That time apologetic crowd and crunchy dady helped him and all was swept under the rug. So this scam is #2. I guess it will stop at #69.
You do know that the almighty deity of this forum of mortals asked for Humans Only Please.
I might be wrong but I don't believe seeking KYC free hosting is illegal anywhere. If you know of any place where it is illegal, I'd like to learn about it.
I am human, but now you have me thinking. What if I am an AGI?
Check under "What constitutes the crime of money laundering in Romania?" :
https://sumsub.com/blog/aml-compliance-in-romania/
The short answer is, it depends.
"Exchanging or transferring criminal proceeds with intent to conceal or disguise their illicit origin;"
You keep saying that the cryto was tainted ,illegal or criminal proceeds where have you got this information?
Ok and what if these aren't criminal proceeds and you just like your privacy?
Also note that I said "seeking KYC free hosting", not "selling KYC free hosting". These 2 are not the same.
Where do I say that? Nowhere!
I guess that's okay, but the bank can still freeze the money and require proof of origin.
Sure the bank can do that, but this still does not excuse Calin's behavior. I am not sure why you keep using KYC as an excuse.
The customer (which still has not been proven to be a criminal), is allowed to legally and morally seek hosting that avoids KYC. The fact that in romania, it is illegal to launder "criminal proceeds" does not suddenly make it illegal or immoral to seek KYC free hosting.
If Calin did not agree to the refund in case of KYC before, then I would agree with you that it wouldn't be Calin's fault. But the customer specifically mentioned KYC, and Calin specifically mentioned that he would refund in case that happened. So Calin is aware of KYC and broke his word.
why was a bank involved when the customer chose crypto to avoid KYC
and why is that the customers problem?
Because if you need $20,000 worth of servers, you probably need to order from a supplier that doesn't take crypto.
oof thats not the customers problem
Which would be the invoice for for the hosting services and some kind of proof that the company does infact offer hosting services.
That’s not the issue. Calin was alledgedly structuring. GoSSD, in my opinion, was actively helping him do that by splitting the payment in like 10, and waiting for confirmation that everything went smoothly before sending the next.
The issue isn’t KYC-free payments, the issue is that Calin used a KYC platform, and GoSSD was probably very aware of the fact, hence why he and Calin structured the payments.
You can argue that what Calin did was wrong, but don’t argue that the deal wasn’t shady. Everything about this was shady. DMCA ignored will, as seen several times here on LET, have a tendency to very quickly turn shady.
Kinda Off topic but That Kind of supplier that Takes crypto exists. Just saying