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Calin iHostART.Com took our $22.5K and scamming us!
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Original money owner -> gossd -> calin
Now money flow:
Original money owner (btc)-> gossd (btc)-> calin (fiat)<-> bank
Question: tafak are you talking about bank refund to gossd? How bank knows that you received btc from gossd? Kyc by the btc gateway didn’t flag btc transaction. Now all is this:
Calin <-> bank
If problem would be with initial btc transaction, than yes, gossd have to take actions to resolve. But now this is solely calin problem who cash out his btc to fiat with particular bank X.
Is this so hard to understand?
Your inability to understand English is a real issue.
Exactly what I said:
@Andru
You idiot, you recieved the money to your crypto wallet. Is your job how to exchange to FIAT, not your customer(s).
Lets assume, that you have in your wallet crypto from 100 customers, when you exchange to fiat, you ask 100 customers to make the bank statement ?
This was my last comment here. I hope that @jbiloh will see that this guy is a scammer.
Kindly turn away from the mirror for a moment.
your signature screams 'not impartial or fair. Not at all'
Right now, you seem to be very high on cocaine or weed ... Get some sleep.
Firstly GoSSDHosting is not customer to Calin's Bank. So he has all the rights to deny details if needed.
Secondly, What do you expect from GoSSDHosting? He should know Banking policies of each and every country where his clients or providers are based out of?
Transaction Amount & Type was both clear to Calin. He should know how Banking policies works in his country & he should have informed about it to GoSSDHosting before entering into the deal. But looks like he was high like you. So stop showing-off over here as you know a lot of about "How it works". Because literally you are looking like a noob now.
My opinion is that the seller, whether it's @calin or anyone else, once they accept crypto payments, they take full responsibility from that point forward. It seems that @calin accepted and received the funds, and then transferred them to his Coinbase account. At this point, we’re talking about excluding any fault on the part of @GoSSDHosting. @calin, when he transferred the money from Coinbase to his bank, took full responsibility. The Coinbase account is in his name, and I don't understand why he would need the client's information. The bank is investigating @calin directly, not @calin investigating the client. This is my opinion. The mistake is @calin.> @emgh said:
I haven't ruled out this option either. If we reflect on it, @GoSSDHosting was probably blinded by the amount and didn’t calculate beforehand what they were doing or with whom they were doing business. So, what you mentioned above will surely happen. Of course, @GoSSDHosting is directly responsible to the client for the amount received.
It seems that many people on this forum do not understand about cryptocurrency, I usually use cryptocurrency because of its anonymity and security, it is the biggest reason for cryptocurrency to exist and develop. For example, when I trade with cryptocurrency, the money comes to my account (specifically on Binance, I use Binance to manage my cryptocurrency), I have to provide services to my customers, or vice versa. In my country, when I have cryptocurrency, I will sell them back to people who need cryptocurrency, and I will receive cash back, even on Binance also provides a trading tool called P2P. I will not work with banks... this will avoid legal problems like what Calin is facing. It seems that Calin has no experience with cryptocurrency... leading to losses for his customers... personally I think Calin should be responsible for this money. The money has passed through Calin's e-wallet, which means that the customer has successfully transacted with Calin, and then Calin works with the bank, that's Calin's business with the bank, those who regularly trade with cryptocurrencies will have the same thoughts as me and will understand what I'm saying. In addition, I also highly appreciate the cheap high-capacity storage services that Calin provides, I plan to buy some VPS from him, hope he will resolve this issue satisfactorily so that I can trust him, wish him all the best.
@stefeman sorry, I can’t really summarise this impartially, so much going on
@Mumbly, @itachikonoha and @xvps have some interesting takes throughout the thread I think though, if that helps. Gotta read the @crunchbits reply as well I think to get some context.
Also, keep in mind nearly every post is speculation. We haven’t seen shit. We haven’t seen the invoices, the communication from the bank, etc.
But the original buyer has no contract with calin, so idk how that would work.
godamn everyone be going at each others throat for nothing. i don't even get why gossd made this thread, this isn't something we can resolve but only them. but that's LET drama for ya
This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion here, but I don't believe Calin should be liable or banned on this forum (assuming the money is stuck at the bank). Maybe if this was a blackhat darkweb forum then he should be.
As far as I can tell, he never advertised his services as 100% anonymous. DMCA ignored does not imply this at all.
Yes you may use crypto for privacy, but that is not the only use. Some people use it because they can't get paypal in their country.
You cannot expect anyone to eat a $40,000 loss just because the authorities randomly demanded KYC and you aren't willing to provide your identity. If you needed to make sure your identity would never be divulged in such as situation you should have specifically asked the host if they could do this (which I doubt gossd did) , especially for such a large sum. This is a very unusual and difficult request that affects pretty much every country.
that too i don't get how people would expect Calin to just "refund" 22K if it's frozen? is he supposed to get it out his ass lmao
Couldn't have said it better. I see some pushing blame on the buyer lol. If it was a direct client => bank transfer then yes. But the money started with crypto and went to multiple wallets before landing on @Calin coinbase account. Many countries and bank are already hammering down on hard on crypto withdrawals (either through taxing or limiting shit). So it's his incompetence (eg not learning from his past mistakes and learning more about how crypto should be handled). My crypto stays crypto. Rather not convert it to hard cash. (I even know someone close, in the Netherlands who had all his Dutch bank accounts blocked and under investigation for a long time 6+ months lol).
What makes this entire process even funnier, is that gossd probly doesen't even know the name of the original customer since he wants to buy dmca ignored hosting with crypto. So what name can he give if calin's bank supposedly is aware that the gossd is a middleman and wants to refund directly to original customer. (Which I find highly unlikely).
I think calin knows that gossd cant provide any legitmate name, and the situation is intentionally made so messy that even if the bank holding the money is true, calin likely has cooked some plot to keep most of it, if not all.
As long as nobody can make heads or tails about this transaction, calin will likely end up keeping the money and not get banned here.
I don't know what you understood from what I wrote above, but I don't think I mentioned anything about the client. I said that @GoSSDHosting is at fault for being blinded by the amount and jumping in headfirst. Of course, @calin can't offer a refund to @GoSSDHosting, and in turn, he will do the same... and unfortunately, the client will be the one who suffers the loss.
so, the conclusion is @calin is a semi-crook?
Do you think this will be the end? After all, it's 20k, not 2k... I don't think the client will just let it go. Indeed, the justice system in Romania doesn’t really do its job, but for an amount like this, I would personally put a gun to his head... and trust me, it's easy to find someone
I know crypto libertarian anarchists want the world to work this way, but pretty much every country do not allow transfers of large sums of money without KYC. If you've done anything with crypto in the past 10 years, you'd see every exchange adding KYC to their system.
And as far as I can tell, Calin never advertised bypassing KYC as part of his services.
He at least lost his tag
Yes even coinbase does. But the transfer came from Calin's coinbase account. The bank doesn't know better lol. But anyways he didn't advertise it, but he did more or less implied it.
He is all promises.
where did he imply it?
I edited my post. Fixed the image. They should release the full (redact some shit if needed) communication and all will be more clear lol. Empty promises
Ok well then I did not see that in the sea of posts.
Since Calin said he guaranteed a refund even after gossd mentioned not wanting any KYC, he absolutely should refund him.
186 new posts lmaooo
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Yes this it's true , and we try this ,but customer don't give correctly details for refund , how you want fix this?He have last change for this and just lost...Unfortunetly I'm not magician
If he provides a paypal email or a crypto wallet, you’re willing to refund to that?
Why not just send it back to his crypto wallet? You can't insist the refund be done with bank transfer only now.
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Money what he send on Paypal we refunded , we already refunded this 2.000 USD
The bank does not accept payments in crypto / paypal or other similar methods, the problem was very simple, the bank wanted to reimburse the money in that account in which he provided proof with the account statement, which seems to me very correct to prevent money laundering, or other similar things.
At the moment I do NOT want to give the money back from my own pocket, because this time it was not my fault, in the previous case with the 5500 USD it was only my fault with the blocking of the coinbase account, but here it is not my fault with this USD 22,500 transaction
I'm still waiting for an answer from @GoSSDHosting (I'm ask him above) if I have permission to post all the chats with him, of course all GDPR information censored
because he accused me in the first pages of the thread that I only sent pictures of certain conversations on his part, just so he could be blamed
EDIT:
As I said before, I accepted more than 40,000 USD in the last few months in crypto and everything worked perfectly, with very understanding customers, it's not my fault that GOSSDHosting gave me some fake statements, actually one of them says fruits and vegetables.
If we had known from the beginning that he was this type of client, we certainly would not have accepted him, but I have no way of predicting this type of problem
SEBZE VE MEYVE ITHALAT
different statements with different names, client who is actually from Egypt but the bank is from Turkey, but actually it is an individual name but in fact it is a company of millions blah blah, recently he started to delete from telegram chats with several conversations. Why did I finance from my own pocket a possible man who sells drugs, weapons, or other dubious things on the Internet? I'd rather be banned than finance dubious people on the internet
Regards
@Calin the only thing I can say to that is: They said they didn’t want KYC. You said don’t worry, we’ll give you money back on PayPal or crypto.
The bank might be correct to hold the money, and, these guys are probably shady (my opinion). The question then is, why did you accept this deal?
If someone wants to give you 22.5K with no KYC, maybe don’t accept it.