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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!

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  • bobertbobert Member
    edited September 2024

    Ask him for his crypto address to refund the money there. If he still refuses, then it is his fault and not yours.

    Why aren't you refunding the crypto back? Why does it have to be through a bank account?

    Thanked by 2yoursunny cotc
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @bobert said:
    Ask him for his crypto address to refund the money there. If he still refuses, then it is his fault and not yours.

    Calin dosen’t want to do that as then, he argues, the bank won’t cover it.

  • @Calin said:

    @emgh said: If he provides a paypal email or a crypto wallet, you’re willing to refund to that?

    >

    Money what he send on Paypal we refunded , we already refunded this 2.000 USD

    The bank does not accept payments in crypto / paypal or other similar methods, the problem was very simple, the bank wanted to reimburse the money in that account in which he provided proof with the account statement, which seems to me very correct to prevent money laundering, or other similar things.

    At the moment I do NOT want to give the money back from my own pocket, because this time it was not my fault, in the previous case with the 5500 USD it was only my fault with the blocking of the coinbase account, but here it is not my fault with this USD 22,500 transaction

    I'm still waiting for an answer from @GoSSDHosting (I'm ask him above) if I have permission to post all the chats with him, of course all GDPR information censored
    because he accused me in the first pages of the thread that I only sent pictures of certain conversations on his part, just so he could be blamed

    EDIT:

    As I said before, I accepted more than 40,000 USD in the last few months in crypto and everything worked perfectly, with very understanding customers, it's not my fault that GOSSDHosting gave me some fake statements, actually one of them says fruits and vegetables.

    If we had known from the beginning that he was this type of client, we certainly would not have accepted him, but I have no way of predicting this type of problem

    SEBZE VE MEYVE ITHALAT

    different statements with different names, client who is actually from Egypt but the bank is from Turkey, but actually it is an individual name but in fact it is a company of millions blah blah, recently he started to delete from telegram chats with several conversations. Why did I finance from my own pocket a possible man who sells drugs, weapons, or other dubious things on the Internet? I'd rather be banned than finance dubious people on the internet

    Regards

    But you accept it.

  • @emgh said: The question then is, why did you accept this deal

    We accepted more customers with crypto , due to recently crypto mining (quilibrium.com/) quilibrium* and we don't meet any problem with they , all work very professional and very calmy , because @GoSSDHosting crept among them I can't predict that

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Calin said:

    @emgh said: The question then is, why did you accept this deal

    We accepted more customers with crypto , due to recently crypto mining (quilibrium.com/) quilibrium* and we don't meet any problem with they , all work very professional and very calmy , because @GoSSDHosting crept among them I can't predict that

    So, in your world, structuring payments to avoid bank checks, having an anonymous client who wants to avoid KYC send you 22.5K dosen’t ring any alarm clocks?

    You act like you don’t want to support illegal stuff online, but with this attitude, it seems you very knowingly do turn a blind eye.

    Again, I 100 % agree that they’re probably not doing legal stuff, but that’s just my opinion.

  • @emgh said: Calin dosen’t want to do that as then, he argues, the bank won’t cover it.

    Why does the bank need to cover it? Is it holding the money hostage?

    Even if this was the case, calin guaranteed the customer would be refunded even if KYC popped up.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @bobert said:

    @emgh said: Calin dosen’t want to do that as then, he argues, the bank won’t cover it.

    Why does the bank need to cover it? Is it holding the money hostage?

    Yes

    Even if this was the case, calin guaranteed the customer would be refunded even if KYC popped up.

    Yes

  • nothing wrong with coin derived from terrorism in my books money is money now get me my blood diamonds

    Thanked by 3emgh sillycat Janevski
  • @emgh said: So, in your world, structuring payments to avoid bank checks, having an anonymous client who wants to avoid KYC send you 22.5K dosen’t ring any alarm clocks?

    >

    We have lot of customers what want avoid KYC and have to us servers and have 0 abuse reports on this , and I'm speak here with customers with thousands of euros monthly , and they usage servers for political websites or any other type of content , again 0 abuse reports , 0 problems

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @mw said:
    nothing wrong with coin derived from terrorism in my books money is money now get me my blood diamonds

    You read books?

    Nerd

    Thanked by 1mw
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Calin said:

    @emgh said: So, in your world, structuring payments to avoid bank checks, having an anonymous client who wants to avoid KYC send you 22.5K dosen’t ring any alarm clocks?

    >

    We have lot of customers what want avoid KYC and have to us servers and have 0 abuse reports on this , and I'm speak here with customers with thousands of euros monthly , and they usage servers for political websites or any other type of content , again 0 abuse reports , 0 problems

    Political websites usually need to avoid DMCA?

  • @emgh said:

    @mw said:
    nothing wrong with coin derived from terrorism in my books money is money now get me my blood diamonds

    You read books?

    Nerd

    i look at the pictures

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @mw said:

    @emgh said:

    @mw said:
    nothing wrong with coin derived from terrorism in my books money is money now get me my blood diamonds

    You read books?

    Nerd

    i look at the pictures

    That’s the spirit. Thanks for clarifying

    Thanked by 2mw Frameworks
  • @emgh said: Political websites usually need to avoid DMCA?

    >

    Yes and other books websites etc.. I'm don t want say explicit what more exactly we host but all it's perfectly fine , no any reports etc....

  • @emgh said:

    @Calin said:

    @emgh said: So, in your world, structuring payments to avoid bank checks, having an anonymous client who wants to avoid KYC send you 22.5K dosen’t ring any alarm clocks?

    >

    We have lot of customers what want avoid KYC and have to us servers and have 0 abuse reports on this , and I'm speak here with customers with thousands of euros monthly , and they usage servers for political websites or any other type of content , again 0 abuse reports , 0 problems

    Political websites usually need to avoid DMCA?

    fake DMCA requests are common in that area. we get 4-10 a month hosting dishonest.wiki

  • @mw said: fake DMCA requests are common in that area. we get 4-10 a month hosting dishonest.wiki

    >

    Yes that it's true , they receive lot of fake DMCA reports , fake CSAM reports , just a example , to host kiwifarms it's a next lvl hosting industry :) you have no idea what I receive on my abuse email, from death threats to any other crazy things

    but let's not derail the thread

  • @emgh said:

    @Calin said:

    @emgh said: So, in your world, structuring payments to avoid bank checks, having an anonymous client who wants to avoid KYC send you 22.5K dosen’t ring any alarm clocks?

    >

    We have lot of customers what want avoid KYC and have to us servers and have 0 abuse reports on this , and I'm speak here with customers with thousands of euros monthly , and they usage servers for political websites or any other type of content , again 0 abuse reports , 0 problems

    Political websites usually need to avoid DMCA?

    It's not like he only ignores DMCA. He's generally very pro free speech.
    The Kiwifarms used them as one of their proxies when I checked a few days ago. Now they don't - possibly related? :D

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • bobertbobert Member
    edited September 2024

    @Calin said: We have lot of customers what want avoid KYC and have to us servers and have 0 abuse reports on this , and I'm speak here with customers with thousands of euros monthly , and they usage servers for political websites or any other type of content , again 0 abuse reports , 0 problems

    But you guaranteed him a refund if he had to do KYC.

    He paid you specifically to bypass KYC. You broke your guarentee.

    Just because you got lucky and didn't have to do it for your other customers doesn't mean you get to break your guarentee.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Calin said:

    @emgh said: Political websites usually need to avoid DMCA?

    >

    Yes and other books websites etc.. I'm don t want say explicit what more exactly we host but all it's perfectly fine , no any reports etc....

    I appreciate the answers. Maybe you’re right.

    I still feel that a lot of people reading the screenshots will believe that this probably isn’t some political blog being hosted.

    They might get the impression that you suddenly care about what they’re up to when it suits you, but look the other way when it dosen’t.

    Anyway, you do you. I’d avoid these types in the future. You can’t build a sustainable business by structuring payments and catering to shady people. At some point, something will go wrong.

    I respect the grinding though, I’ll give you that.

  • CalinCalin Member
    edited September 2024

    In relation to those who say that if the problem is solved and I will keep the money, this is again false, a statement is made to the bank for the return of the funds, signed and stamped, the bank has eyes on this money, it is not so simple to "steal" some money

    Regarding to refund from my own pocket, it is excluded, I work correctly and allocate many hours behind for this work to finance a possible cyber criminal, who makes this money in a few minutes from illegal activities, I prefer to be banned on this forum than not being able to sleep at night because I can finance a possible cybercriminals

    I'm really don't want to know from where go this money , but of course not from "SEBZE VE MEYVE ITHALAT" turkey language , what on English mean "Fruits and vegetables" no thanks

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Calin said:

    Regarding to refund from my own pocket, it is excluded, I work correctly and allocate many hours behind for this work to finance a possible cyber criminal, who makes this money in a few minutes from illegal activities, I prefer to be banned on this forum than not being able to sleep at night because I can finance a possible cybercriminals

    1. If the bank covers it, are you suddenly okay with financing cybercriminals?
    2. Honest question, do you think cybercriminals use your services to host stuff they can’t host elsewhere?
  • CalinCalin Member
    edited September 2024

    @emgh said: If the bank covers it, are you suddenly okay with financing cybercriminals?

    If the bank believes that the money is made legally (very unlikely) , then I definitely don't have a problem, it's the bank's decision, but as I said at the moment, the bank hasn't answered me for almost 1 week, and the last time I met with them they said that these are quite serious things

    @emgh said: Honest question, do you think cybercriminals use your services to host stuff they can’t host elsewhere?

    Who break our ToS: b) NO KIDS PORN , OR AI WITH KIDS PORN , OR DEAD KIDS PHOTOS FROM WARS OR DRUGS/WEAPONS OR OTHER SIMILAR THINGS , WE CONTACT IMEDIATLY POLICE

    https://ihostart.com/termeni-si-conditii/index.html

    All I can say is that I filled many sticks with many Gbs and lot of papers

    @Andreix and @FlorinMarian
    They i don't know, unfortunately, because there are much bigger eyes here that are watching, so every time they talk about criminal things, they just laugh, because they don't know the real background, I don't want to go into details, but as I said, if the client is bad I'm definitely not friends with him :) I'm really don't agree pedos and other things

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @Calin said: I work correctly and allocate many hours behind for this work to finance a possible cyber criminal, who makes this money in a few minutes from illegal activities, I prefer to be banned on this forum than not being able to sleep at night because I can finance a possible cybercriminals

    If you were worried about that, then why did you accept him as a customer in the first place?

    Even if he is a cyber criminal (which he might not be), you have your own reputation to worry about.

  • CalinCalin Member
    edited September 2024

    @bobert said: which he might not be

    Bank and proofs what he give us say another thing

    I'm still waiting a agree from @GoSSDHosting to allow post here all chats , if the circus has started, at least let's take it to the end
    EDIT:

    Because my I'm don t have any thing to hidden , I'm left him literally a full video record with my bank statement , my Customer ID of my bank statement , my IBAN , my company name , all details , and I'm very happy to leave more for they go to police or other things

    Instead, he didn't even manage to give a name correctly, only a lot of account statements with a lot of different things

  • @bobert said: If you were worried about that, then why did you accept him as a customer in the first place?

    >

    I already wrote this above, it's just a question that repeats itself , I'm answer already 3-4 times at this similar question

  • CalinCalin Member
    edited September 2024

    I'm send to @jbiloh all details what this customer send us(about bank statements , names etc... etc..) , and the full 46 minutes video with all chats (before more of this start be delete)

    The proof of video where I'm show money it's block on my account etc...

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited September 2024

    In this case a client wanted to pay in crypto a provider. The provider was paid in cryptocurrency. If service is not delivered, money should be returned using the same payment method: cryptocurrency.

    The problem appears on how provider wanted to exchange the money into fiat with the purpose of refunding using this different payment channel: fiat. This is where things get dicey, because banks need explanations. @Calin is not a currency exchange company, nor should be used as one.

    If a provider can be used to evade taxes by converting cryptocurrency into fiat for customers in refunds, abusers would pay huge amounts for services and ask for refunds in different channels to evade their governments. This is not right, nor should it be.

    As such, the problem is at @Calin who maybe should try to send cryptocurrency into the wallet of customer as it came, and be done with it (assuming the service can not be provided).

  • @Calin said: and the full 46 minutes video with all chats

    Poor @jbiloh. I'm afraid ChatGPT can't summarize that

  • Just as an ending because I'm going to sleep (it's 2 AM here in romania right now)

    At the moment I have 1,000 active clients, none of these clients have complained of stealing money, both big clients and small clients, certainly my goal is not to steal money from anyone

    all this don't make with scams , maked with monthly payments from customers what paid every month

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @matey0 said:

    @Calin said: and the full 46 minutes video with all chats

    Poor @jbiloh. I'm afraid ChatGPT can't summarize that

    He’ll get to it next week

    Who gets it? :D

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