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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @SirNeo said:
    This story has only one solution. @GoSSDHosting should go to police and if @Calin is found guilty he should pay if not business as usual and this threat should not exist since is bad comercial and can affect Calin's business. In this case he can sue GoSSDHosting for lying and losing money

    Since I don’t think there was any intent to fraud, i.e. scam, it’s probably more likely a civil matter.

    Very hard to fight that out from (India?) to Romania

    Especially with several involved parties, it would likely cost way more than those 20K

  • @emgh said: Very hard to fight that out from (India?) to Romania

    >

    Again , here it's about his customer what it's from Europe

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited September 2024

    GoSSDHosting seems to be more or less screwed up because Calin is abusing the fact that the client wanted anonymity - something Calin explicitly agreed to but is now using against him.
    What should GoSSDHosting, located on the other side of the globe and having paid for undelivered services in crypto he got from his client, do in this situation?

    In my opinion, this is one of the crappiest moves Calin has made recently, and he's done a lot of the crap in the past few years.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Calin said:

    @emgh said: Very hard to fight that out from (India?) to Romania

    >

    Again , here it's about his customer what it's from Europe

    That’s not how it works legally

    He has no contract with you directly

    This is two seperate issues

    One between the end client and gossd

    And one between you and gossd

    Thanked by 1Frameworks
  • @Mumbly said:
    GoSSDHosting seems to be more or less screwed up because Calin is abusing the fact that the client wanted anonymity - something Calin explicitly agreed to but is now using against him.
    What should GoSSDHosting, located on the other side of the globe and having paid for undelivered services in crypto he got from his client, do in this situation?

    In my opinion, this is one of the crappiest moves Calin has made recently, and he's done a lot of the crap in the past few years.

    Nah, selling swap as ram was way worse than this. Current situation is very simple: idiot parted with money, scammer sucessfully executed his part and will reap juicy fruits.

    Thanked by 2mw sasslik
  • @Levi said:

    @Mumbly said:
    GoSSDHosting seems to be more or less screwed up because Calin is abusing the fact that the client wanted anonymity - something Calin explicitly agreed to but is now using against him.
    What should GoSSDHosting, located on the other side of the globe and having paid for undelivered services in crypto he got from his client, do in this situation?

    In my opinion, this is one of the crappiest moves Calin has made recently, and he's done a lot of the crap in the past few years.

    Nah, selling swap as ram was way worse than this. Current situation is very simple: idiot parted with money, scammer sucessfully executed his part and will reap juicy fruits.

    Yeah...

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @Levi said:

    @Mumbly said:
    GoSSDHosting seems to be more or less screwed up because Calin is abusing the fact that the client wanted anonymity - something Calin explicitly agreed to but is now using against him.
    What should GoSSDHosting, located on the other side of the globe and having paid for undelivered services in crypto he got from his client, do in this situation?

    In my opinion, this is one of the crappiest moves Calin has made recently, and he's done a lot of the crap in the past few years.

    Nah, selling swap as ram was way worse than this. Current situation is very simple: idiot parted with money, scammer sucessfully executed his part and will reap juicy fruits.

    and vegetables

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @mw said:

    @Levi said:

    @Mumbly said:
    GoSSDHosting seems to be more or less screwed up because Calin is abusing the fact that the client wanted anonymity - something Calin explicitly agreed to but is now using against him.
    What should GoSSDHosting, located on the other side of the globe and having paid for undelivered services in crypto he got from his client, do in this situation?

    In my opinion, this is one of the crappiest moves Calin has made recently, and he's done a lot of the crap in the past few years.

    Nah, selling swap as ram was way worse than this. Current situation is very simple: idiot parted with money, scammer sucessfully executed his part and will reap juicy fruits.

    and vegetables

    Regards

    Thanked by 1mw
  • RapToNRapToN Member, Host Rep

    @Calin said:

    @emgh said: Very hard to fight that out from (India?) to Romania

    >

    Again , here it's about his customer what it's from Europe

    Who is on the invoice you created?

    This is the only person/company you should be interested in.

  • This is one of the biggest dramas of LET, along with that of HostSolutions. Now considering Calin wishes to close the thread without doing a refund (even though he has money), it means there is a good reason to believe Calin is a scammer.

    Just like with HostSolutions, iHostArt should be banned from LET permanently, not just provider tag removed. No community should encourage something like this; nobody should ever encourage stealing.

    Deep down I still find it hard to believe how the second biggest drama of LET comes from Romania too; while this supposedly scam is somewhat connected at its roots with the previous drama, since iHostArt acquired servers and knowledge from HostSolutions when iHostArt started doing business.

    iHostArt wants the thread closed. This says a lot about the provider. I still wonder why he's not banned yet.

  • @RapToN said:

    @Calin said:

    @emgh said: Very hard to fight that out from (India?) to Romania

    >

    Again , here it's about his customer what it's from Europe

    Who is on the invoice you created?

    This is the only person/company you should be interested in.

    It is a John Doe from Tunguska. Do you know which country has an embassy there? To easy up legal matters…

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Unpopular opinion, but this was a shady deal between several parties

    Gossd agreed to structure money to stay below any radars, if LET should ban people based on possible crimes, LET should ban Gossd as well

    And also ban anyone seeking servers for copyright infringement

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    The only other possible reason for a ban would be to protect the members of the forum. If a member buys a VPS from Calin, wouldn’t they recieve it? I think they will

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  • SululuSululu Member
    edited September 2024

    @emgh said:
    The only other possible reason for a ban would be to protect the members of the forum. If a member buys a VPS from Calin, wouldn’t they recieve it? I think they will

    A user/rep has indulged in various shady/near shady behaviour/transactions and your basis for letting them remain is because you do not think they will scam members for $7 VPs?

    ??

    Think about that..CAREFULLY

    Thanked by 1AlbaHost
  • @emgh - to find the issue: follow the money. Where is the money at and why it is there?

    The money is at iHostArt. It is there because iHostArt converted it from crypto to fiat without knowing the laws of their own country.

    They can fix it with funds which they already have, but they won't; instead they want the discussions closed.

    It is quite simple.

    Thanked by 1AlbaHost
  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited September 2024

    I love Romania. It offers DMCA hosting, but it also offered some of the best dramas (if not the best) of LowEndTalk so far.

  • AlbaHostAlbaHost Member, Patron Provider
    edited September 2024

    @emgh said:
    Unpopular opinion, but this was a shady deal between several parties

    Gossd agreed to structure money to stay below any radars, if LET should ban people based on possible crimes, LET should ban Gossd as well

    And also ban anyone seeking servers for copyright infringement

    What the individuals do or how would they use it, let the competent authorities deal with it. In this case, Gossd didnt get the servers which he paid for as agreed between them, and had not the opportunity to do any "illegal" thing, although Calin is ok with such activities! However Calin got his money and did not provided the agreed servers between them! Based on the forum rules this is considered as scam, many of them who took the money and did not provide the services got banned!

    @emgh said:
    The only other possible reason for a ban would be to protect the members of the forum. If a member buys a VPS from Calin, wouldn’t they recieve it? I think they will

    What if Calin thinks or say again "bank" froze the money will they get the servers? Why do you believe that this case is different?! Gossd is a member of this community too, what makes you think that Gossd didnt get the servers but others will get them? Or do you think that Gossd's money are less worth because he's Indian?!

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  • @emgh said:
    this was a shady deal between several parties

    Gossd agreed to structure money to stay below any radars, if LET should ban people based on possible crimes, LET should ban Gossd as well

    i concur

    Thanked by 2emgh skorous
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @AlbaHost said: Or do you think that Gossd's money are less worth because he's Indian?!

    edited out to not get warned :D

    but you're obviously not very bright, let's leave it at that

  • @emgh said:
    Unpopular opinion, but this was a shady deal between several parties

    Gossd agreed to structure money to stay below any radars, if LET should ban people based on possible crimes, LET should ban Gossd as well

    And also ban anyone seeking servers for copyright infringement

    This thread was started because Calin failed to fulfill his promise, and it is unrelated to any other matters.

    For example, someone might say: 'Should we also ban @xaoc because of his massive peenus?'

    In this case, @xaoc’s massive peenus is irrelevant to Calin’s failure to keep his promises, but the person is using their personal bias to suggest a ban.

    Thanked by 1AlbaHost
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Sululu said: A user/rep has indulged in various shady/near shady behaviour/transactions and your basis for letting them remain is because you do not think they will scam members for $7 VPs?

    The whole DMCA ignore everything allow scene is shady. If we want to ban shady activity, that whole thing has to go. Including Calin & gossd.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • AlbaHostAlbaHost Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said: Or do you think that Gossd's money are less worth because he's Indian?!

    edited out to not get warned :D

    but you're obviously not very bright, let's leave it at that

    Yeah, coming from you already ignored it, because don't want to fall that low!

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @xaoc said: This thread was started because Calin failed to fulfill his promise, and it is unrelated to any other matters.

    so we can't see the full picture unless I create a new thread about every single shady thing going on here?

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said: Or do you think that Gossd's money are less worth because he's Indian?!

    edited out to not get warned :D

    but you're obviously not very bright, let's leave it at that

    Yeah, coming from you already ignored it, because don't want to fall that low!

    Go challenge your intellect, try not to drool

  • AlbaHostAlbaHost Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said: Or do you think that Gossd's money are less worth because he's Indian?!

    edited out to not get warned :D

    but you're obviously not very bright, let's leave it at that

    Yeah, coming from you already ignored it, because don't want to fall that low!

    Go challenge your intellect, try not to drool

    I just pointed your nonsense comment above, if that hurted your intellect sorry about it!

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said: Or do you think that Gossd's money are less worth because he's Indian?!

    edited out to not get warned :D

    but you're obviously not very bright, let's leave it at that

    Yeah, coming from you already ignored it, because don't want to fall that low!

    Go challenge your intellect, try not to drool

    I just pointed your nonsense comment above, if that hurted your intellect sorry about it!

    No, you accused me of racism you fattie

  • @emgh said:
    so we can't see the full picture unless I create a new thread about every single shady thing going on here?

    Did you just assume shady things happen on LET?

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  • AlbaHostAlbaHost Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said:

    @emgh said:

    @AlbaHost said: Or do you think that Gossd's money are less worth because he's Indian?!

    edited out to not get warned :D

    but you're obviously not very bright, let's leave it at that

    Yeah, coming from you already ignored it, because don't want to fall that low!

    Go challenge your intellect, try not to drool

    I just pointed your nonsense comment above, if that hurted your intellect sorry about it!

    No, you accused me of racism you fattie

    Because based on your comment, i couldn't find any other words on why Gossd can not get the servers even if he paid them, but other members would get them!

  • @emgh said:

    @xaoc said: This thread was started because Calin failed to fulfill his promise, and it is unrelated to any other matters.

    so we can't see the full picture unless I create a new thread about every single shady thing going on here?

    Where does this full picture end? Should we also investigate the types of diapers used by Calin/gosswhat as a baby?

    Thanked by 1AlbaHost
  • To all the small providers:

    EU law: If you include a "force majeure" clause that covers unforeseen financial obstacles caused by a third party in your terms, you can inform your customer of the "force majeure". This will legally free you from fulfilling your part of the agreement until the obstacle is resolved.

    It’s important to ensure this clause is drafted correctly, so consulting a lawyer is advisable. This measure can protect small providers from deadpool due to unforeseen issues like this.

    Downside: Less drama here on LET.

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