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Finding Bulletproof Webhosting & Domain Registrartion

dhmodhmo Member

Domain Registration Req:
For this, I am thinking maybe Cloudflare Domains will do good job?
cuz My purpose is legitimate, just wanna use trusted and the registar happy to keep me anonymous.
(I wanna reduce a risk)

Budget is $20 per year.

WebHosting Req:
Under $1/m or $5/y
- Any Panel OK
- 100 MB or Higher Storage (cuz only single website)
- PHP 8.x allowed
- No KYC
- Paypal Supported
- BULLETPROOF (Happy to keep me anonymous to host)
If supported .onion domain, I'll be very happy :]

Any idea? let me know.

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  • tjntjn Member
    edited June 2024

    If you can raise your budget, Incognet @MannDude might be what you're looking for - they do both hosting and registrations.

    Thanked by 3dhmo 10thHouse wamy
  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    Highly recommend not running your domain and web hosting at the same company. And CloudFlare definitely won't keep you anonymous if there's any actual legal concern.

    Thanked by 110thHouse
  • dhmodhmo Member

    @MikeA said:
    Highly recommend not running your domain and web hosting at the same company. And CloudFlare definitely won't keep you anonymous if there's any actual legal concern.

    I just don't wanna use the company that very friendly to law enforcement... xd

  • dhmodhmo Member

    @tjn said:
    If you can raise your budget, Incognet @MannDude might be what you're looking for - they do both hosting and registrations.

    Yeah, but its too over my budget.
    Maybe I am going to use anonymous domain registrar and Cloudflare Tunnel + Home Virtual Server to publish website.

    What do you think?

  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    @dhmo said:

    @tjn said:
    If you can raise your budget, Incognet @MannDude might be what you're looking for - they do both hosting and registrations.

    Yeah, but its too over my budget.
    Maybe I am going to use anonymous domain registrar and Cloudflare Tunnel + Home Virtual Server to publish website.

    What do you think?

    CF will forward abuse complaints to your ISP and your contract will be cancelled. Don't tunnel to home.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    @dhmo said:

    @MikeA said:
    Highly recommend not running your domain and web hosting at the same company. And CloudFlare definitely won't keep you anonymous if there's any actual legal concern.

    I just don't wanna use the company that very friendly to law enforcement... xd

    Every company has to follow legitimate legal requests within their jurisdiction. So if you're concerned about being in legal trouble you just need to look for a service in a country with very poor law enforcement or governments. :#

    Plus any company that caters to anonymity or being "bulletproof" (which now days is basically marketing BS) is going to be over your budget anyway. Catering to this crowd isn't cheap.

  • syldrasyldra Member
    edited June 2024

    All registrars seem to apply domain privacy services to all customer domains whether they ask for it or not these days. NameSilo seems to not even store your name and simply gives your account the default name of "Domain Administrator", though they do save your address, but you could probably use a PO box or something else that won't identify you easily.

    Unless you have concerns about them leaking your personal/payment details via other channels, like people pretending to be law enforcement or a court, or a data breach like what happened with ovh, any mainstream registrar with policies that you like is probably good.

    Do not use a domain-by-proxy reseller service if you value the uptime and ownership of your domain, if there is any chance at all you think that your domain could be suspended. All support with the registrar they resell for is forced to go through the reseller, and it will dramatically drag out the process, probably incur ire and extra fees, and the reseller basically has you by the balls because you have no legal recourse to get the domain name back from them if they decide to stop wanting to deal with you.

    Using a real domain registrar, you have ICANN protections against companies seizing your domains illegitimately, and legal options to press them if they try.

    Thanked by 1dhmo
  • tenjitenji Member

    Don't put your domain reg on cloudflare. If cloudflare block you, you can just point it to other (temporary) provider.

    Thanked by 1dhmo
  • If you want shared hosting, probably @NameCrane - https://namecrane.com/store/da-shared-hosting

    I don't know if they have KYC.

  • dhmodhmo Member

    @siemens said:
    If you want shared hosting, probably @NameCrane - https://namecrane.com/store/da-shared-hosting

    I don't know if they have KYC.

    They have manual check to make sure I am real person
    but as i remember no KYC (submit ID .e.g)

  • edited June 2024

    @dhmo said:
    - BULLETPROOF

    You are about 15 years late to the party. There used to be a time when actual bulletproof services were openly available but it's long gone. You can get some abuse resistance but you simply won't find a keep-online-no-matter-what offer (which is what bulletproof means).

    Budget is $20 per year.

    Especially not with this budget. Risking legal trouble for $20/y is simply not worth it. If you want someone to shield you from (law-)enforcement you'll need to invest a lot more (assuming you find a legit offer, which is not going to randomly happen in 2024).

    (Happy to keep me anonymous to host)

    If you want to be anonymous you should pay in crypto (obviously making sure it doesn't trace back to you - Monero etc), go for some abuse resistant host, cover your (IP) tracks and if personal info is needed use fake data. That's the best you'll get with a tiny budget and even there $20/y might be somewhat problematically low.

    Thanked by 1dhmo
  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    @dhmo said:

    @siemens said:
    If you want shared hosting, probably @NameCrane - https://namecrane.com/store/da-shared-hosting

    I don't know if they have KYC.

    They have manual check to make sure I am real person
    but as i remember no KYC (submit ID .e.g)

    pay with crypto at Frantech to bypass all checks.

    Shared hosting - 8$ p/y
    Domain(at @MannDude) - 15$(approx)

    Thanked by 2mw dhmo
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited June 2024

    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep
  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited June 2024

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech, or just grift to sell commodities? How is your Washington lawsuit going? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller playing up a character.

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • 10thHouse10thHouse Member
    edited June 2024

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    The difference is you're a kid who just joined and I've been around here. Not a single person you named is trustworthy, but I'll give credit to @alexhost for fundamentally being able to back up what they advertised.

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Thanked by 310thHouse sillycat wamy
  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited June 2024

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Here is your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead being of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

  • @SirFoxy said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    The difference is you're a kid who just joined and I've been around here. Not a single person you named is trustworthy, but I'll give credit to @alexhost for fundamentally being able to back up what they advertised.

    If all you can do is resort to an appeal to seniority, failing to provide any evidence for your initial claims about @MannDude, or your claim that "not a single person [I] named is trustworthy" (I have bought from all 3, all solid services and friendly people, by the way), it doesn't matter how young or old I am; nothing _you've _said holds any water.

    It really does seem like you came on this comment thread to attack a provider who's been with us longer than you have (since that seems to be something you care a lot about!) over a simple disagreement in how to approach running a business.

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited June 2024

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    Thanked by 310thHouse sillycat wamy
  • @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

  • @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

    Is there something ethically wrong with being a reseller? His sale point isn't owning all of his hardware; it's providing privacy- and free speech- respecting internet services, and based on my own experiences, that's exactly what he does.

    And you know, I don't have the full story, but taking what you linked at face value, I don't see how it's @MannDude's fault that his upstream bailed on him.

    It's really quite funny that you keep lashing out, getting your points knocked off their legs, and then replying with "you're such a grifter lmao" right after having called someone else a "kid who just joined."

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

    How does that prove anything?

    And what I said then still holds true. Our upstream there turned out to be incredibly disappointing to the point where I DID considering pulling the plug. I had drafted up a 60 day notice to clients and everything. Those immediate issues have since been fixed and we're still moving to our own space within KC, especially now that Terrahost has left the market.

    We still own the hardware. It's still ours. Probably what will happen is I or someone else physically goes there and moves equipment from the current rack it is in, which belongs to another provider that we're leasing the rackspace from, and then move it to our own rack space.

    Ignoring the issues we've had with them, this setup is pretty common. A larger provider has rackspace in an established datacenter with excess transit and capacity and can offer it to end-users at a rate that is more favorable than going direct. It's literally what a ton of businesses on LET do.

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  • @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

    Is there something ethically wrong with being a reseller? His sale point isn't owning all of his hardware; it's providing privacy- and free speech- respecting internet services, and based on my own experiences, that's exactly what he does.

    And you know, I don't have the full story, but taking what you linked at face value, I don't see how it's @MannDude's fault that his upstream bailed on him.

    It's really quite funny that you keep lashing out, getting your points knocked off their legs, and then replying with "you're such a grifter lmao" right after having called someone else a "kid who just joined."

    How mad are you?

  • @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

    How does that prove anything?

    And what I said then still holds true. Our upstream there turned out to be incredibly disappointing to the point where I DID considering pulling the plug. I had drafted up a 60 day notice to clients and everything. Those immediate issues have since been fixed and we're still moving to our own space within KC, especially now that Terrahost has left the market.

    We still own the hardware. It's still ours. Probably what will happen is I or someone else physically goes there and moves equipment from the current rack it is in, which belongs to another provider that we're leasing the rackspace from, and then move it to our own rack space.

    Ignoring the issues we've had with them, this setup is pretty common. A larger provider has rackspace in an established datacenter with excess transit and capacity and can offer it to end-users at a rate that is more favorable than going direct. It's literally what a ton of businesses on LET do.

    TLDR: I am a reseller and did not follow through on the freedom of speech lawsuit threats against the state of Washington that I advertised. I definitely support your cause and not just the money, though.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

    How does that prove anything?

    And what I said then still holds true. Our upstream there turned out to be incredibly disappointing to the point where I DID considering pulling the plug. I had drafted up a 60 day notice to clients and everything. Those immediate issues have since been fixed and we're still moving to our own space within KC, especially now that Terrahost has left the market.

    We still own the hardware. It's still ours. Probably what will happen is I or someone else physically goes there and moves equipment from the current rack it is in, which belongs to another provider that we're leasing the rackspace from, and then move it to our own rack space.

    Ignoring the issues we've had with them, this setup is pretty common. A larger provider has rackspace in an established datacenter with excess transit and capacity and can offer it to end-users at a rate that is more favorable than going direct. It's literally what a ton of businesses on LET do.

    TLDR: I am a reseller and did not follow through on the freedom of speech lawsuit threats against the state of Washington that I advertised. I definitely support your cause and not just the money, though.

    Filing a complaint with the Attorney General is not the same as fling a lawsuit.

    Feel free to write an article on LowEndBox about it after you've done more than two seconds of research.

    ...oh, wait.

  • @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

    How does that prove anything?

    And what I said then still holds true. Our upstream there turned out to be incredibly disappointing to the point where I DID considering pulling the plug. I had drafted up a 60 day notice to clients and everything. Those immediate issues have since been fixed and we're still moving to our own space within KC, especially now that Terrahost has left the market.

    We still own the hardware. It's still ours. Probably what will happen is I or someone else physically goes there and moves equipment from the current rack it is in, which belongs to another provider that we're leasing the rackspace from, and then move it to our own rack space.

    Ignoring the issues we've had with them, this setup is pretty common. A larger provider has rackspace in an established datacenter with excess transit and capacity and can offer it to end-users at a rate that is more favorable than going direct. It's literally what a ton of businesses on LET do.

    TLDR: I am a reseller and did not follow through on the freedom of speech lawsuit threats against the state of Washington that I advertised. I definitely support your cause and not just the money, though.

    Filing a complaint with the Attorney General is not the same as fling a lawsuit.

    Feel free to write an article on LowEndBox about it after you've done more than two seconds of research.

    ...oh, wait.

    Writing for LEB is tiring because it's "too toxic" but slandering random providers with 0 evidence is perfectly adult behavior, it seems. Not at all like "a kid who just showed up"!

  • @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

    How does that prove anything?

    And what I said then still holds true. Our upstream there turned out to be incredibly disappointing to the point where I DID considering pulling the plug. I had drafted up a 60 day notice to clients and everything. Those immediate issues have since been fixed and we're still moving to our own space within KC, especially now that Terrahost has left the market.

    We still own the hardware. It's still ours. Probably what will happen is I or someone else physically goes there and moves equipment from the current rack it is in, which belongs to another provider that we're leasing the rackspace from, and then move it to our own rack space.

    Ignoring the issues we've had with them, this setup is pretty common. A larger provider has rackspace in an established datacenter with excess transit and capacity and can offer it to end-users at a rate that is more favorable than going direct. It's literally what a ton of businesses on LET do.

    TLDR: I am a reseller and did not follow through on the freedom of speech lawsuit threats against the state of Washington that I advertised. I definitely support your cause and not just the money, though.

    Filing a complaint with the Attorney General is not the same as fling a lawsuit.

    Feel free to write an article on LowEndBox about it after you've done more than two seconds of research.

    ...oh, wait.

    💗 look, I get it, you quit your job and need a grift to appeal to the kids. Best of luck!

  • @MikeA said: And CloudFlare definitely won't keep you anonymous if there's any actual legal concern.

    But there would be also nothing valuable for them to give to law enforcement if you don't give Cloudflare anything in the first place.

    @MikeA said: Every company has to follow legitimate legal requests within their jurisdiction.

    Bulletproof doesen't exactly mean that. In my opinion, a hoster that gives you a notice that law enforcement has come over and delays shit with them so that you can move out is "bulletproof", everything else is just children with UK LTDs and Neterra IPs.

    @syldra said: All registrars seem to apply domain privacy services to all customer domains whether they ask for it or not these days. NameSilo seems to not even store your name and simply gives your account the default name of "Domain Administrator", though they do save your address, but you could probably use a PO box or something else that won't identify you easily.

    This is literally the worse advise ever. Namesilo plainly sucks, and not only that, giving them a PO box would lead them straight to your house since you need to provide ID for a PO box. A god damn PO box would identify you more than your home address.

    @totally_not_banned said: You can get some abuse resistance but you simply won't find a keep-online-no-matter-what offer (which is what bulletproof means).

    Kinda. Nicenic will ignore everything if you have enough balance (from experience). > @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:

    @10thHouse said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @MannDude said:
    No legitimate business is advertising as bulletproof. That sort of hosting is for the worst people on the internet. CP, botnets, spam, etc. If that's what you want, look for some no name business registered in Seychelles that only accepts Monero and has servers in some damp eastern European warehouse or basement or something.

    If you just want privacy, no one does it better than us. We still have a strict TOS we enforce though because we're a privacy host that supports free speech, not a privacy host that allows you to do whatever you want.

    We require no KYC. Just an email address. Order from Tor, VPN, or whatever. Just follow the TOS and you're fine.

    Do you support free speech or grift to sell commodities? Last I checked you're a reseller of a reseller. How is your Washington lawsuit going?

    I really don't get the vitriol toward @MannDude. I use his services for my main website with no problems. Most customers of his are normal, legitimate users, not the strawmen used to erode online privacy and security.

    And for anyone new to the party, IncogNET is the real deal. I recommend them before any other privacy-focused provider, granted that your goal is not to evade DMCA (that's why we have @Calin , @alexhost, and @AvaHosting ;) )

    I think its stemmed from our support of awful but lawful speech.

    Not sure what lawsuit or reselling a reseller comment is about, but I try not to understand the delusions of others.

    Your attempt at actually being competent at anything instead of a reseller:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/188074/win-a-10gbps-blade-server-in-kansas-city-with-cosmicguard-ddos-protection-plus-pre-order-special#latest

    LOL - I thought you were calling us a 'reseller' because we lease hardware from @crunchbits in two US locations, hardware that isn't their normal stock and typically custom built configs for IncogNET specifically. Same with Worldstream, our servers are not publicly available and instead built for us and deployed on our network.

    But instead you call us a reseller because of the one location where we... actually own all of our hardware?

    I mean, you're right. We don't own the transit lines, the datacenter building, the generators outside, we don't pay the security staff and it's not our problem if a toilet gets clogged in the staff restroom in Kansas City.

    You're such a grifter lmao, is there anything authentic within you, or are you constantly playing a character for money?

    Your one experience trying to do anything on your own was an absolute failure.

    @MannDude said:

    @mrclown said:
    @MannDude DMed you regarding this server as I received so many notifications email suddenly after 3-4 months. I hope you are still around.

    Of course. I just rarely check my DMs.

    We'll likely be discontinuing this location or moving hardware elsewhere. Our direct upstream (NOT Nocix) has been basically MIA and after many months of trying to get stuff fixed and our network production ready they're just ghosting us despite still posting on LET.

    Sorry.

    How does that prove anything?

    And what I said then still holds true. Our upstream there turned out to be incredibly disappointing to the point where I DID considering pulling the plug. I had drafted up a 60 day notice to clients and everything. Those immediate issues have since been fixed and we're still moving to our own space within KC, especially now that Terrahost has left the market.

    We still own the hardware. It's still ours. Probably what will happen is I or someone else physically goes there and moves equipment from the current rack it is in, which belongs to another provider that we're leasing the rackspace from, and then move it to our own rack space.

    Ignoring the issues we've had with them, this setup is pretty common. A larger provider has rackspace in an established datacenter with excess transit and capacity and can offer it to end-users at a rate that is more favorable than going direct. It's literally what a ton of businesses on LET do.

    TLDR: I am a reseller and did not follow through on the freedom of speech lawsuit threats against the state of Washington that I advertised. I definitely support your cause and not just the money, though.

    Filing a complaint with the Attorney General is not the same as fling a lawsuit.

    Feel free to write an article on LowEndBox about it after you've done more than two seconds of research.

    ...oh, wait.

    💗 look, I get it, you quit your job and need a grift to appeal to the kids. Best of luck!

    Go back to your Queer BLM Discord. No one wants you here.

    Thanked by 210thHouse wamy
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