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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!
GoSSDHosting
Member
So all this started when I had a customer who required bulk dedicated servers with some high-end configurations. He asked for a DMCA-ignored region, and since we don’t usually provide such services, we decided to resell from another provider.
We approached a lot of providers, and only @calin quoted us $22,500 for 3 months' payment for this order.
The client was paying us in crypto, so we told Calin that we would use the same crypto to make the payment. He said crypto was perfectly fine, but requested we send it in parts because of previous issues that most of us are aware of. He even said if anything goes "wrong" he would refund me the entire amount on his own.
We sent the payments (in parts) and confirmed each payment with him, asking whether he had withdrawn each to his bank account or not. He said yes, and we made the next payment, and so on. Only $2,000 was paid via PayPal.
The payments were completed by July 13. He stated that the delivery time would be 14 days after payment. However, after 3-4 days, he told us that when we transferred funds to his supplier, the bank had blocked the transaction and was asking for a declaration, or more specifically, the source of the funds.
Calin asked us to get a bank statement from the client as evidence that he had purchased the crypto using his bank account. We asked for the statements, and they sent us two statements. We created a declaration document for the bank to better understand the situation, showing that we are the resellers in the middle. The document had our customer’s name, and a all details showing how the funds were transferred (customer -> reseller -> Calin/Man Hosting). It also included our invoice to the client, the invoice we paid to Calin, and bank statements.
I don’t know what Calin did, but he only submitted the bank statements. Since then, he has been making random excuses. After tolerating this for a month, we decided to ask for a refund, which he said the bank was okay with, provided it was refunded to the same person. We asked him to see if the bank could refund us directly, but he said the refund was only possible to the client’s bank account in his country. Calin refunded $2,000 via PayPal.
So we asked the customer for his IBAN and other details and sent them to Calin. When we sent him the customer’s IBAN, he said he was on vacation and would solve the bank issue when he returned, making us wait an additional week. After he got back, he claimed that the IBAN provided was invalid. We asked for proof because we felt he was just making excuses. Calin also claimed he had sent many international payments via IBAN and knew how it worked.
However, when we asked him to show the error, he sent us a screen recording of him attempting a domestic transfer. When we questioned why he was using a domestic transfer instead of an international one, he responded with "Oops!" and then claimed that his account could only be sent to Romania and that he would have to visit the bank to make the transfer.
This raised more questions: If the funds were supposedly locked, why did he even attempt to make the transfer? And why was it a domestic transfer?
Now, he is coming up with random excuses and started blaming us. He claims he declared the customer’s bank ID instead of his name because he couldn’t find the name anywhere. However, it was clearly mentioned in the declaration document we prepared and in our invoice to the client.
Now he is making excuses, saying the bank is not happy with the mismatch in the customer’s name, which he says is due to the use of the customer’s ID instead of his name. What?? When we asked him to visit the bank and explain the situation directly, he refused to go in person, claiming he spoke to them on the phone. I don’t believe him at all now.
He’s making it seem like it’s a huge blunder and that there’s no way the bank will refund the amount. He’s blaming us, saying we didn’t mention the customer’s name in our Telegram “chat” and that he didn’t notice the customer’s name in the declaration form! Ridiculous!
Now he’s just making excuses and ignoring us!!
We are his customer, we paid him, and now we’re the ones running after him to solve an issue he created! He’s now putting random blame on us to make it look like it was our mistake and that the funds won’t be released by the bank. Basically, he’s taken all the funds!!
I remember when we were getting quotes for this order, many warned me not to go with Calin as he would steal the funds. But all other providers backed out, so I had no other option.
It’s been nearly 2 months now!
Comments
Didn't read all, I mean didn't read anything.
I see Calin, I see crypto, I see money missing... tagging @crunchbits for the rescue!
/ This is a joke, just ignore /
Someone want popcorn?
You should have not been doing business with him. You know what he has done. Blame on yourself (or your greedy)
Anyway hope things will work out.
I wouldn't trust Calin with my money. And this isn't his first rodeo with these kinds of crypto/money issues.
@BilohBucks
I want 2 buckets, please!
Wow that a lot of money everyone in LET can get a popcorn and a chilled beer with that money
Between what config and how many server you have ordered with Calin
ChatGPT
The user recounts a problematic transaction involving bulk dedicated servers from a third-party provider named Calin. Initially, Calin quoted $22,500 for a 3-month order, and both parties agreed to use cryptocurrency for the payment. Payments were made in installments, with $2,000 paid via PayPal and the rest in crypto. However, after payment completion, Calin claimed that the bank blocked his transfer due to issues with the source of funds, requiring a declaration.
Despite providing bank statements and a declaration document, Calin delayed progress, citing various issues. After a month of excuses, the user requested a refund. Calin agreed to refund $2,000 via PayPal but claimed the rest could only be refunded to the customer’s bank account. However, Calin continued delaying with more excuses, including an invalid IBAN and issues with the customer’s name in the declaration. He refused to visit the bank in person, further raising suspicions.
The user feels Calin is stalling, making excuses, and shifting blame. Despite warnings from others about Calin's reliability, the user proceeded due to a lack of other options. Two months later, the issue remains unresolved, with Calin seemingly withholding the funds.
You did have another option. And that was to say NO to your client. Like someone said above, your greed is as much to blame as Calin. You wanted that "margin" bad from your client so you took the risk with Calin. I hope to god this post will deter other greedy imbeciles in the future.
All that I'm wondering is what kind of customer suddenly buys $22k worth of dmca-ignored servers with crypto through a middle-man (who usually has nothing to do with this business), only to then happily submit proof of funds and personal information as requested.
7$
This and HE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT CALIN lol
Summary: A Scammed Reseller
The Situation:
The Problem:
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Conclusion:
GoSSDHosting appears to have been scammed by @calin. Despite providing all necessary documentation and cooperating with the provider, GoSSDHosting has been unable to recover the remaining funds. This incident serves as a cautionary tale for others considering working with @calin or similar providers in the future.
my i m yum mmm
tagging @crunchbits for the rescue!
Beat meat to it
I'm selling popcorn! Only $10 each~
Boooom!!!!
Statement @Calin ?
Hello , @GoSSDHosting , you try to make it seem like everything is our fault, when it is completely wrong, I will write the problem quite briefly
Any transaction over 10,000 euros must be verified by the bank , the first time I offered the bank an invoice (related to your company), because you are from outside the European Union, and the transaction was made through crypto, the bank asked for an account statement with the transaction , this is where the whole problem begins, you provided 2 bank statements from 2 different banks with different names that didn't make any sense , when I'm ask you more details about this bank statements , you start send us the 3rd bank statement , from another bank with another name.At the moment, the bank believes that the money is stolen, money laundered, or sold by dubious items on the Internet.
I'm just ask you a simple statement , and every time when I'm ask you more details you don't knowed about this , just looking for alternative solutions, unfortunately it's much more difficult to look for this at the moment because you started deleting messages, why are you hiding? Don't worry, I have a video with all the conversations made before all this circus
At a moment time you literally refuze to give us a bank statement , and I'm request you 1 week+ the same task
When I'm request you help to translate bank statement's you just don't wanted
Exactly what I wrote to you on Telegram, no any bank in this world will translate official documents with google translate, I had to fill in a sheet with these details about the client, and you didn't help me at all, every time when I asked you for the name of the company or the name on the account statement, you just ignored me, and every time I asked you additional questions, you didn't know how to answer them
And many other things that have happened before
About scam:
You saw with your own eyes and even wrote on the thread that I offered you the 2,000 USD back in paypal, what makes you think that this is a scam?The money blocked in the bank is because you provided 3 account statements, from 3 different banks with 3 different names, each having 0 logic with the crypto transaction
@crunchbits can you confirm, in the last 3 months I paid them more than 40,000 USD(all in crypto) for 190 servers for other customers, and the 5,500 USD from the past were returned
If I was really a scammer, I could steal that money,
(Unfortunately, I cannot show the account statements and invoices here , due to GDPR things)
But if whatever way he wants I can show them in PM, just so understand how disastrous and illogical they are
Regards
Copilot output.
@GoSSDHosting you lost only $20,500, not so bad.
@Calin when you will make new deals? What will you buy using this money?
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Wrong!All the details given at the bank were made physically, on paper, when you asked me to go to the bank, I explained very clearly that I had no way to go there, at the same time a meeting with someone from the bank in the moment is not possible! Since the bank is still researching these account statements, I just fill out some forms and the people at the bank send them on to another department that deals with these things, I made about 6-7 trips to the bank, when it comes to giving evidence, everything is done physically, with the signature and stamp, nothing digital works
Chatgpt summary
The writer, GoSSDHosting, claims they were scammed by Calin from iHostART.com after paying $22,500 in cryptocurrency for bulk dedicated servers. The deal involved reselling servers for a client in a DMCA-ignored region. GoSSDHosting transferred the payment in parts, with $2,000 via PayPal and the rest in crypto. Calin initially confirmed receipt of the funds but later claimed that a bank blocked the transaction, requesting proof of the source of the funds.
Despite providing necessary documents, Calin delayed resolving the issue, eventually offering excuses, including invalid IBAN details, domestic vs. international transfer confusion, and a name mismatch. Although Calin refunded $2,000 via PayPal, GoSSDHosting has been waiting for the rest of the refund for nearly two months and believes Calin is now avoiding them, making excuses, and blaming them for the situation. The writer expresses regret, as they were warned about Calin but had no other provider options.
Can you send a proof?
Stop with ai summaries 😂
I want whatever op is smoking to be able to trust @Calin with 22k usd
We should vote on which model made the best summary. Those with access to paid models should also do the same.
Looks like Calin won. Lmao.
If the thing about the different statements from different banks in different names is true the proof of funds are probably fake, which honestly seems more likely than them being real. Why would someone make such a large order for a product like this in crypto in the first place?
Crypto probably comes from illegal stuff, customer used fake documents, Calin got himself a 💰
It's probably Claude sonnet