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All of this is baffling also to me, to be honest. They have so many real locations that there's absolutely no need to fake that one. Why on earth would they do that?
But the Vienna VPS I got was clearly hosted in Germany.
Like you mentioned, there could be a mistake in how the VPSes were allocated, but in that scenario, those German VPSes wouldn't have misleading RIPE AT geolocation. If I remember correctly, IPs at their German location have proper RIPE DE entries.
Even if there was a location allocation error, the IPs wouldn't fake the correct location. It appears to me that things are deliberately set up to mislead customers.
They seem to use a blend of RETN/Cogent/GblNet, and well, the latter doesn't even have a PoP in Vienna, but in Frankfurt
It's clearly fake, and the ping results are more than enough, I think @antonpa doesn't even know where his hardware resides at.
That's what I was saying. He's reselling. Those who give it to him are cheating He doesn't worry about accuracy since most localizations are exactly the same.
He's running a business. If he's advertising and selling services hosted in a certain country that are not actually hosted there, he's clearly misleading us. Or maybe even cheating intentionally.
I really couldn't care less about his deals with datacenters or resellers. He's the one who's selling the stuff he advertises here. It's his sole responsibility to uphold his end of the bargain while he's taking our money and no one else's.
He's very adamant that the location he's selling is the one he's advertising, even though it isn't. Continuing this scheme on LET is solely his responsibility.
It's still his fault. The customers can't be the first ones to notice their own advertised location is fake.
In real life, sometimes things don't happen the way you want them to. And to change something because of one wrong localization is quite problematic. The only way he can do that is to refuse the localization from his vendor. But he's not likely to do that because of you. The best way for you to solve the issue is to refuse or switch to another localization. They can switch and change the IP address after purchase.
They should just remove this localization from the list so there are no more questions. But I'm not sure they'll do that.
Are you serious? 😂 Test what exactly? Do you really think anyone will buy it after such a terrible performance? This promo vps is the worst I've ever seen.
How much gas you put in for the distance you traveled.
If you fill up for one mile, you're unlikely to go ten.
This offer is for those who only need to drive one mile.
Because of me?
Irrelevant. He does not have Vienna location and he mislead customers that pay for it.
Fake advertising should be removed from LET.
Not to mention that after several questions he still insist that he has Vienna servers while he hasn't.
"It sounds incredible", but probably you're stating truth. Many Russian bosses are only being told "everything is under control", because dissidents are made dismissed or vanished. But the reality will prove itself with time.
Perhaps it's an inclusive or. Many providers have embraced ChatGPT to reduce staff, at least @ezeth has done so.
It is playing dumb, but I prefer the description of "bureaucratic", because it seems @antonpa is replying (or simply repeating "we know, and we are investigating, and you wait, you be silent"), but @antonpa is not at all helping, it's pretending doing the job.
If you have travelled to North Korea in the past, then you might have seen beautifully dressed young students pretend sweeping streets with brooms and rags while there were no noticeable trash or dirt.
Can you write down what you're specifically suggesting? What is your goal in particular? What do you want to achieve? And what do you expect from @Antonpa?
Point by point.
If you're just getting his account banned then don't forget that providers membership on LET is not free.
Are you personally willing to pay back $200 to them?
You want to talk politics again? It has nothing to do with the post.
What a clown.
I am more and more convinced that you're not completely right in the head. Someone points out that hosts are misleading people, and you attack the person who pointed that out as if it's my fault.
First of all, advertising a location you don't have isn't an ok thing to do. It's misleading. Secondly, selling a location you don't have is even worse. That's fraud.
And that's exactly what he's doing. It baffles me how someone (yes, I'm looking at you @jenkki ) can be so foolish to defend that.
To return your stupid answer, are you personally willing to refund the money to every person who got scammed by them selling a servers on a location they don't have as you publicly support their actions and blame people for pointing that out?
Instead of drooling here, answer some simple questions.
What kind of actions are you waiting for? A simple question.
It's quite simple. The host should stop to advertise on LET locations they don't have. They should also not lie and mislead people here by claiming they have that location and pick money for it while VPSes are created elsewhere.
If they don't stop doing that, it would make sense to not allow them to post adverts as that's clearly a scam.
By the way, are you sure you're not blindly defending their scam just because they are Russians like you? I'm not talking about politics here and I couldn't care less from where you are, but from what I see, it's evident that you have some strange motivation to gaslight every criticism against this host, even if it's justified.
Your vigorous motivation to defend misleading selling practices that are clearly wrong seems unnatural.
I'm sure justhost.ru will refund.
See my previous comments. (TL;DR After many rounds of complaints I got the partial refund when the web hosting corrupted only tens of hours from my payment when justhost.ru claims its web hosting has "daily backup" which actually didn't help at all)
It's ironic @Mumbly called me moron then, now you know what I was talking about.
Don't you ever get tired of turning everything into politics. I've explained repeatedly that it doesn't matter to me and you still don't get it. You just keep pushing and pushing.
I'm not talking about politics here and I couldn't care less from where you are You refer to nationality and then claim that it has nothing to do with politics In this situation it does.
Why does my opinion have to be the same as yours? Who are you? A suspect who's been blowing people's minds for two days only to have the host banned for LET because of your wasted one buck?
Your motivation is the right one. To shit all over for provider to get banned.
I still think you're a bit off, but that's not the topic here :P
Just write honestly - I am offended and want Justhost to be banned on LET Everything will be clear and understandable.
If you're trying to stir up public opinion against it, it doesn't work anymore.
Fun fact: I never discuss politics on this forum. That's just in your twisted head. Before you started dragging your personally motivated nonsense into this thread, our discussion was solely technical.
And yes, I agree. Scammers should be banned. What part here is for you too hard to understand:
We get it. Write a statement to the higher authorities
Who are "we". There's not "we". You're the only one who blindly defend this hosts shady practice.
To be honest, your moronic persistence will damage this host more than if you weren't involved. I will respond to every attempt of your gaslighting of criticism and your defense of scammers. Try me.
Undoubtedly, @Mumbly is not the first person to do that, nor is he the last person.
I in the past got my half of 1 USD back because I will not give a cent to such a company. At the same time, I'm sure justhost.ru will not be the last one or last time being complained about.
Time will tell, so let us wait expectantly.
Thanks!
It actually wasn't anything like that. I spend way too much on VPSes to really care about a dollar here and there. Furthermore, I have been hosted with justhost.ru longer than most people here.
But this time I ordered their new service, received it, and then realized it wasn't hosted in the country they claimed to be. I canceled it, posted my findings about the fake location on the forum, and asked @antonpa about it.
For me, that was more or less the end of the story.
But then this unbalanced @jenkki came and started vigorously defending the host's false advertising and selling services in locations they don't have. That's when all the mess started. It didn't help also that @antonpa lied about the location in further comments.
We are where we are solely because people are lying and defending the shady practices of a certain host.
@antonpa could easily say something like, "Our new location in Vienna isn't ready yet, so we gave you a VPS in Germany until Vienna is ready, and forgot to inform you about it," or something similar. But no, instead of that, he still claims that the server is hosted in Austria while it's clearly in Germany.
That's one of the reasons why I suspect @jenkki is an unofficial employee or user rating influencer from justhost.ru.
You might think this counter-intuitive but image you're in a company where colleagues frame each other to earn a little more, the upper boss either PUAs or gaslights the employees without paying them more, most employees are pushed to work overtime without legal compensation, at the same time, the state is being sanctioned thus economically deteriorates day by day, so job hopping is almost impossible.
How would you treat your job and the exploiting company?
I would treat my customers rudely, badly, hoping that they never buy anything from the company, because the company owes me money, time, and my energy, if that can't be paid legally, I would do harm to stake holders nastily but legally.
It seems the employees are not far from us.
If you don't jump on that ark the second one may not come.
Yes, you expressed cleanly and clearly and I understood that (inconsistency of physical locations and virtual IP locations) from your first comments in this thread.
I guess every mentally normal person with basic VPS knowledge grasps what you mean, unless they pretend sleeping.
So you have done most of what you can about the problem (1. stating the problem clearly; 2. trying to communicate with entities concerned politely; 3. report the results of communication to help or remind anyone in the future).
Maybe it's time to move on, at least until justhost.ru 's next offer.