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[LET's 2024 #1 TOP PROVIDER*] Free VPSes, Shirts, Hoodies, and Firearms! -- Final Yearly VPS Chance!
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@FAT32 WE LOVE YOU!
Winter is coming, so hopefully I can stay warm wearing that gorgeous hoodie...
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Rainy season now, will be great if i have the cool red crunchbits hoodie when I'm out
what happened
@FAT32 WE LOVED YOU in January, but not anymore we don't!
We still love @FAT32 and @crunchbits
Hi @Crab! Hi to you too @FAT32!
Hope you are doing great!
@Crab, if you succeed at running you-know-what
at Crunchbits, 
please let me know.
Always best wishes!
Tom
oh man just in time for winter season too. looks like i'm renewing a relay or two
I want mangilla t shirt.
Sun is still shining and no rain at sight, so things are great. Hopefully it is the same for you as well!
I absolutely am running it at Crunchbits on all three different services of theirs. As I have said before it just works and gives you nice peace of mind.
Care to share with the masses, what are you running? It sounds so secretive! I want some peace of mind.
@Crab All great here! Glad things are working smoothly for you at crunchbits! They are lucky to have a fine gentleman like you as their customer!
@FrankCastle Hahaha! ROTFL!
My weewee goes boing boing.
@FrankCastle I just meant FreeBSD. @Crab was kindly helping me with FreeBSD a while back. We had a lot of fun! Thanks again @Crab! I am glad you got FreeBSD running on three services at Crunchbits!<3
Cool, thanks for letting me (and the rest reading) in on the inside joke.
I'm also an advocate for FreeBSD and the other BSDs too (NetBSD, OpenBSD, DragonFlyBSD, etc). Good stuff!
Great to meet you, @FrankCastle!
Do you know Crunchbits current policy on support for the BSDs?
Does Crunchbits have BSD install ISOs easily available these days?
Are there more people besides you and @Crab running BSD at Crunchbits?
Are there more BSD people here at LET?
When @Crab recently was helping me, that was my first time with FreeBSD. But, a long time ago, in the days of analog modems, when it took hours to download the source code, I used to use NetBSD-current. My setup would recompile NetBSD overnight while I was sleeping. Somehow I managed to get NetBSD running on an Intel desktop, on an IBM z50 laptop which was MIPS, and I think I remember getting NetBSD running on PowerPC too. Fun!
Wonderful to meet you as well, my friend.
I'm not sure what you mean here, I don't think they have any specific policy on what you can or can't run. If you can get it working, I don't think they really care what it is. I'm sure someone can chime in and correct me if I'm completely off my rocker with this though.
They have always been super helpful adding BSD ISOs for me but I don't think they have it as a normal template because we are sadly in the minority. They are super quick with the tickets.
That's a good question. I never really thought to ask but I'm sure there are at least one or two more besides us hiding in the shadows.
I've heard of a few others talk about it so I imagine so.
Yeah, NetBSD will run on just about anything. Why so long of a hiatus between NetBSD back in the 80s/90s until you tried out FreeBSD just recently for the first time? I tend to use BSD for almost all of my hobby projects but in a professional settings Linux is still the OS of choice (although when I first started out it was more Solaris, Irix and AIX).
I saw UNIX on a Teletype 33, but didn't begin using computers myself until later. When I started myself, it was for writing with MS-DOS and WordPerfect. Eventually there were no more updates for DOS. I didn't want to use Windows. I tried Linux briefly, and then switched to NetBSD, my reliable workhorse for multiple years. Eventually, for a few more years, Plan 9. On NetBSD and Plan 9 I continued writing with troff.
After I retired, Apple, because, for awhile, I wanted image editing software. Now, Linux, just for fun.
I think FreeBSD is great, and the other BSDs too! My general BSD experience is totally in accord with what @Crab said: BSD "just works." For me, on Linux, there often almost always seems to be some little thing or another with which there is a bit of trouble.
BSD is still going strong! Maybe I should come back!
I think they all have their place. I've never found one OS that does everything the best (if there was one there wouldn't need to be any others) so I tend to use the right tool for the job. I'm not one of the zealots that thinks everyone has to run [insert operating system of choice here] or they are missing out.
Why not? I'm sure it missed you!
@FrankCastle @Crab
Sometimes, these days, people are running FreeBSD on a VPS that is running on Linux. Or even OpenBSD on a VPS that is running on Linux. How about that?
Not saying anything against other BSDs, but, in a way I can understand NetBSD running on Qemu on Linux because, by design, NetBSD can run everywhere on everything.
@FrankCastle @Crab
Have you seen https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2024-September/003597.html ?
HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41444354
Isn't this a New Era in FreeBSD bring proposed? Wow!
Best wishes!
I'd say in almost all cases that's happening. VirtualBox, Proxmox, QEMU, KVM, etc are (I believe) all Linux based and those cover many VPS providers in one way or another. I have every flavor of BSD running in my homelab hypervisors which are a combination of the above. On the flip side I do have Linux running on some BSD hypervisors too which I believe is more rare to find.
Rust and Go are so hyped these days (not that there aren't a lot of merits). The push for memory safe languages to replace everything else is a totally different subject so I won't go off on that tangent. So ignoring the Rust specific aspects I'm not opposed to some of his suggestions/views. I think it is more likely to cause another fork than make it into FreeBSD proper though. Both NetBSD and FreeBSD forked off of 386BSD. OpenBSD forked off of NetBSD. DragonFlyBSD forked off of FreeBSD. Anyone for a RustBSD?
FreeBSD is facing a lot of exciting development and let's not forget version 15 is right in horizon!
https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/2024-freebsd-developer-summit-freebsd-15-release-planning/
When it comes to other BSDes, I have to admit that last time I touched either Open or Net was back in the late 90s. FreeBSD was kind of love at first sight and I haven't looked back at all. I should dedicate some time in the near future to see how's the world on the other side of the fence. The grass might not be greener, but could be showing some other colors and it would be a fun little project to try them out again
Most providers have BSD images either readily available or offer possibility to upload your own, so I haven't seen any issue there really. On the negative side Hetzner dropped the support on their dedicated line up a while back, but it works great in their cloud offering though even with the Ampere ARM products.
https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/wf7h34/hetzner_has_silently_dropped_support_for_freebsd/
@FrankCastle @Crab Every time you guys talk, I always think I should go back to BSD. Earlier today I was thinking, "Well, why not?"
:-)We need a BSD thread here at LET. Maybe I will try starting a BSD thread tomorrow. . . .